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Old July 28th, 2003, 7:58 pm
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Do the movies ruin the books?

Has anyone felt like they liked the HP movies, but they also don't like them? I like how you get to see how they portray Hogwarts, and the characters, etc but sometimes I wish they would just let it be a book and that's it. This is one of the only books that gets kids read, and they had to make it into a movie. Don't get wrong, I think the movies are done very well I definitely enjoy watching them, but for once I wish they'd let a good book just stay a book. I know I am completely contradicting myself, but I feel both ways about it. It's hard to explain. Does anyone understand what I mean or feel the same way?

Also, I hate when people only watch the movie and base their judgments about Harry Potter on them. You can't get the full grasp on HP until you read the books. And this might sound stupid, but does anyone get mad when you know someone who reads Harry Potter, but has the ability to wait to read the next book in the series. I was dying for the 5th book to come out and as soon as I got it that day, I was reading it. But my cousin on the other hand, says she has to finish her summer reading book before starting the 5th book, which she still doesn't have yet, but is still a HP fan. I know this sounds childish, but I just can't imagine reading Harry Potter, and then patiently waiting to read the next one in the series. Anyone know what I mean?

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Old July 28th, 2003, 8:06 pm
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Well, I for one am GLAD they made it into a movie. As an adult HP fan, a few years ago I didn't even know who Harry Potter was. I was working retail when the GOF came out. I remember all these crazy people coming in to buy the book. I didn't under stand what in the world was going on. Then the movie came out. Never went to see it, and didn't buy it. My mom however did, and one day I decided to borrow her copy. I watched it a time or two. Then took it home again and let me daughter watch it. We both really got into it more and more. I finally got my own copy of the movie, and when COS came out, went to see it in the theater. After that I was mega hooked. I got the 4 book set for my BDay this past March and naturally I was one of the few people dressed up at the bookstore waiting from 8o'clock pm counting down the minutes till book 5 was released. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the movies got alot of people into Harry Potter, that probably wouldn't have. I know 3 people related to me (all adults) that have gotten the books and read them all just because they really liked the movies. And I really think they do a GREAT job with them too!


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Old July 28th, 2003, 8:13 pm
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I love the movies. If it weren't for the movies i'd have never picked up the books to be honest.


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Old July 28th, 2003, 8:23 pm
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i like u do like the movies n sum times wish they werent made but then i think ive already read the books and no matter how many times i see the movies i still got the images in my head of wat i think characters look like. n if u dotn wanan see movies lol dont watch em. but i do wish they could make movies then went exactly like the book but then they would be 20 hours or so long but i wouold still watch them to be honest


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Old July 28th, 2003, 8:29 pm
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I can sympathize. I also like the movies, though I definitely prefer the books over them. But certain things in the movies might irk me even though they're pretty decent book-to-movie adaptations.

And sometimes I get a little upset by the commercialization of it all. Some of the toys and products are neat, but some of them are just...silly. Kids' books should leave a little to the imagination. And while the movies have caused some people to become fans (I was one prior to the movies), other people DO make fun of Harry Potter based on the movies. And they think that because of the commercialization, the series isn't really any good. What they don't remember is that a lot of hype surrounded the release of book 4 and the fanbase was huge, even before the movies started coming out. It's a shame.


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Old July 28th, 2003, 9:50 pm
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I used to bellyache about the movies all the time. Now I realise that I was just being a twit. Nothing could ruin the books. So what if some little eight year olds go around in 'WB' emblazoned robes and buy rubbish toys and go 'Yeah! Harry Potter! I love those films!'. So what if shoddy magazines refer to Harry Potter as a film character? It doesn't matter. I still like the books, still respect them as a series of fiction. So do many other people. With regards to the books, those people are the only ones that matter. Oh, and J. K. Rowling of course.

Now all I complain about is that awful screenwriter. The films would be fine in themselves if it wasn't for him. But never mind that...


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Old July 28th, 2003, 10:34 pm
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I am not a big fan of the movies because characters are left out, parts skipped, and I don't like who they got to play half the characters...
I am not planning on watching PoA because I like the version that is in my head.


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Old July 28th, 2003, 10:46 pm
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Before I saw the first movie, I was really worried. I thought that when I read the books after seeing the movies I'd only be able to picture everything (i.e. the characters, the castle, etc.) the way that it was in the film. As it turns out, I still see it the way I want too. As they don't change the way I see the books I think they're great. Nowhere near the books, but still good fun.


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Old July 28th, 2003, 10:51 pm
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I don't like it when people refuse to read the books and then complain that HP isn't any good when they see the films.
But it's their loss. It doesn't affect my personal enjoyment of the books if people see the movies or not.


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Old July 28th, 2003, 11:55 pm
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The 1st movie was what actually got me interested in getting the books. I didnt see the 1st movie in the theaters. I thought in my head that if you like the LOTR films you couldnt like the HP films, it had to be one or the other. When SS/PS came out on Dvd i watched it over and over again and got hooked. I did go see CoS in the theaters and purchased the DVD. After that i bought books 2-4 and feel in love. The books are much better than the movies but I love the actors portraying the characters that you have to like the movies even though so much is left out. I still haven't read the 1st one and I'm finding out that there is so much stuff mentioned in SS/PS, that show up later on. When i get some money i will definitely and SS to my collection. The movies is what definitel made me a fan. So to answer the thread, the movies do not ruin the books at all b/c you know the book will have all the details and hopefully the movie will have the best parts of the book.
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Old July 29th, 2003, 12:47 am
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I will say that i dont think the Movie runis the book at all, heck it was the movie that made me a fan. It was the summer of 2000 when i started reading some of Book 1 to a little girl i babysat for. I figured it was a cool book but i was too old for it, though i would have enjoyed it a few years ago i was 17 at the time.

Then Last Nov i rentend the First movie just to see it, as i always said i would rent it one day to see it. Anyways i really loved the movie and i thought if the movie is this good the book must be better. That Christamas i got the set of 4. Really loved each and every one of them, they just kept me reading. Though i had a distinct idea of what The trio looked like from the movies and some other things, i still had plently that i made in my mind of stuff that happen. I saw the 2nd movie after i read the 2nd book. Like the part with the spiders in the forbiend forest , I imagained that in my mind completely diffrent then it was done in the movie. When i read the 2nd book for a 2nd time, i still saw the scene they way i had when i first read it i guess cause in my mind it was better then what happend in the movie.

The way i look at it is that the movie will not ruin the book unless you let it When the first movie came out they intreview a few kids who had seen it, most loved it, but i remember one girl who didnt like it at all, she had just Imagineded it toalt diffrent. Heck thats one of the thinks about reading you see it the way you want to.
For those who may watch the movie and decide the book isnt good that is really their lose

It would be nice if they could put everything in but realtiy it would be 20+ hours, and it would most likely have to be a mini series on tv rather then on the big screen. I think they have done a fine job of potraying the movies though, i enjoyed the first 2 and look foward to POA , which i will most likely go and see on the big screen.


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Old July 29th, 2003, 4:06 pm
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I also like the movies, though not nearly as much as the books. The only reason I get slightly annoyed with the movies is when they cut a great scene or change a line or do something that takes away from the amazing plot. But I guess that's show business for you.


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Old July 29th, 2003, 4:31 pm
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I like the movies, they do not ruin the book for me cause i already read them and i already know whats going on. But if a person sees the movies first and then read the book they might get confused.


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Old July 29th, 2003, 4:41 pm
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The books will always be better than the movies. The movies can be excellent but nothing is more vivid than your imagination. I think the movies assist in the horrible franchise that now comes with Harry Potter, but i think there will always been a clear line between the books reputation/enjoyment and what the film manages.


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Old July 29th, 2003, 5:45 pm
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I started reading the books about a year before the first movie came out.

I didn't find the books, they found me. To be honest I was quite turned off by all the hype - I thought Harry Potter was nothing more than a clever marketing concept to rake in money.

But the good thing is, my husband and I like to read a lot. My husband moreso, and he never judges a book by it's cover. We decided to pick up the first book to see what the hype was about. Plus, a movie was coming out, and since we're avid movie fans, and we wanted to read the book first.

Within 4 days, both my husband and I read the first book and we straight away went out and bought the rest. I am glad we did, and I never looked back. It allowed us a different perspective on which to enjoy as well as critique the film.

As far as the movies go, I was not expecting the Harry Potter movie to posess a Lord of the Rings caliber, which I'm of the opinion that the LOTR movies were a labour of love for director Pete Jackson. Not to compare LOTR with Harry Potter, but I didn't get the feeling that Chris Columbus's interpretation of the Harry Potter stories was a labor of love which is a shame considering how the books are written and how much they are loved world wide. Chris Columbus is not my favorite director by a long shot, though I feel he did a fair, acceptable job with the movie given the limitations film adaptations are forced to have. The overall vision of the wizarding world was crafted and displayed beautifully - I love that the school was actually filmed in a gorgeous, real life chapel. The visuals were OK with the first movie (the Quidditch match's CGI left little to be desired imo) but the second movie's special effects were a bit more fine tuned, especially Dobby's character. Whoever was in charge of casting the actors and actresses deserves much much credit, as I feel each actor and actress shined wonderfully and portrayed each character almost to my mind's eye.

In all, I don't think the movies ruin the books at all (though I can do without the marketing hoopla that surrounds the movies.) The books had a magical way of selling themselves because they are written so well and people can relate to them. But the movies introduced kids to something much more influential, and that is the gift of reading. In my book, if the movies are the gateway to a child picking up a book and passionately reading and comprehending from cover to cover - then that's a good thing.

I can't wait for my son to read the books. He's already seen the movies (well most of them, I didn't let him watch the overly scarey parts) and I feel they are the gateway to his eventual reading of the Harry Potter books.


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Old July 29th, 2003, 5:59 pm
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well the movies are good and they did get some people into the books but i don't like harry potter merchandisin and makin all these stuff. 1 thing that's important about a book is to imagine it the way u want it to be. The movies and action figures and the lego sets totally go against it. this goes for LOTR too


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Old July 29th, 2003, 6:36 pm
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Well, I have nothing against them making the books into films; I think that these books have lots of potential to be great movies, and see no reason not to adapt them. Nor do I have any qualms regarding what is cut--cuts have to be make, and some things work well in a book that don't in a movie. The only thing I don't like about the first two films is that they were poorly made--very standard, with no originality or creativity on the part of the director. The screenplay was acceptable, but Kloves is not a great writer, and I thought that some of the sets went to far. The costumes were sub-standard as well, and the cinematography and editting were poorly done. Its these things that I don't like about the movies; I have nothing against film adaptations of the books, as long as they are well done.


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Old July 29th, 2003, 7:05 pm
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Like Cat, I doubt that the books can be ruined by a poorly made movie. If the movie is disappointing, no one is going to look poorly on the books.

I am also one of those who became a fan of HP after seeing the first movie. What captured me about it was the story. The acting could have been horrible, and the script could have been dismally boring, but that would not have been able to overshadow the basic story and the morals it teaches.

Bad movies are bad movies. Great books will always be great books.


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Old July 29th, 2003, 7:20 pm
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well the movies are good and they did get some people into the books but i don't like harry potter merchandisin and makin all these stuff. 1 thing that's important about a book is to imagine it the way u want it to be. The movies and action figures and the lego sets totally go against it. this goes for LOTR too
I think marketing collectibles from movies is pretty much hit and miss, it depends on the item being marketed. Personally I love most of the Lord of the Rings collectibles - like I said before, that movie was a labor of love and I think a majority of the collectibles do a great job of portraying the vision displayed in the movies (as well detail described in the multi-disc Lord of the Rings DVD sets.) A lot of those collectibles were designed by *** WETA workshop - the same team responsible for the sets, costumes, cgi and special effects on Lord of the Rings. Some of them are downright pieces of art I wouldn't mind having displayed in my home. I also enjoy the artistry in the Todd McFarlane collectibles (Spawn in particular.)


The Harry Potter collectibles are understandable, though I don't really care for them personally. They are constructed more as toys for kids than they are high fetching collectibles. I must admit though, I do like the Bertie Botts Every Flavor jellybellies and the chocolate frogs allow me to get my choco-fix. Very clever, food items usually don't translate well in movie marketing ploys and especially book marketing ploys.


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Old July 29th, 2003, 9:40 pm
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Thanks for the replies so far, I never realized before how many fans were turned onto the books until after seeing the movies. In my experience, pretty much everyone I know has either read the books before the movies came out, or has seen the movies first and will not read the books becasue they already saw the movies (which really gets on my nerves, but their loss). Don't get me wrong I do love watching the movies, and you will always find me in line opening night, but sometimes I wonder if it would be better without the movies, and let all the hype pertain to the book.


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