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Re: Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald

I wonder if it's to show the effect that making him into so many horocruxes has done? Meaning his appearance changing so much.


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I definitely count myself among those who have lost trust in her. After her defense of Depp, I returned my Cursed Child for a full refund and never looked back. I won't be seeing the FB movies either, not that anyone (and least of all Rowling) cares. I wasn't excited about FB to being with, I didn't see the appeal other than nostalgia. But after she showed her true colors in these #metoo times and after the director's ridiculous statements about how more women would have come forward had the accusations been true, I was fed up.
Yeah. I was sorely disappointed, too.

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So yeah, that casting was the last straw and when the interview about Dumbledore came out I honestly just laughed. Like what did the fans expect really? It's weird that some fans keep coming up with lame excuses like "well DD's sexuality isn't relevant to the plot". Are. you. kidding. me? The infatuation for Grindelwald is a huge part of why Dumbledore acted the way he did during his youth and why he didn't confront the man sooner. This isn't about LGBT representation, it's about not leaving out such an essential piece of information.
I know, it's a such a bitter contrast from her answering a fan question about his love life and saying he was gay - at a time before marriage equality and in the face of a sizable backlash - if you remember, even on CoS homosexuality was a banned topic because it was considered not family friendly then. And now this. It hurts when your idols let you down (JKR used to be progressive, I remember her article on taxes and social services, among other things), that's why it's best not to have any. I think the issue with Dumbledore not being explicitly gay was about money - they'd lose conservative parents in the US and possibly other parts of the world if they had a gay theme in a kids'movie. Which makes it even worse because anyone who concedes their principles for money didn't really have any in the first place, especially if they're already rich.



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Re: Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald

People have probably already seen this, but it seems that things have changed in the Dumbledore/Grindelwald department.

David Yates: "In that earlier interview, I didn't say Dumbledore's not gay. He is. This part of this huge narrative that Jo is creating doesn't focus on his sexuality, but we're not airbrushing or hiding it. The story [of this romantic relationship] isn't there in this particular movie, but it's clear in what you see... that he is gay. A couple of scenes we shot are very sensual moments of him and young Grindelwald."

And they've brought back the two actors who played young Dumbledore and young Grindelwald in Deathly Hallows, too.

Go check out the 3rd trailer when you get the chance. Lots of Dumbledore seeing current-day Grindelwald and seeing his younger self with young Grindelwald in there.

We have to remember not to trust anything they say. JK Rowling also said that we "shouldn't be expecting to see any characters we already know" before the first Fantastic Beasts film came out.


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I wonder if it's to show the effect that making him into so many horocruxes has done? Meaning his appearance changing so much.
That would be a no, since this is Grindelwald, not Voldemort. FYI, they do mention the reason in the Crimes movie.


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So what are everyone's thoughts? Proceed with spoiler tags outside of the general. Overall, I will say that I enjoyed it as a film and as a story set in the Wizarding World. BUT....

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There are so many questions raised, seeming inconsistencies with what's been written in the original 7 books and Pottermore, and what to me felt like forced name dropping that I couldn't quite buy into the film as an extension of Wizarding World canon. And, thus, I have a hard time really enjoying it. I'll expand with more soon.

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That would be a no, since this is Grindelwald, not Voldemort. FYI, they do mention the reason in the Crimes movie.
I must have missed this. Where/when did it say anything about his appearance?


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Would love to find an in depth discussion of FB under spoiler alerts. Can anyone direct me?


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Re: Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald

MrSleepyHead - I look forward to your thoughts, I'm still processing the details and will probably have to see it again. In reply to your question:

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I must have missed this. Where/when did it say anything about his appearance?
It was during the hand-off of Grindelwald at the U.S. Ministry before taking him out of his cell. The British rep makes a comment about his looking so bad, and the U.S. rep said that they "threw everything they had at him, we had to he was so powerful".


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