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Old August 26th, 2005, 8:52 pm
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I kind of think it might be the other way around, Draco saving Harry's life. Maybe its a little cliched I guess... but it makes sense, Draco has forever owed a debt to Harry, having started the little war between the two of them...


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Old August 27th, 2005, 3:58 am
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Some very good thoughts have been put into this by you guys. Will Harry save Draco's life? I don't know. Would he save Draco's life? Yes, for the reasons others have stated.

My theory is that Draco will have the opportunity to either help or destory Harry. My opinion is that he'll grow up and help. Harry will tell him something like Draco can be the hero, have the glory and be remembered as a great wizard if he helps. Draco seems a tad bit smarter than Fudge so maybe it will happen.

I think a more interesting question is "Will Snape save Harry's life?"

Of course that drills into the whole Is Snape evil or good deal. But like Harry not forgetting the moment Draco's wand dropped, I haven't forgotten the moment Snape hesitated in the Unbreakable Vow.

Just a couple of things to keep in mind.


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Old August 27th, 2005, 6:08 am
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Oh something I just realized-
When performed the sectumsempra spell on Draco and he thought he had possibly killed him, he was like "Oh God thats not what I was goin for"

I don't know if that has anymore meaning than that Harry isn't a murdered (yet) or if there is some kind of deep down feeling that Harry has for Malfoy... that he wishes inwardly that Malfoy would depart from his ways...


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Old August 27th, 2005, 11:34 am
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Harry - "Oh God that's not what I was goin' for"... He meant that he'd never wish to kill Draco. I don't believe he'd go that far or that he has it in him. Especially after seeing Malfoy at his most vulnerable in the restroom with Myrtle, i reckon he has a newfound sympathy for Malfoy, even if only a drop of it. Of course he'd save Draco's life if he was caught in such a situation.


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Old August 31st, 2005, 2:24 am
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JK has kept on saying in her interviews that while we think Tom Felton is good, Draco is not Tom Felton and he is NOT a good person. She reiterates this point with Dobby who always says that Draco is a "very bad boy". I don't know. Draco hasn't really done anything especially bad so far. The one thing that would have made him evil was killing Dumbledore and he had his reasons plus it appeared as if he was not going to do it in the end. I'm wondering if JK is misleading us and we'll find out that Draco is extremely evil. I hope not, because Draco is actually one of my favourite fanfiction characters and he always turns out good. I can't adjust to him being evil.

However, if he is evil, I don't know. All I know is that Harry won't allow someone to die if he can help it unless it's at the risk of life of his friends (except for Voldy, Bella and Evil!Snape, that is).


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Old August 31st, 2005, 2:43 am
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is that the marauders put severuses life in danger
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Old September 1st, 2005, 10:02 pm
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If the circumstances played out such that Harry had the opportunity to save Dracoís life in some way, I believe heíd do it. Though Harry may hate Draco with a passion, I donít believe he would want to see Draco dead. So if there was a situation in which Draco was in danger, I believe Harry would save him. This doesnít mean Draco will suddenly become great friends with Harry if this happens, because I donít believe Draco would ever be friendly with Harry no matter what.

Although I believe Harry would save Dracoís life if the circumstances were such, Iím not sure such a situation will present itself in the final book. I guess itís possible, but this would create another life debt that someone owes Harry (since Harry would be saving the life of a sworn enemy), and I donít see how this could be worked into the plot when Harry would likely save Draco near the end of the book. Of course I may be wrong, but I donít know if JKR would write the book such that Harry will be in a situation where he would save Draco.


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Old September 7th, 2005, 5:13 am
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I think a more interesting question is "Will Snape save Harry's life?"
I think this is a very good question. If Snape is good I think there is every possibility that he will in fact save Harry's life. The only problem is that I sometimes see Pettigrew relegated to this role for the simple reason that he has the life debt and there's only one more book to go for him to pay it back. Maybe he won't. I would really prefer if Snape saves Harry's life. It would make for a very interesting read.

On topic though, if Harry has the chance, he will save Draco's life because that is Harry - he has a "saving people" thing. I'm not sure the plot is headed that way though.

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Old September 7th, 2005, 5:34 am
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I would really like to see Draco saving Harry's life. I think possibly that LV will want revenge against Lucius for aiding (although unwittingly) Harry in destroying his diary horcrux. Although Draco is drawn to the dark side, he will join with Harry and the Order, not because he's seen the light, but because he will want to avenge his fathers murder. I think that a situation will arise when Harry is in danger and Draco will realize that Harry is the only one who can defeat Voldemort and Draco will foil LV's plans, and in turn, save Harry's life. It probably won't play out that way, but that is what I would like to see happen.


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Old September 12th, 2005, 5:06 pm
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I dont believe Harry will save Dracoz life or Draco will save Harryz life.

For some reason, I strongly believe that Draco will save Hermionez life!!!!

I dont know why, it just feelz like thatz whatz gonna happen.


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Old September 13th, 2005, 4:51 am
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Will Harry save Draco's life?

Well there are several questions to ask within that question.

First can Harry see that Draco saw no other choice than to attempt to kill Dumbledore? For Draco it was big talk about how Dumbeldore was no good. The Dark Arts were sexy and had a real allure to them. However talk is cheap and the sexiness of something forbidden beomes horrow when your realize that your father is in prison because he failed the Dark Lord and you know that your mother's life, your father's life and you're own are all dependent on fulfilling the Dark Lord's wishes. Now it's a nightmare that an immature boy never before understood. Draco is a product of his upbringing - he's spoiled, he's used to getting his own way, he's prejudiced, but I don't think he's evil. Dumbledore didn't think he was evil either. In fact Draco's crying to Myrtle shows how much good was still in him to cause his such pain. It also shows he didn't know where to turn or what to do. Draco had no-one he could trust and share with other than a ghost. He certainly didn't trust Snape, who as far as he was concerned was a death eater too.


If Harry can see that for Draco there was no other choice or action he could take at that time because Draco could see no other option, then the next question is can Harry have enough forgiveness and compassion to bring the redemption of Draco's soul back from the death eaters camp. Harry will be a 17 year old wizard yet still a teenager. It will be tough for him to do. I think as Lily and James' son and as the prodigy of Dumbledore that Harry will bridge that gap and help Draco.


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Old September 13th, 2005, 5:33 am
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I think if Harry had the opportunity to Save Draco, Harry would do it. While Harry doesn't like Draco, it doesn't mean he truly wants him dead. In fact I think Harry would almost miss Draco if he were dead. It's like the two of them have a love hate relationship. They love to hate, ridicule, and compete against one another.


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Old September 13th, 2005, 5:58 am
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An interesting question, prolly would if Draco was all helpless and it could launch into something else like 'fooled you Potty!' it could show Harry showing some mercy and thats cool


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Old October 4th, 2005, 8:12 pm
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I wondered if there are parallels between Lily/James and Ginny/Draco. p.143 uk edition. pansy says that a lot of boys think that ginny is good-looking. and while saying this she watches Draco out of the corner of her eyes. maybe draco does in a way feel like snape probably felt for lily. maybe ginny will help draco in the end (willingly or unwillingly....)! Complete nonsense or possible? your thoughts please! :-)


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Old October 5th, 2005, 2:56 am
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Something important in this debate: Dumbledore didn't tell Draco about the option of hiding him because of Voldemort's Legilimency. He told this to Draco. This means that, now that Dumbledore's dead after telling Draco about the option of hiding him, and Draco failed to kill Dumbledore, Draco practically has no choice about running from the Death Eaters and taking Dumbledore's offer.
Also, as to the debate of whether or not Harry understood Malfloy, we already knew he did to a certain degree. Harry understood that Malfloy wouldn't have killed Dumbledore, and felt sorry for him because he knew that Voldemort would force draco to do horrible things under the threat of killing his entire family.


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Old October 5th, 2005, 3:06 am
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probably. he saved pettigrew.


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Old October 5th, 2005, 5:06 am
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I think it is possible, but I am weary about Draco. On one hand I find him to be a weak character devoid of any real substance. Given this, I don't see him lasting very long. I see him folding under the pressure just as he almost did in front of Dumbledore at the end of book 6. On the other hand, I see him with a thirst for power with similiar characteristics to Snape and Voldemort himself.

I think if the first hand is heavier, then I think that the possiblity for Harry to save Draco, as I see him slinking off into a corner out a fear in a metaphorical sense. Harry will then step in being the selfless person that Harry is, and save him from Voldemort's hand. If the latter hand is heavier then I don't see Harry risking his life to save Draco at all, but I see Harry discounting him as one of the "lost".

Given the scene at the end of Book 6, I think the first hand is quite plausable as we see the bully broken down to his wits end, a true, or rather truer view into his character.


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Old October 5th, 2005, 5:16 am
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I'd like to think that Harry would help Draco. But I think Draco would be bitter about it and become another Snape.


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Old October 13th, 2005, 2:44 am
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I agree with the others who say that it might be Draco who saves Harry . I am sure that Harry would save Draco if it was necessary, since he even saves people who have done him great harm(pettigrew). If Draco were to save Harry, it would mean that he can be redeemed. He is probably not a very good person, but there is no way he is evil. An evil person would not have let Dumberdore live. In the earlier books Draco was a coward. But I don't think that Draco is really a coward anymore. By the end of the book, the cowardly think to do would have been to kill Dumbledore. It was brave of him to consider trusting Dumbledore enough to want to listen to him. A good example of a true coward (and possibly evil person) would be Peter Pettigrew. Peter doesn't hesitate to kill out of fear, even those who have done nothing to him. Draco had a reason( the possible murder of him parents at stake)to kill Dumbledore. And Voldemort had ordered him to. He has some morality, since he could not kill. I think that there may be some good in him. Perhaps he can help the Order, maybe not.


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Old October 13th, 2005, 3:18 am
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I'd say there is a good chance that he will. Draco is capable but Harry seems better able to cope with the war.


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