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Old July 24th, 2007, 2:55 am
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Foul Language in DH

In the past, JK has said that her editors wouldn't really let Harry or Ron curse. However, in this book, the boys have dirty mouths. Even Hermione and Mrs.Weasley let a few choice words out. It doesn't really bother me, but I thought it was weird that there was so much in this book. Although, it is very fitting, and I'm glad it was i there.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:02 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

Well, the characters are older, and beyond that, the circumstances are much more stressful than in previous books. Frankly, I think it would be very unbelievable if they didn't swear a little. JKR chose the words carefully and I didn't feel it was gratuitous at all; it added to the drama of the moment and was more an aspect of the characters than anything else.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:04 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

Mrs Weasley calling Bellatrix a ***** = pure literary genius.
I thought the swearing in the book was fitting, the kids are older, times are darker, therefore their mouths are fouler.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:08 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

I don't mind the swearing at all. It makes the characters a lot more real, because that's just the way 17 year olds talk. Sometimes I dislike, in previous books, when it says, "Ron used a word that would have made Mrs. Weasley's head roll" or something like that. It's too obvious that it's only protecting the young ears.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:29 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

To be fair, there are only like, two swear words in the entire book. It surprised me, but in the real world, swearing is often the best way to really release your emotion at something. So it fits that Mrs. Weasley would call Bellatrix a ***** when she was attacking her daughter.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:31 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

While it doesn't actually bother me, it just felt a little odd, given that throughout the rest of the series she took a lot of care to exclude them by just stating that someone swore or having Hermione frown at Ron, then suddenly having it quite a lot in this book. But yeah, like others have said, people do tend to do it more as they grow older.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:36 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

Oh, there were definitely quite a number of swear words in this book: there was effing, *****, arse. I was really surprised by Mrs. Weasley's line. This was the best line in the entire book but I was still surprised. The kids are older and Ron's been swearing a lot since POA.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:40 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

Hermione's swearing incident didn't register for me...

But I have to agree with MaddyMarauder: Mrs. Weasley's line made me laugh out loud. Thank you, Molly, for seeing to the heart of the matter. If anyone ever deserved the epithet, Bellatrix did.

But all in all the language wasn't really worse than in the other books. I'm not a fan of swearing in literature, I feel it cheapens a work. But it doesn't bother me to read that the characters swear as long as Jo doesn't subject us to their phrases. Jo (or her editors, at any rate) have always done well at being mindful of their audience. This time 'round it didn't seem so much like a disregard for the children, but rather a reflection on the aging of the characters and the stress of the circumstances.



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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:41 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

I thought the language was proper. They are teenagers ready to enter the real world and are at war. Molly fearing the life of her only daughter is the perfect reason to swear.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:00 am
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...does not impact the quality of the story.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:01 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

I thought the swearing in the books was a bit distracting, only because they were censored (atleast in the US editions...). It bothered me that they would say things like "effing" and "arse" instead of the actual word they were implying. But then again - HP is labeled as a chrildren's story so...hmm. Was it like this for every version, or do they use the actual words they are implying in other editions?

But the Molly scene completely did it for me! I couldn't stop laughing when she said that. I was so cheering her on after that. haha.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:03 am
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Molly's line to Bellatrix was absolute gold.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:05 am
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In the words of Harry, “Oi! There’s a war going on here!"

But it didn't really bother me that much. It actually got annoying reading Jo's excuses for not putting in swearwords, like BelleSnowyOwl said above.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:06 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

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It bothered me that they would say things like "effing" and "arse" instead of the actual word they were implying.
effing is fairly commonly used and arse is the word it was implying.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:43 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

I loved the swearing, especially What Molly said to Bella, it was one of the best lines in the book.

And arse just means *** (can i say that)


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I thought it was very realistic. And some of it was funny. Loved when Molly called Bellatrix a *****!!!


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:46 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

I thought the swearing was great... in more reserved countries, I would say it would be considered swearing.. but in others... it's part of everyday language...

I also loved Molly's line.. throughout the series, she is seen as someone with a towering temper and not to be messed with... we finally get to see her go in with spells blazing!!!!

Also.. if you look closely.. there is a lot of swearing references in the series... But in the first few... the swearing is cut off by someone interupting or JK simply puts the first letter and then lines... e.g. Lee Jordan with the magical megaphone "You filthy Cheating B----" is how it is written in the book...

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effing is fairly commonly used and arse is the word it was implying.
sorry... effing... is the phonetic spelling of "F-ing"... I'm sure you can fill in the "You See Kay" after the F to get the whole word it is means...
(sorry mods.. I didn't actually say /type it)

If you don't believe me... try a search for 'effing' on dictionary.com

Mr Dursley has been saying effing since ootp....



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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:51 am
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It detracted from the story to say the least. Especially Mrs. Weasley.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:51 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

The most memorable was probably Mrs. Weasley because it was at the end, but I remember Aberforth calling his sister's attackers "b******s", and that stood out for me quite well.

As for JK using all those words in the book, I like to think that she made a compromise with her editors to save their usage for this last book xp


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:59 am
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Re: Foul Language in DH

bless molly really i had wanted tocall bella that for al ong time...idont aprove that use of language really but this one i loved it,had me laughing in the middle of a lot of crying,bless molly and jk.


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