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Old March 11th, 2006, 12:31 pm
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Re: So you want to speak Italian

I have question for anyone who is italian and lives in Rome, and this seems to be the best place to ask. Sorry if I am intruding on anything. I wanted to know; what is the significance of having gelato, or ice cream, at the Piazza de Espagne (the Spanish Steps)? It's something that came up in an anime I watched and having never been to Rome myself, I haven't a clue.


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Old March 11th, 2006, 4:45 pm
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I have question for anyone who is italian and lives in Rome, and this seems to be the best place to ask. Sorry if I am intruding on anything. I wanted to know; what is the significance of having gelato, or ice cream, at the Piazza de Espagne (the Spanish Steps)? It's something that came up in an anime I watched and having never been to Rome myself, I haven't a clue.
Piazza di Spagna is one of Romes most beautiful square's which has the famed Spanish Steps. A lot of turists and Romans sit on them to watch other people go by..except me as I'm in a wheelchair, but that's another story It is especially beautiful in the Spring when they put big vases of pink/red flowers at the ends of all the steps. Any google image search of Piazza di Spagna will show you this. I don't think there is a specific significance (at least I've never heard about one) of eating ice cream there apart from the fact that there are many places that sells it there, and the ice-cream is generally very good, and what better way to pass the time watching other people walking by in one of Italy's most famous square's eating a yummy ice-cream.


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Old March 11th, 2006, 7:38 pm
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I love it Italy ...

Once my little brothers are older, my dad says we're going to take a trip there. I can't wait. I'll get to test-out my Italian.

Can anyone explain how you can say, "I have gone to the movies"?

I know it's something like, "Avetto andando al cinema," or something, but I haven't actually learned this in school, just read it online and it's bugging me.

I guess what I want explained is how can you say you have done something? Also, is it hard to put a verb into the past tense? Lastly, is there a specific way to make an adjective an adverb (example: quick --> quickly; veloce --> ??)


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Old March 11th, 2006, 9:26 pm
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I love it Italy ...
I guess what I want explained is how can you say you have done something? Also, is it hard to put a verb into the past tense? Lastly, is there a specific way to make an adjective an adverb (example: quick --> quickly; veloce --> ??)
It is quite hard for strangers, because it's quite different from english past tense! We use the "passato prossimo" and it is formed by the verbes "to be" or "to have" and a form called "participio" of the verb you want to use...it is quite hard to explain...I make some examples:

"I have gone to movies"= "Sono andato (or andata, femm. form) al cinema" ("sono" is a form of "to be")
"I have eaten an apple"= "Ho mangiato una mela" ("ho" is a form of "to have")

Not so easy...

For adverbs, we haven't a specific way ...quickly is velocemente, and some times the rule is adjective+"mente"...but this isn't a real rule...


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Old March 11th, 2006, 10:21 pm
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So, I could say, "Ho vedeto il cane" for "I have seen the dog"?

Sono = I am / They are, right? So how does it mean "I have" in your first example?


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Old March 12th, 2006, 5:05 am
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Thanks for the explanation YellowRose. You've made me really want to go there now. It sounds enchanting.


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Old March 12th, 2006, 8:19 am
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So, I could say, "Ho vedeto il cane" for "I have seen the dog"?
That would be 'Ho visto il cane'. 'Visto' is the passato prossimo of the verb 'vedere'.




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Thanks for the explanation YellowRose. You've made me really want to go there now. It sounds enchanting.
Great. It's well worth a visit


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Old March 12th, 2006, 11:45 am
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Re: So you want to speak Italian

Is this an ok place to ask when going to italy what are the must sees?
Sorry if its not


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Old March 12th, 2006, 12:05 pm
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Is this an ok place to ask when going to italy what are the must sees?
Hard question...
In Italy there are so many beautiful places...
Obviously, you must visit Rome, particularly the centre of it...then there is Venice that is a wonderful and very peculiar city...Florence too is wonderful...
But, as I said, every italian town have something that must be seen!


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Old March 12th, 2006, 12:08 pm
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Well i suppose i'll have to try and get everywhere!


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Old March 12th, 2006, 12:12 pm
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This would be a wonderful idea !!!
But I think that during your first visit, you should go to Rome, Venice and Florence...


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Old March 12th, 2006, 5:54 pm
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I heard that there's a castle in Torino that's absolutely beautiful. A minister/prince of some sort lives there and you can stay in it. It's called Castello Carivale (or something, I really don't know).

How do you learn the 'passati prossimi?' Is there a standard way of doing it?


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Old March 13th, 2006, 2:26 pm
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How do you learn the 'passati prossimi?' Is there a standard way of doing it?
There isn't a real rule...it's something like the irregular verbes in English...you learn them when you speak, read, listen Italian language!


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Old March 13th, 2006, 8:13 pm
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That's going to take a lot of work for me. Are there many irregular passati prossimi?


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Old March 14th, 2006, 10:34 am
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That's going to take a lot of work for me. Are there many irregular passati prossimi?
What you should ask is "is there any regular "passato prossimo" ?
Well...many of them end with "-ato"...

For example:
Parlare (to speak) => parlato
Mangiare (to eat) => mangiato
Giocare (to play) => giocato

...or with "ito"...
For example:
Partire (to leave) => partito
Dormire (to sleep) => dormito
Sentire (to listen) => sentito

So a rule could be: when the verbe end with "-are", the passato prossimo end with "-ato", when the verbe end with "-ire" the passato prossimo end with "-ito"...but there are exceptions....for example:

Fare (to make, to do) => fatto (not "facato" or "faciato")
Dire (to tell) => detto (not "dicito"...quite funny sound ^^!!)

Moreover, there are many verbes that end with "-ere" and the pass. pross. don't end with "-eto"...

For example:
Vedere (to see) => visto (not "vedeto")
Sedere (to sit down) => seduto (not "sedeto)
Volere (to want) => Voluto (not "voleto")

As I said, I think that to read, to listen, to speak Italian is the best way to learn it...I think you should come and stay in Italy for some months!


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Old March 14th, 2006, 10:39 am
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Re: So you want to speak Italian

*JAW DROPS*


How did I miss this topic?
Aww, it makes me feel all warm inside since I'm italian, from Milan.
*psst! If you visit Italy, you have to visit Milan as well, it's a must!*



If any more questions come up, I'll try to help


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Old March 14th, 2006, 11:03 am
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Ooooh, un'altra italiana! Evviva! Magari mi dai una mano a spiegare come si usa il passato prossimo ^^!!! I have visited Milan three times, but I saw principally one thing: San Siro, tha stade of my beloved team, the great Milan ^^!!!


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Old March 14th, 2006, 11:09 am
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Italiana e milanista!
I think we'll have NO problem getting along


FORZA MILAN!


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FORZA MILAN!




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Juventines here too, oh man, Juventines here too!



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