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Old March 6th, 2008, 9:54 pm
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How do you differ Wurst (like Würstchen you eat with Ketchup) and Wurst (the one you put on the breat, Leberwurst, Schinkenwurst etc) in English?


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Old March 6th, 2008, 9:59 pm
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Isn't that done by differentiating between cold meat and sausages? Not sure here though.


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Old March 6th, 2008, 10:22 pm
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hmmm..... I am not sure whether the cold variety is native to Britain. All the ones I come across in the supermarket are labelled in some foreign language - salami, chorizo and so forth.

Leberwurst is 'pate' I think. (that's with an accent on the e, but I am too lazy to find that now, sorry)

I dunno - cold meat just isn't eaten in the same way here as it is in Germany - you mostly get it in fairly thick slices, and it is more likely to be actual cold meat (ham, roast beef, etc) than cold sausage.

But perhaps my experience of this isn't typical - just what I sseemed to have picked up in the 12 years I have spent in different parts of the UK....


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Isn't cold meat = Aufschnitt, so more the general term?


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Old March 6th, 2008, 10:34 pm
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Yep. But sometimes there is no 1:1 translation based on cultural differences. I've never seen a Brit having a Leberwurstbrot for breakfast.


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Sounds like the reasonable explanation from you two.


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I dunno - cold meat just isn't eaten in the same way here as it is in Germany - you mostly get it in fairly thick slices, and it is more likely to be actual cold meat (ham, roast beef, etc) than cold sausage.
Same in the US. It is more likely to be actual cold meat than sausage. We sometimes refer to it as lunch meat and it includes things like cold slices of ham, roast beef, turkey, and bologna (which personally I wouldnt consider meat, but I digress.)

As for leberwurst, in the States its just referred to as liverwurst, or liver sausage. Although not quite common, and I dont think I've ever heard of any Americans having it for breakfast either.


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Germans actually eat ham also quite often (speaking of cold meat), just we call all this stuff 'Wurst' (sausage). Mostly at least.


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Ok I see ... it's complicated.

I just wondered what I should tell them if I wanted to eat a Wurstbrot.


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Old March 6th, 2008, 10:56 pm
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Germans actually eat ham also quite often (speaking of cold meat), just we call all this stuff 'Wurst' (sausage). Mostly at least.
Oh I know, I'm German as well

I guess it is just a bit complicated


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Old March 6th, 2008, 10:57 pm
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Ok I see ... it's complicated.

I just wondered what I should tell them if I wanted to eat a Wurstbrot.
Call it a German sandwich.


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Re: German / Deutsch

Sounds good to me! On this note I will have my German-English sandwich in a moment: British bread and British cured ham prepared in the German way with a nice leaf of salad!


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The only British bread I ever had did not deserve the title.


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@Moriath: That's why I called my sandwich a "German-English sandwich". Some of the bread is all right, you have to look for it. Sandwich si generally called "Butterbrot" in German, but that doesn't mean that there has to be any butter on it.


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Old March 7th, 2008, 5:14 pm
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The bread in this country has improved a lot in recent years.... I spent 1994/5 in Scotland, and at that point it was impossible to get anything that deserved the name....

But if you go to a bakery and avoid bread from supermarkets (especially the pre-packed, pre-sliced variety) you'll be fine. Some supermarkets do, however, have speciality dark/sour bread that some Germans seem to prefer. I am Austrian and can't really deal with that stuff (pumpernickel) very well, to be honest - so I never quite suffered the same sort of agony that a pumpernikel-shaped hole in your life can apparently cause....



Tenshi, I think the best strategy for any foreign country is not to expect any of the food to be like what you have at home. Try to go with the flow and you'll find stuff that's new and good.... an imitation of food from home is inevitably going to be a disappointment anyway.

As long as you just stay ofr a few days or weeks that should do nicely. If you stay for long enough to get accommodation with your own kitchen you'll learn very quickly to produce acceptable substitutes for kinds of food you miss from back home. There have been very few Austrian food items that I found impossible to get (or make from basic ingredients) in the UK, although whenever I have moved it always took me a few weeks to locate shops that sold various rare items....


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Yeah I already expect not to get the bread we have here. And I would survive it without a problem.


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I dont know about the bread in Britain, but American white bread is terrible, as is the pre-packaged sliced wheat bread. But if you find a good bakery, you might get lucky.


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gipro, I think that the small business infrastructure is still better here in the UK than it is in the states (at least outside some cities, especially in CA and along the east coast).... and for good bread you want a family run bakery.


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Re: German / Deutsch

Let's leave the bread now and get back on topic. Which can be done by considering the classical story about "Wie Rübezahl den Bäcker straffte".

It happens that people who don't stay on topic suffers the same destiny ...


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I'd love to know how Rübezahl the baker tightened.

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