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I'm not really sure if I made this clear or not, though I'll try to explain again. I don't think the whole genetic mutation thing came from there being a lack of love. If this was true a good population of our race would be born evil. I think that the potion acted as kind of a drug, altering the "good" or "bad" or whatever you want to call it gene.
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The presence of a mother in Tom Riddle's life would have changed Tom Riddle. How it would have changed Tom Riddle is hard to specify - plenty of bad apples come from good homes as kids - but it's hard to think that Tom Riddle would have turned out the exact same way that he did if Merope hadn't died.
Merope may not have known a mother's love herself - we get (to my knowledge) no mention of who her mother is - so it may not have seemed an awful thing for her to deprive Tom Riddle of a mother. She was probably in such a bad state mentally at that point that she felt it hardly mattered whether she lived or died. I posted some thoughts on this topic upthread, but I'll repeat one now - Harry's description of Merope as "the most defeated person he's ever seen" seems quite accurate. The influence of the men in her life seemed to just drain her of her will to be a witch and her will to live. |
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Because of the lack of mention of Merope's mother (Marvolo's wife), we can also guess as to what became of her. I can't imagine that she and Marvolo fell in love with each other. Maybe her family pushed her into the marriage (or arranged it) in order to be related to the descendents of the famous Salazar Slytherin. My guess is that Mrs. Gaunt either died or left the family. Either way it would only have a negative effect on Merope.
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Also I would like to point out something about LV being evil. I believe that if Merope had stayed alive, LV wouldn't have been as bad as he is now. He probably would have turned out to be more like Snape. His whole quest is based on living forever. He is afraid of death because his mother, a witch, could not save herself from it. |
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I agree with you Loona that it's a good possibility that Merope and Morfin's mother may have been related to Marvolo. It would explain a lot. But she could also have been forced into a marraige, which would also explain a lot. Personally I'm beginning to like the idea that Merope's mother was forced into marrying Merope's father. Then she herself left, leading to Marvolo's bitterness towards women, and thus his treatment of his own daughter. No canon to support my guess...just a bit of psychoanalysis ![]() |
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Maybe she did the same as Merope, she could have given up on her family. You can hardly blame her and it could have been an example to Merope.
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I wanted put this option out there and get other reader's opinions. There were plenty of things that bothered me about Merope using a love potion on TR Sr. First, there is the general "ick factor." Also, others have pointed out that Merope could have been too magically weak to brew a love potion or Merope did not have enough money to buy a love potion. But what if Merope did not need a love potion, in that she was a metamorphamagus and turned herself into a stunningly beautiful women in order to marry TR Sr.? As I reread the chapter "House of Gaunt," I noticed that at one point Harry describes Merope as if she wanted to blend into the wall. This phrase immediately reminded me of a chameleon, in how they can change their appearance in order to blend into their surroundings. Then I remembered that Harry does not notice Merope for a long while once he enters the Gaunt house. Was it because he didn't notice her, or was it because he couldn't notice her, in that she actually had blended into the wall? Furthermore, in reading the description of Merope as depressed with lank hair I remembered the description of Tonks in HBP as being depressed and having mousy hair. Both Tonks and Merope are dejected, both are dejected because they cannot be with the men they want, and both are described as have have "down" appearances. Could this be a clue that they are both metamorphamagi? Merope being a metamorphamagus would explain a peculiar comment Morfin makes to her in "House of Gaunt." Morfin say to her in essence, "so, TR Sr. didn't want you, did he?" This comment makes no sense. In specific, it indicates that there was a possibility in the first place that TR Sr. would have liked the appearance of Merope. And it clearly stated in the text that Merope was very unattractive. So what hope would there have been for TR Sr. to have seen her and fallen for her on sight? Very little. Then why did Morfin make that comment, which inherently implies that Merope had a chance to attract TR Sr. with her looks? The comment does make sense if Merope was a Morphus and transformed herself into a moderately attractive person in order to catch TR Sr.'s eye when he rode by. Then Morfin's comment is appropriate, in that he is saying, "you morphed yourself into a better looking person and he still didn't want you, did he?" So Merope being a metamorphamagus would explain why Morfin acted as if she would have been able to attract TR Sr. with her appearance. When I was looking at the Gaunt family names I saw a pattern. The name Morfin could be related to Morpheus and thus have something to do with sleep. But a homonym root for Morfin is "morph," as in metamorphamagus. What if being a metamorphamagus ran in the Gaunt family and that is why Morfin got his name? Later, I found out that Marvolo is similar to "marvros," the Greek word for "black." So perhaps Marvolo got his name because his mother was born a Black (his mother could have still been his father's cousin in her mother was Gaunt and her father a Black). And being a metamorphamagus could run in the Black family (Tonks, and I suspect Regulus) just as Parselmouths run in the Gaunt family. So if Marvolo is a descendant of the Black family as well at the Gaunts, then naming his son "Morfin" could be a way of acknowledging that heritage. If Merope could have changed her appearance, this would explain how she could have "tricked" TR Sr. without using a potion. Once her father and brother went off to Azkaban, she would have been much happier and may have been able to use her morphing abilities to a greater extent. This would be congruent with Tonks in HBP. In that book, Tonks is depressed and as a result she is having trouble morphing, as Hermione tells Harry in HBP. But when she is happy at the end she is able to morph well again, as her vivid pink hair represents. By this logic, once Merope was happier she may have been able to morph herself into a fantastically beautiful woman. And with that fantastic beauty she may have been able to entrance TR Sr. enough for him to start carrying on with her and to leave Cecelia. The main problem with Merope changing her appearance into that of a beautiful woman is DD's comment regarding the villagers' reaction to her marriage to TR Sr.. DD says that there was a scandal in the village when the squire's son ran off with the tramp's daughter. Now, if Merope changed her appearance, how would the villagers have known that she was the tramp's daughter? Once explanation is that DD was just speculating when he made the comment. But there could be another. In OotP when Harry first meets Tonks she is has short purple hair and a heart shaped face. Later at Grimmaund Place Tonks has long red hair and turns her nose into a hooked nose to entertain the kids. And when Harry sees Tonks before going to St.Mungo's she is an old woman. Now, if a Muggle who knew nothing of magic saw a girl with short purple hair, a girl with long red hair and a hooked nose, and an old woman, would the Muggle think they are the same person? No. So it could have been the same with Merope. Specifically, Merope kept her true, deformed appearance at home but when she went to town with Marvolo she could have morphed into a normal looking girl so that the villagers would not harass her. And if the villagers saw a normal looking girl in town with Marvolo and a deformed girl in the yard around Marvolo's house, they would assume that they are two different girls and that they are both Marvolo's daughters since the villagers see the "two" girls either with Marvolo or at Marvolo's home. Once Marvolo and Morfin go to Azkaban, Merope would be happy enough to use her morphing abilities to their fullest and would turn herself into unbelievably beautiful-Cecelia who?-Merope and then stand in her yard until TR Sr. rode by. And when a stunned TR Sr. came up to talk to her, Merope could just say, "Oh, I'm the youngest Gaunt sister. My father could not afford to raise me so he sent me to live with my aunt. I'm just visiting, yada, yada, yada, whatever." TR Sr. would be so smitten that he really wouldn't care what Merope said. But the important point is if the villagers saw TR Sr. and beautiful Merope together in the town, they would ask TR Sr. who she is and TR Sr. would say beautiful Merope is Marvolo Gaunt's youngest daughter. And when TR Sr. marries beautiful Merope, thus the scandal of the squire's son running off with the tramp's daughter. Merope being a metmorphamagus could also explain why TR Sr. left her. In HBP, Dumbledore suspects that Merope stopped using a love potion of TR Sr. because she didn't want to have a "fake" relationship with him anymore. When I first read this, it did not make sense. Why would Merope, who was unethical enough to use a potion on TR Sr., suddenly develop a sense of morality? But what if Merope, instead of choosing to stop tricking TR Sr., had to stop tricking him. In specific, what if being pregnant affected her ability to morph? What if being pregnant forced Merope's body to return to it's original form so that her biology would be compatible with her baby's? In normal human biology, the body will protect the baby even if it means killing the mother. So what if it the same with Metamorphamagi, in that their bodies will not allow them to morph if morphing endangers the baby? If being pregnant prevented Merope from being able to morph, then she would have been forced to return to her true, unattractive appearance. And once she stops morphing TR Sr. will see her true appearance and would leave her. That would explain why TR Sr. left Merope when she was pregnant. This also explains TR Sr. saying that he was fooled, in that he was fooled by her appearance, rather than by a potion. Merope using her appearance to get TR Sr. would also add an interesting aspect to the series. In CoS, we "know" that TR. Sr. left Merope when he found out that she was a Witch, thus making TR Sr. the villain and Merope the victim. Then in HBP, we "find out" that Merope used a potion of TR Sr., making Merope the villain and TR Sr. the victim. With Merope lying with her appearance and TR Sr. leaving Cecelia and then Merope based on solely on the women's looks, both are to blame and this gives a more balanced allotment of fault and a final twist to the story. So there it is. It is being discussed in the original thread, which can be found here Was Merope REALLY a metamorphmagus? http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=99905
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I don't think Merope would have cared about the opinion of other people, she was in love, Riddle Sr was in love with her, due to the potion. She had all what she wanted, why should she change her appearance to go outside? She had been used to being looked down up during her whole life. Quote:
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So either Merope is a witch and brew it herself or she's a squib and bought one or still made it herself, what I doubt.
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I think she brew it herself, she did all the cooking, so I am sure potions were no problem when she was rid of her family members and could use her abilities to the fullest.
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I have written it wrongly. Someone could first be considered a Squib with all the characteristics, like Merope was called a Squib by her father and then later perform magic. But like I have said a few times before I consider her a witch.
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Thanks for the quote anabel.
Here's the quote of what Jo said about the person who will perform magic later in life. But Jo also said that this is very rare and it will only happen to one out of 100s HP characters in the books. Merope, in case she's was a Squib, was still young and in the quote it refers to "late in life". So it doesn't refer to her in this case.
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I can't wait to find out who does magic late in life! But it's a bit confusing. Would that be someone who refused their place at Hogwarts, do you think?
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Now do you think Merope attended Hogwarts, in case she was a real witch? Or did her father refused to send her there?
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