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Old May 14th, 2009, 11:13 am
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Re: Will the movies endure the test of time, or be forgotten once the books finish?

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I think the title of this thread is two questions, not one.

1. Will the films be forgotten once the books have finished?


The books have already finished, and the films are still creating a lot of interest. I should imagine that the success of the end of the franchise is pretty secure. Steve Kloves has publicly spoken of his doubts, but it's been a while since he's demonstrated that he understands Harry Potter fans, in my opinion.

Not only will they not be forgotten in the short term, I'd have thought that with the end of the books, a lot of the audience would have been even more keen on the films, as they're the last bit of 'new' Potter to look forward to. I think by putting the film back, WB typically failed to take advantage of that, but HBP, and probably DH will surely still be a great success.

2. Will the movies endure the test of time?

This is where I have to answer 'no'. I'm afraid these films, while not totally bad, certainly aren't classics in the way the books will probably be remembered. What's so great about them is purely JKR's imagination, there's nothing that makes them memorable in their own right, nothing special coming from the filmmakers themselves. These films are NOT like the Wizard of Oz, or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, well loved many decades later.

I remember telling my mother they were planning to remake 'My Fair Lady' and she almost had a seizure. I sincerely doubt that even rabid HP fans will be furious if these films are re-made in 20 years. The casual fans certainly won't be. Are people really going to be typing away on forums saying that "no-one can match Radcliffe's Potter", or "no-one can re-interpret JKR's world like Kloves"? I personally don't think so, though others may disagree.

Once the younger, more determined fans of the young actors are middle aged, will they really think that the current performances can't be surpassed? Or the scripts? Or the costumes?

The longevity of these films is solely dependent on no-one re-making them to a better standard, which I don't think will be difficult.
This is an excellent post, and I completely agree.

While I enjoy the movies, it's mostly because I love the books. While watching a movie there are so many things that annoy me, but in the end I leave the theatre feeling satisfied, more often than not because, as my friend once put it, "Its a Harry Potter movie.......... you can't hate Harry Potter!"

I am going to watch the coming three movies, and I have been following all the rumours, interviews, advertising with a lot of interest. But in the future if someone does decide to remake the movies, I will be nothing but happy. In my opinion, the movies had a LOT more potential to be truly fantastic.
I'm not belittling the current series at all, I think all of the directors/actors/crew have done a really commendable job, but if someone chooses to re-do the movies, they will have not only the benefit of a completed series (which apart from Yates, nobody has had), but also an entire set of movies to analyse and make better on.


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I highly doubt that they will be forgotten! I love them so much and I am definitely going to keep reading the books and watching the movies, and once I have children, their world is going to be so full of Harry Potter they aren't going to be able to see straight! And once my children have children, they are going to get thwarted by me


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I know that now HP is making box office records, but I doubt it will last when the 7th movie premires. Why? Because all the books will be gone. I only watch the movies to fill in the time between the books, and I bet thousands agree with me. The movies before book 7 will be great, but many (me very likely included) would think: "Huh, what's the point?"
So I think that filmakers will aknoledge this, and will try to cram in movies 5 and 6 before book 7 appears. Then the whole movies will disintagrate.

I wouldn't say the movies are making box office records, yea they are making good money but nothing mind blowing, only 1 movie has made over $300 million in the US. But I'm sure many people will still see 7 despite all the books being done. I wouldn't doubt it if DH part 2 makes the most money out of all the movies.


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the movies will last. It's hard to think people will stop watching the movies.


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the movies will last. It's hard to think people will stop watching the movies.
Of course the movies will last. Good heavens, people are still watching 60 year old movies!! 60 plus even!


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Old January 20th, 2011, 10:21 am
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I don't think these movies will still be popular 60 years from now. I'm sure they will still be around, but their overall popularity is more a part of the larger Harry Potter franchise. They are good adaptations, but not excellent stand-alone films.


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Re: Will the movies endure the test of time, or be forgotten once the books finish?

In the Harry Potter community the books as well as the movies will continue to be popular no matter what. I think that if you are a fan, you will most likely cherish the series both through the books and the movies.


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In the Harry Potter community the books as well as the movies will continue to be popular no matter what. I think that if you are a fan, you will most likely cherish the series both through the books and the movies.
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I think the movies will live on. As someone mentioned, the seventh book have been out for almost four years, and the film is still having a lot of expectation. At the moment i think many of us look more foreward to the film because there is no more books to look foreward to.

The movies are great. They might not be classic, but i think later generations will enjoy them as much as we are now


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Re: Will the movies endure the test of time, or be forgotten once the books finish?

The films will always be inextricably linked to the books, and that's clearly a strength. For the most part, the films are high-level cinematic entertainment and the series as a whole is an undeniable achievement.

Unfortunately, the only film of the 7 that gets mentioned as a standalone film of merit is POA. Over time, I think the reverence for POA (and potentially DH2, if they nail it) will grow; the anticipation regarding the central plot and the actual construction of the films detracts from really stepping back and re-examining things. We'll start to see in the next few years - especially in POA's case, being a film that doesn't even feature the principal villain of the entire series.

Ultimately, as many of you have said, the films are part of a series and that lessens the individual impact of each one when you appraise them. But people love movies and visual entertainment, so they'll always retain more mainstream accessibility and popularity than their book counterparts.


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Re: Will the movies endure the test of time, or be forgotten once the books finish?

The movies probably will not be forgotten until the books themselves are, and as I cannot see that happening any time soon (or not soon, for that matter) I think the movies are pretty safe, too.

Also, dare I say ... remakes?


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Re: Will the movies endure the test of time, or be forgotten once the books finish?

What is mildly ironic about this thread is that this thread was started by someone who hasn't posted here in over 5 years, when he was 13! It seems like perhaps neither books nor films stood the test of time for that poster.

Make of that what you will....


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Re: Will the movies endure the test of time, or be forgotten once the books finish?

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What is mildly ironic about this thread is that this thread was started by someone who hasn't posted here in over 5 years, when he was 13! It seems like perhaps neither books nor films stood the test of time for that poster.

Make of that what you will....
Maybe that just means this website won't hold appeal in years to come. :P

I keep thinking of how this compares to the Chronicles of Narnia. These are also timeless classics with a large fan base and widespread appeal. Yet in the last 30-some years, there have been 3 different movie adaptations.

I still remember being captivated by the animated version of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe that was made in the early 70's (I'm dating myself here). But the animation style dates itself and it's hard to find that movie anymore. My personal favorite version is BBC version made in the early 80's, they went through the first 3 books almost word-for-word faithful to the source material. But they were low budget with poor special effects, and now the series is being remade again.

The Harry Potter movies are not instant classics in themselves. They may eventually be redone as well, when someone comes along who decides to reintroduce the story to a new generation by "updating" it and telling the story a different way.



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I keep thinking of how this compares to the Chronicles of Narnia. These are also timeless classics with a large fan base and widespread appeal. Yet in the last 30-some years, there have been 3 different movie adaptations.
I am not sure that this comparison is that sound. The Narnia series actually is much like the Oz series: everybody is aware of the first story, but most people are unaware that there is a larger series. Indeed, the animated version of Lion (much like the movie for Wizard) probably is why many if not most people are aware of Lion! (The Beeb made a good series of the whole series, but that is not all that well-known.)

In contrast, Harry Potter is best known as a series: it is not as if everybody knows Stone and then is dimly aware that Chamber through Hallows exists. Even people who see the films are not entirely cognizant of the particular story that they are seeing: just like watching James Bond, you are seeing Harry Potter, not Half-Blood Prince or Casino Royale.
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They may eventually be redone as well, when someone comes along who decides to reintroduce the story to a new generation by "updating" it and telling the story a different way.
There is another thread devoted to this topic, but given that Rowling and WB are not likely to sell the rights for a remake, this probably will not happen in the lifetimes of those of us old enough to remember that great animated Lion so well!


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I would hope the movies endure the test of time. Like someone already said, I think the books will become classics or at least be very popular books for years to come, and I think people will tie the books to the films and they will still be popular too. Its like Gone With the Wind, some people want to read the book, then watch the movie. I know I will read the Harry Potter books to my kids when I have them and probably watch the movies too. I think as long as there are still fans, people will still love the movies and the books.


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