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Old September 5th, 2007, 2:30 am
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No, I'm sorry. I don't believe that for a second. Everyone swears at one time or another, but it's not always heard. You've never swore under your breath at something? Never touched something really hot and let it slip out accidentally?

Yes, but that's not what we're talking about here and I did address that in my first post in this thread, but since it was not linked with the one you are responding to I will cut you some slack. I don't swear on a normal basis, which is the gist I'm getting that most people tend to think teenagers do (I'm past my teenage years) in this thread. I'm not offended, just trying to state that it's not always true. Anyway, like I said in my previous post, it's nice to have Hermione portrayed as someone who dislikes swearing (through her "Ron!" exclamations when he does it), but when she's in a state it just pops out.
I'm not a goody-goody and I'm not trying to portray myself as one, but swearing is just not something I want to do. Honestly, it took a good long time for my friends to coax me to say the word "****." (ugh, banned word--it starts with c and rhymes with rap). Some of the people I hang out with, I would be really shocked to hear them say a dirty word. Sure, they might say it if they stubbed their toe on a rock, but any other time I would honestly be surprised.


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Old September 5th, 2007, 2:53 am
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Yes, but that's not what we're talking about here and I did address that in my first post in this thread, but since it was not linked with the one you are responding to I will cut you some slack. I don't swear on a normal basis, which is the gist I'm getting that most people tend to think teenagers do (I'm past my teenage years) in this thread. I'm not offended, just trying to state that it's not always true. Anyway, like I said in my previous post, it's nice to have Hermione portrayed as someone who dislikes swearing (through her "Ron!" exclamations when he does it), but when she's in a state it just pops out.
I'm not a goody-goody and I'm not trying to portray myself as one, but swearing is just not something I want to do. Honestly, it took a good long time for my friends to coax me to say the word "****." (ugh, banned word--it starts with c and rhymes with rap). Some of the people I hang out with, I would be really shocked to hear them say a dirty word. Sure, they might say it if they stubbed their toe on a rock, but any other time I would honestly be surprised.
Alrighty then, I knew it!

I too don't swear regularly, usually only when I'm in pain somehow or under my breath so no one hears me. I was just trying to make the point that everyone does it in some form or another.


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Re: Foul Language in DH

Yeah, yeah, accidentally Just not like Ron does and especially not in front of my parents (I don't care how old I am, I'll never be able to do that)! I like how Ron has the dirtiest mouth of the trio and Hermione has the "cleanest" one.


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Old September 5th, 2007, 3:01 am
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Of course I don't swear in front of my parents! That's murder for anyone to do, especially if they're young like me.


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Re: Foul Language in DH

Best not to candy-coat anything. People curse and all kids'll discover that eventually, anyway. The books grow with their readers, so naturally the hard realism that's been inherent in the series since book one is going to become more and more apparent. A lot of people complain that Molly's uses of the B-word was just stupid, and comical in its context, but I disagree. I mean, what did you expect her to say?

Perhaps:
"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU COCKADOODIE BRAT!"

Or the classic line:
"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU... witch..."


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Old September 5th, 2007, 3:11 am
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I agree, it would have sounded completely out of place if she said anything else- sugar coating it as you say.


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Old September 9th, 2007, 8:00 pm
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Re: Foul Language in DH

Calm down...It's just a word ! Woow ! Mrs.Weasley was really angry and I don't see how she could explain her wrath without say >biiiiiiiip< ! lol Lots of contemporary books use fool words...I've heard american version of DH has been censor (for this word), was that ? I wonder 'cause I don't excatly know the difference between American and English version (expt. covers and editors...)...But that's quite the same , uh?

Lady , => Waiting if "THE WORD" is really translate in her mother tongue ! XD lol


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Old September 9th, 2007, 9:27 pm
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The American version has not been censored. I would hate it dearly if that happened! I would be flying to Scholastic in New York and give them more than a piece of my mind if they did something like that.


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Re: Foul Language in DH

The language in the book wasn't exactly intense. Just some mild words. If I remember correctly, HBP had some "foul" language in it as well. As Rowling's characters mature, so does their language. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The language also adds a "teen" sense to the books so that I felt I could identify more with the characters. As for Molly's line, I thought it was great. It was totally unexpected, but it showed Molly's true desire to save her children and how much they mean to her.


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Old September 13th, 2007, 1:17 pm
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The language in the book wasn't exactly intense. Just some mild words. If I remember correctly, HBP had some "foul" language in it as well. As Rowling's characters mature, so does their language. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The language also adds a "teen" sense to the books so that I felt I could identify more with the characters. As for Molly's line, I thought it was great. It was totally unexpected, but it showed Molly's true desire to save her children and how much they mean to her.
I can't remember any foul language in HBP...???


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Re: Foul Language in DH

If you go to the chapter about the Gaunts, Marvolo calls Merope, well, something...


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If you go to the chapter about the Gaunts, Marvolo calls Merope, well, something...
HAHAHA!!! Yup I thought I was surprised by Jo's use of that word in HBP s***...
I personally don't mind the swearin as everyone has mentioned before the characters are getting older and everyone swears at some point.
Mrs. Wealey's line was awesome.("NOT MY DUAGHTER YOU witch!!!"...mugglecast anyone??) other than that I didn't notice that much swearing.

In OOTP when Mr Weasley is in St. Mungos he is about to swear or say something innapropiate in front of everyone and Mrs. Weasley gets mad at him and I've never been able to figure out what he was about to say.

And how about the "rude hand gesture" LOL that has been going on since GOF and I always laugh a little when I read those. I like the way Jo censored the words in all the books I always thought it made seem more funny I guess.



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This thread cracks me up. I still remember being slightly taken aback when Snape told Filch (in GoF), "I don't give a damn about that wretched poltergeist," because I hadn't noticed anyone swear in the books to that point, not even the adults.

And then, in OotP, Uncle Vernon with all those "effing owls"....shocking!


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The characters are getting older and really I think it adds to DH cause in a war your bound to get fustrated and swear a little.


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Old September 14th, 2007, 5:06 am
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This thread cracks me up. I still remember being slightly taken aback when Snape told Filch (in GoF), "I don't give a damn about that wretched poltergeist," because I hadn't noticed anyone swear in the books to that point, not even the adults.
That may have been the first spelled-out swearword, yeah, but have you checked to see if anyone had been described as "swearing under their breath" or if it's been said that "he swore" or anything like that? Those are less controversial because the cussword isn't written, but those instances should be taken into account, too, as they indicate the same thing as the blatant profanity does: the characters are being foul-mouthed like real people do.

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And then, in OotP, Uncle Vernon with all those "effing owls"....shocking!
Heh. Not really all that shocking as it's only a substitute for profanity. Like saying "flipping owls." Still, worth noting: Jo didn't shy away from suggesting the real word behind the letter, which is, as we know, the mother of all cusswords ("Except it didn't come out as 'fudge,' Cornelius..." ).


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If you go to the chapter about the Gaunts, Marvolo calls Merope, well, something...
Oh okays, I see what you're getting at. Though I never considered slut as a swear word.


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This thread cracks me up. I still remember being slightly taken aback when Snape told Filch (in GoF), "I don't give a damn about that wretched poltergeist," because I hadn't noticed anyone swear in the books to that point, not even the adults.
Therein revealing a huge cultural gulf. In many parts of the English speaking world damn doesn't even rate as a profanity.


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This thread cracks me up. I still remember being slightly taken aback when Snape told Filch (in GoF), "I don't give a damn about that wretched poltergeist," because I hadn't noticed anyone swear in the books to that point, not even the adults.
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Therein revealing a huge cultural gulf. In many parts of the English speaking world damn doesn't even rate as a profanity.
No, in fact it's something you say instead of worse swear words.

I was surprised that the other b-word (not the one used by Molly) appeared in the book, though.


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Old September 14th, 2007, 10:41 am
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You mean the word that 'bludgering' was a stand-in for? Or the one that Ron called Malfoy when he punched him for pleading with the Death Eater "And that's the second time we've saved your life tonight, you two-faced b____!"
I don't think the swearing amounted to all that much, really- I mean, even Hermione went off a bit- Merlin's pants and so on. And damn isn't really a swearword- it's quasi-legitimate, as far as language goes.


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Oh okays, I see what you're getting at. Though I never considered slut as a swear word.
I personally think it's not either but it's not family-friendly either It's perfect all right that DH had a few swear words IMO - to me, it sort of symbolized the fact that Harry has grown up enough to accept hearing it.


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