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Old July 18th, 2005, 3:51 am
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I could see Harry needing him to get a Horcrux and Smith being completely uncooperative
Smith doesn't have the horcrux though. It was stolen by Voldemort as described in that chapter. However, it'll be interesting to see if he can help Harry in any way. (If he is indeed related to Hufflepuff)


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Old July 18th, 2005, 3:59 am
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I'm pretty sure that Zacharias is related to Hepizebah, but it could be a coincidence like Mark Evans. Smith is a very common name, but inthis case I think you are correct that he is a descendant.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 5:07 am
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Smith doesn't have the horcrux though. It was stolen by Voldemort as described in that chapter. However, it'll be interesting to see if he can help Harry in any way. (If he is indeed related to Hufflepuff)
I agree, just because it was his family's heirloom, it doesn't mean he has it now. (and it is very likely that the heirloom is the goblet). If the family knows they are Hufflepuff descendants tho, wouldn't Zacharias be the type to go bragging about it?


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Yes, I also think that old Zack was related to Hepzibah and Helga.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 6:04 am
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That's exactly what I thought when I read it! Both times, I mean it makes sense. I couldn't see Smith having a big role, but I bet it'll be mentioned...probably when Harry's destroying the Hufflepuff Horcrux!


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Old July 18th, 2005, 6:06 am
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I thought of that too! It make sense, JKR wouldn't let another Mark Evans be born.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 6:39 am
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Yes I also thought that Zacharias could be related to H.Hufflepuff when Hepzibah was mentioned.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 7:08 am
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someone on the forums somewhere (sorry, it was a few hours ago) said that in the canadian version hepzibah decends from helga and zacharias is related to hepzibah. there you go.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 8:05 am
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someone on the forums somewhere (sorry, it was a few hours ago) said that in the canadian version hepzibah decends from helga and zacharias is related to hepzibah. there you go.
There is no mention of Zacharias and Hepzibah are related.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 8:59 am
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woops sorry. you're right. i found that post, and it was speculation.

however, i think the shared surname of "smith" is significant.

jkr said she learned from her mark evans mistake, so i don't think she would give both of them the surname smith if it weren't important.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 10:18 am
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I'm so glad someone other than myself thought about this! I thought I was grasping at straws. In my mind, I thought Hepzipah and Zacharias's names looked/sounded similar, and then there's the shared surname and the Hufflepuff connection. I hope Zacharias is connected, because it seems like it's going to be really hard for Harry to aquire all the Horcruxes. A former D.A. member (albeit one he doesn't like) having one of them would help Harry immensely.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 2:25 pm
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probably he is distantly related and he is in the hufflepuff house too...


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Old July 18th, 2005, 2:31 pm
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Yeah, my first thought when I was reading that memory was of Zacharias Smith. It could be that this is a crucial part of the book. As Zacharias hasn't really done anything of importance so far.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 3:13 pm
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I thinks its pretty clear he is. Look at Amelia ( ) and Susan Bones!! The only exception would be the infamous Mark Evans.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 3:17 pm
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this could weel be true


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Old July 18th, 2005, 3:26 pm
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wow never thought of it- but it is possible and quite likley.
it really would be a shame if it turned out to be a mark evans.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 3:30 pm
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I was thinking about that too it's a 50/50 chance he might be


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Old July 18th, 2005, 3:31 pm
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In the real world, Smith is, yes, a ridiculously common surname.. But, in the world of Harry Potter, a place where strange surnames are abound, there seem to be no coincidences. We know JKR likes to find strange, silly names to use for her characters, so why would she dampen this opportunity to be creative by just using the name 'Smith'? I thought of this, too, when I read the book. It would make sense.


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AHH! PHOOEY! I wanted to start this thread! Oh well you snooze you loose...

Yes. The instant I saw Hebzibah Smith's name I wondered... Zacharias... but at first I was doubtful because Smith is a very common name (though we only know one in Potterverse...) and I had to check that Zacharias was indeed Hufflepuff... and he is so there we go...
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I was wondering is she wasn't that Fat lady from the portrait because she was fat and wearing a pink dress.
I don't really think they would have a picture of a Hufflepuff guarding the Gryffindor common-room and sleeping quarters. Just a thought.

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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:01 am
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Whos saying that the Horcrux has to be destroyed by a Hufflepuff descendant only?That would mean Zach would have to be used and this would be an good chapter indead,but hey we know what JK is like and i believe she has already thought about this part already and has produced something nobody could ever guess that would happen!


 
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