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Yes, he should have chosen Dumbledore as Secret Keeper. |
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40 | 12.27% |
Partly. He and Lily should not have agreed to switch to Peter. |
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26 | 7.98% |
No, he could not have anticipated such a betrayal. Hindsight is twenty-twenty. |
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110 | 33.74% |
No, he trusted his friends, something that paid off for Harry in DH, despite Remus' warning. |
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89 | 27.30% |
The only one to blame is Voldemort. |
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44 | 13.50% |
Oh dear, I never like Moriath's options. |
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8 | 2.45% |
Something else entirely that hopefully doesn't include Snape. |
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9 | 2.76% |
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McGonagall expresses her opinion of James exactly once that I can recall, in PoA.
This is not modified with any physical description; if said neutrally, I would not consider this to be the expression of a particularly high opinion of his character.
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![]() About that monument to James, Lily, and also Harry who didn't die, but who was included in the statue because they died protecting him as martyrs. It's like an almost religious shrine for people to visit in a small town, and considering the state of the front yard at Godric's Hollow with the nettles and weeds growing there, not many people are visiting it anymore. Maybe that's JKR making a statement on fleeting fame again, or maybe it's to help us realize how many other people besides the Potters died in VoldieWar One who were not around to visit, but I don't see the monument as proof of goodness or anything else, imo. I think we have to look at it in light of the statues at the MOM, which are beautiful but are not the truth, anymore than the Mirror of Erised is the truth. James and Lily didn't really have halos white as snow, and it seemed to me that Harry felt closer to them at their graves than in front of the statue. I think JKR wanted to show that time marches on and Harry and his children were the actual living monument to the Potters. JMO
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I just reread the prequel and James and Sirius don't leave the policemen unconcious. The impression I got from the story was that Jo was having a bit of fun and I don't think she meant it to be taken so serious. Just my opinion on that of course. If we agree to disagree on the truth of the monument to James, Lily and Harry that's fine as well. I tend to think that if people go to the trouble of erecting a memorial when they don't have to there must have been something worthwhile about the people they erect it to. Perhaps the WW in general don't think that acting like a berk in school and having high spirits and a happy and generous disposion in general is such a bad thing. And Snape, who seems to have been the only enemy James made in school, probably wasn't consulted. |
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I guess if they're underage it would make it easier for the MoM to trace the use of Magic in front of Muggles. There seems to be some confusion (Plot holes, inconsistencies, and contradictions thread) about how some cases of wizards using magic in front of Muggles is found out by the MoM.
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Actually, aside from the passage in Godric's Hollow where James screams at Lily to take the baby and run, this is the only incident I've read where James does not remind me much of the the hardcore Severus-tormening Marauder. This little prank actually reminded me more of the Weasley twins - particularly in the way that James and Sirius played off each other. The dialog just sounded so very like Fred and George. Did anybody else hear Weasley echoes in that dialog? Or am I "hearing" things? ![]() Note: not trying to derail into a Weasley thread... but placing in context of other pranksters.
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An example of James Potter's victimhood whilst at Hogwarts, if you please.
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Both Sirius and Lupin tell Harry about how Snape was constantly following them around and spying on them before the Shack incident. That was the main reason that Sirius told him how to get into the tunnel. Sirius thought (wrongly IMO) that someone should tell Severus what he was so desperate to find out. Then when Lily and James start going out he is constantly hexes James. That is how it is put in canon and it is never contradicted so it must stand that Snape does this. Even if James is strong mentally, such contant harassment from the same source does fall underneath the aegis of bullying. SWM is a horrendous example of bullying on James and Sirius' part. It doesn't excuse Snape's later behaviour. The fact that James', apart from basic defense tolerates this behaviour and doesn't tell Lily reflects well on him. IMO. Snape at this time is just a petty harrassment to James, but constantly being on the lookout for the harrassment must have been wearing.
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I found their great dislike of being spied on or tracked very ironic, in some respects. They invented the Marauder's Map in which they could track and spy on every resident of Hogwarts. Also, enabling them to monitor or play 'pranks' on with the added security of James's invisibility cloak. This isn't unusual, we do see various young characters (actually even the adults) do things to others, but take exception and criticize when done to themselves or people they like. I feel, this is a great aspect of JKR's work, she shows amazing greyness to her character's actions and situations. James Potter in no exception here, despite the fact he barely appears in the series compared to more prominent characters.
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