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His loyalty to his friends. |
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40 | 80.00% |
His friendship with Remus. |
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2 | 4.00% |
The likelihood of him being in the doghouse (har de dar). |
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1 | 2.00% |
His reckless nature. |
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11 | 22.00% |
Obligatory pony option. |
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4 | 8.00% |
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I don't know about this. What do we know about Sirius that Harry didn't ? Harry may have been blind or downplayed certain aspects of Sirius' character but a lot of people do that.
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Sirius could have just forgotten about Remus or not really thought about him. |
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Or maybe it's JKR herself who didn't think about how Remus needed money more than Harry did - or she could have had Sirius leaving a certain amount of money to Remus. Harry already had the fortune his parents left him at Gringott's, and the house in Godric's Hollow. Oh he knew that Harry had plenty of money on his own. It was more a gesture of love and family feeling, IMO. |
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And also to make sure that none of his other relatives got their hands on anything. The reason Sirius got everything from his parents (despite them being estranged) was because they had no will and thus everything passed to him when they died by default. By giving it all to Harry he made sure his other relatives (Bellatrix being the biggest threat) couldn't get anything belonging to his branch of the family.
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...Yeah, a bit of a blunder on Sirius' behalf. But all those years in Azkaban and his own underlying personality issues beforehand probably didn't leave him the most thoughtful of people. He probably just thought "Gotta give it all to someone...eh, I'll just name it to Harry!" instead of thinking out all possibilities.
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I think it is also possible that Sirius was protecting Lupin, and all other adults he was associated with in the Order. Sirius was still wanted by the Ministry up to the day he died, and I think naming any adults in his will could have marked them for investigation. That could have been especially dangerous for someone like Lupin, who was already viewed with suspicion by many because he was a werewolf. Having someone who was considered an escaped Dark Wizard, murderer, and minion of Voldemort leave a werewolf a fortune in his will probably would have done Lupin no favors. Sirius could not have known that his name would be cleared shortly after his death, but had he been cleared before he died he might have left a very different will. I think Sirius took his circumstances into consideration when doing out his last will and testament.
Harry was underage, in no position to harbor a fugitive, and Sirius's godson, which I think made it plausible and safe to leave everything to him in the will, and assured that Grimmauld place could still be used as Order headquarters.
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Would've been nice and thoughtful if he'd also left Harry a note saying "Please give half the money to Remus." or something. Or maybe he hoped Harry would just do so anyways.
Funny how Harry just keeps inheriting all this great stuff (huge family fortune, Grimmauld Place, the Invisibility Cloak, Sirius' fortune). Sirius was lucky he wasn't disinherited before his parents died and everything didn't go to Narcissa (since Bellatrix was in jail and Andromeda disinherited). |
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Why didn't anyone try to clear Sirius' name between PoA and OOTP? I mean, Dumbledore believed he was innocent, and they had the testimonies of Harry, Ron, Hermione, Remus and Snape (if DD forced him) to back it all up.
It's not like they had any MORE evidence to clear Sirius in OOTP when he was cleared, than they did back in PoA and GoF. |
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They would have had testimonies from the Death Eaters at the end of OoTP.
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Is that the explicit reason given for how his innocence was proven? They got the DEs to all say "Yeah, Peter Pettigrew is one of us and he framed Sirius"?
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Actually I don't recall any particular reason for Sirius being cleared except 'he's dead now and it doesn't matter whether he was a DE or not.'
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At the end of PoA, they had no evidence to use to clear Sirius.
It had been stated that the kids had been confunded, and none of the adults had witnessed Peter Pettigrew except Sirius and Lupin-- and Lupin was a werewolf and close friend of Sirius's. I think the best that Dumbledore could have gotten at that point was an actual trial for Sirius, since he had never had one, but without the evidence to clearly prove Sirius's innocence it probably would have been a fruitless drain on goodwill and resources. I think it was shown throughout GoF that Fudge was resisting the idea that Voldemort could arise again, that certain people he assumed guilty were actually innocent (like Sirius), and that certain people he believed trustworthy were actually Death Eaters (like Lucius Malfoy). Over the course of that year Fudge decided that Dumbledore was simply bidding for power and Harry was a crackpot. Wolfbrother makes a good point: At the end of OotP, the Ministry has a bunch of Death Eaters in costody. Whether or not any of them sing, their existence confirms the tale that Dumbledore and Harry have been telling all along, plus Voldemort has been spotted by Aurors and the Minister himself. At that point Dumbledore and the Order are back in good graces-- and can confirm that Sirius is not a Death Eater and was helping them fight Death Eaters. Aurors Kingsley Shacklebolt and Tonks can lend witness to that-- credible witnesses. Since Sirius never actually had a trial, he doesn't even need a pardon. The Ministry can just declare his innocence and let the matter drop.
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I love Lily because she chooses a path to match her convictions, and chooses to live her life fighting for what is right. It is our choices that show who we truly are. "UNTIL THE VERY END" -- JK Rowling to Harry Potter fans at the beginning of Deathly Hallows, and James Potter to his son at the end of Deathly Hallows. |
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Dumbledore was the head of the Wizengot in PoA and GoF, I'd think that would've counted for some kind of challenge to Sirius' case. And Fudge didn't really turn on everyone until the end of GoF, so he wouldn't have been a problem then either.
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Dumbledore had no proof though. He was the one who told that Sirius was secret keeper in the first place.
Come to think of it, proving Sirius' innocence would have likely meant revealing that he was an illegal Animagus. |
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Perhaps his actions during the war, as well as spending 13 years in jail for a crime he didn't commit, would be enough to get him pardoned for that as well. Or just grant him a license.
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