Little Questions Answered v.21

[ShadowSonic]

Didn't he say that he was allowed to use magic in getting Harry? That's why he didn't get in trouble for giving Dudley a pig's tail (though Dudley was a little kid, which still should've gotten him in trouble...).

[HedwigOwl]

Originally Posted by ShadowSonic

Didn't he say that he was allowed to use magic in getting Harry? That's why he didn't get in trouble for giving Dudley a pig's tail (though Dudley was a little kid, which still should've gotten him in trouble...).

Hagrid only had permission to use magic until he got to Harry and was in a position to bring him back. Here's a quote from PS/SS from Hagrid; he also takes liberty with the rules:

SS, chapter 5, pages 63-64 US hardcover Harry followed Hagrid out onto the rock. The sky was quite clear now and the sea gleamed in the sunlight. The boat Uncle Vernon had hired was still there, with a lot of water in the bottom after the storm. "How did you get here?" Harry asked, looking around for another boat. "Flew," said Hagrid. "Flew? "Yeah -- but we'll go back in this. Not s'pposed to ter use magic now I've got yeh." They settled down in the boat, Harry still staring at Hagrid, trying to imagine him flying. "Seems a shame ter row, though," said Hagrid, giving Harry another of his sideways looks. "If I was ter --er -- speed things up a bit, would you mind not mentionin' it at Hogwarts?" "Of course not," said Harry, eager to see more magic. Hagrid pulled out the pink umbrella again, tapped it twice on the side of the boat, and they sped off toward land.

[ShadowSonic]

....So how did the Dursleys get off the island if Hagrid took their boat? That place didn't have a phone so they couldn't call for another one.

[merrymarge]

This is an unsolved mystery. We had hoped it would have been mentioned in Pottermore, but no such luck. Some think Hagrid sent the boat back. Others think when the Dursleys didn't show up, the owner of the boat came looking for them. Maybe someday we will find out.

[ShadowSonic]

Bah, given how fat Vernon and Dudley were it would serve them right if Petunia used them as flotation devices while swimming home...

[merrymarge]

Originally Posted by ShadowSonic

Bah, given how fat Vernon and Dudley were it would serve them right if Petunia used them as flotation devices while swimming home...

[Richard_G.]

Know what I'm curious about?

What happened to the fallen warriors in the Battle of Hogwarts? Most main characters who died earlier in the series had no bodies to be buried - where were Remus, Tonks, Colin Creevey, Snape, Lavender (?), and Fred buried? Were they battled on the grounds - next to the White Tomb, as lasting memorials to the bravery of those who fought?

Just something to ponder.

[HedwigOwl]

Originally Posted by Richard_Gambon

Know what I'm curious about?

What happened to the fallen warriors in the Battle of Hogwarts? Most main characters who died earlier in the series had no bodies to be buried - where were Remus, Tonks, Colin Creevey, Snape, Lavender (?), and Fred buried? Were they battled on the grounds - next to the White Tomb, as lasting memorials to the bravery of those who fought?

Just something to ponder.

I think you're confusing the movies and books here, there's nothing in the books to support that Lavender dies, and there's nothing in the movie really, either. In the book, Hermione blasts Fenrir away with a spell as he's approaching Lavender to attack so he never bites her or kills her (Lavender is described as "feeble" but also "stirring", so was likely knocked out by a spell in battle). But never confirmed as dead. Nor in the movies, which unfolds about the same way.

As far as burials for those who died, most likely they were buried where their families had plots, either where they lived or in church cemetaries if they were at all religious.

[snapes_witch]

Originally Posted by Richard_Gambon

Know what I'm curious about?

What happened to the fallen warriors in the Battle of Hogwarts? Most main characters who died earlier in the series had no bodies to be buried - where were Remus, Tonks, Colin Creevey, Snape, Lavender (?), and Fred buried? Were they battled on the grounds - next to the White Tomb, as lasting memorials to the bravery of those who fought?

Just something to ponder.

I agree with HedwigOwl that they're all probably buried in family plots, but Snape? His bones are probably back there in the Shrieking Shack!

[Richard_G.]

I think you're confusing the movies and books here, there's nothing in the books to support that Lavender dies, and there's nothing in the movie really, either. In the book, Hermione blasts Fenrir away with a spell as he's approaching Lavender to attack so he never bites her or kills her (Lavender is described as "feeble" but also "stirring", so was likely knocked out by a spell in battle). But never confirmed as dead. Nor in the movies, which unfolds about the same way.

That's why I put the question mark after her, it's never confirmed one way or the other, and I figured, well, seeing as she might have died, it would be an insult to her memory not to include her name.

Digging the signature, by the way. I just watched the first Matt Smith episode, and it's just not the same

[FurryDice]

Originally Posted by Richard_Gambon

What happened to the fallen warriors in the Battle of Hogwarts? Most main characters who died earlier in the series had no bodies to be buried - where were Remus, Tonks, Colin Creevey, Snape, Lavender (?), and Fred buried? Were they battled on the grounds - next to the White Tomb, as lasting memorials to the bravery of those who fought?

I doubt they would all have been buried at Hogwarts. I agree with HedwigOwl that they would probably have been buried in family plots. For a couple of reasons - I doubt that the Hogwarts grounds would have been turned into a cemetery. Plus, I think the families of the deceased would have preferred a more accessible gravesite to visit - particularly with those who had Muggle families like Colin. Hogwarts security wouldn't really make for an accessible gravesite to visit, even for wizarding families.

Originally Posted by snapes_witch

I agree with HedwigOwl that they're all probably buried in family plots, but Snape? His bones are probably back there in the Shrieking Shack!

I doubt it. Once his allegiance was known, his remains would have been given a proper burial by Harry, or the Order or the Ministry. I see no reason why they would leave his remains in the Shack.

[HRW]

I've always wondered whose body Trelawney and Parvati were weeping over in the DH2 movie. Must've been either Padma or Lavender I guess

[MerryLore]

Originally Posted by HRW

I've always wondered whose body Trelawney and Parvati were weeping over in the DH2 movie. Must've been either Padma or Lavender I guess

It's meant to be Lavender's, I think, even though she lived in the book.

[yorkiedoodle]

Originally Posted by snapes_witch

I agree with HedwigOwl that they're all probably buried in family plots, but Snape? His bones are probably back there in the Shrieking Shack!

I suspect that once Snape's true role was established Harry and the other Order members would have sorted out a funeral for him. Given the length of his time at Hogwarts a large part of me hopes that he was buried near Dumbledore....

[MerryLore]

Originally Posted by snapes_witch

I agree with HedwigOwl that they're all probably buried in family plots, but Snape? His bones are probably back there in the Shrieking Shack!

I can't imagine a body being allowed to decompose in a public place. They moved him. He was probably buried in a small plot next to his parents, assuming they're dead as well.

[snapes_witch]

Originally Posted by MerryLore

I can't imagine a body being allowed to decompose in a public place. They moved him. He was probably buried in a small plot next to his parents, assuming they're dead as well.

The Shrieking Shack isn't public and I was being mildly ironic anyway.

[merrymarge]

I know it wasn't mentioned, but I hope no one came back as a ghost. I think the only one who was confirmed as not a ghost was Voldemort. A lot of people thought Voldemort would come back as a ghost because he was afraid of death, but Jo mentioned in a post-DH interview that he didn't. he moved on, but she didn't say where.

[asdfasdf17]

Originally Posted by merrymarge

I know it wasn't mentioned, but I hope no one came back as a ghost. I think the only one who was confirmed as not a ghost was Voldemort. A lot of people thought Voldemort would come back as a ghost because he was afraid of death, but Jo mentioned in a post-DH interview that he didn't. he moved on, but she didn't say where.

Thats true about Voldemort.
I can't imagine any of the fallen warriors would come back as ghosts. If they were willing to risk their lives in the Hogwarts battle than they probably aren't afraid of death.

[mirrormere]

Originally Posted by merrymarge

I know it wasn't mentioned, but I hope no one came back as a ghost. I think the only one who was confirmed as not a ghost was Voldemort. A lot of people thought Voldemort would come back as a ghost because he was afraid of death, but Jo mentioned in a post-DH interview that he didn't. he moved on, but she didn't say where.

I think LV's soul was so damaged that he was unable to remain as a ghost. He certainly had the requisite fear of death to qualify.

[horcrux4]

Originally Posted by MerryLore

I can't imagine a body being allowed to decompose in a public place. They moved him. He was probably buried in a small plot next to his parents, assuming they're dead as well.

I think his parents must have been dead as he was living by himself (apart from Wormtail) at Spinners End and I assume that was his family home.

Jo was fond of killing off the 'grandparent' generation wasn't she? James & Lily's parents were both dead, Sirius' and one assumes Snape's. Considering wizards/witches are supposed to live longer than Muggles, that seems quite a lot of people who should have been in the 60/70 age group to die.