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Old February 9th, 2007, 1:55 am
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I think the Lupin/Tonks relationship is the doomed one meself! Tonks has more to stay alive for somehow- she belongs to the 'present' which Harry inhabits, but Lupin belongs to the 'past' era when he was with sirius and james, and now he just seems to be lingering on after they've gone. D'you get what I mean? I can't see a future for him- he's lived too much already. I think he'll go, possibly taking pettigrew with him.
Is nearly forty years too much? He was the lone survivor of 1981 for thirteen years and managed, he as Harry has lived a tortured life even if we don't include the werewolf. As much as I love Tonks I think she is more likely to die, though hopefully not tripping in battle. Though I think that Jo owes Lupin a chance at a happy life more than a few moments with a brooding Sirius and therefore Remus/Tonks shall prevail.
The only way I see One Big Weasley Family not becoming sickenly cheesy is if tragedy strikes that will not be washed away with the end of the war, this is another reason I think Molly will die. Her death of all the Weasleys will be the greatest impact, though as unholy as it seems a Weasley child must die I just hope it won't be Fred or George because everyone needs a laugh and whoevers left behind even more so.


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Old February 9th, 2007, 2:26 am
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I think that either Remus or Hagrid got the reprieve. I sure hope it's Remus! And that Tonks dies! (Remus is MINE!)


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Old February 9th, 2007, 7:03 am
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The Percy storyline does need to have closure somehow...I feel that somehow Percy will be redeemed. Somehow. I don't know if that'll result in his death or not.

Losing the twins'd be sad. But they will not go down without a fight. The two of them and Ginny, if I were to fight them, I'd want powerful backup. Each of the Weasleys is strong in some way, but somehow I see those being the best at fighting. Ginny was a 5th year holding her own against a fully grown death eater, and she's already bested Draco, too. And her brothers are kind of afraid of her bat-bogey hex. Fred and George would also be tough to battle, especially because I see them being so in tune with each other that they're the perfect backup for each other.
I agree with this totally. Fred and George have always shown that they are not afraid. They want to fight. They may be entrepreneurs, but they, unlike Percy, will always put Family and what's important first, and they have a good deal of common sense (which Percy doesn't, he has a good sense of self). If they go, I hope they take a lot of death eaters with them. It's been noted in the books that Ginny, in obstinate moments, looks like the twins around the jaw. They're fighters, unwilling to back down, and may go down fighting.


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Old February 9th, 2007, 10:19 am
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Re: Book Seven: Who Will Live and Who Will Die? v4

I obviously hope that all of the trio will survive, but I believe there is some support for sucha wish. Harry simply can't die, if he were to die then I would be extremely disappointed, like I always do if the protagonist dies - it just ends the book, and the series, on such a low that I would just spontaneously combust from disappointment. As for Ron and Hermione, they are a young couple, and to deny them a lifetime together would be unbearably cruel, even for JKR.

Some people that I believe will die however are Hagrid and Snape and possibly a few other majoy characters like Lupin, Wormtail, McGonagall, and plenty of Aurors and Death Eaters. Voldemort is a certainty.


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Old February 9th, 2007, 12:02 pm
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Re: Book Seven: Who Will Live and Who Will Die? v4

Voldermort will most definetely die.

I think one of the Weasley's will die too, I have a feeling maybe Ginny will die. I don't think Harry is destined to kill Voldermort and suddenly his life is 100% better, I think it'll be a few years before he is fully happy again.

Who else? Bellatrix, Snape maybe (although I hope not, but if he does die, I think it'll be saving Harry's life).

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Old February 9th, 2007, 3:56 pm
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Re: Book Seven: Who Will Live and Who Will Die? v4

Guessing here, but the gut reaction to JKR's finish suggests to me that she was not surprised by any of the DH deaths, and the ones she wrote she had previously prepared for.

Start with the obvious toasties:

Voldemort - because evil must die, even if another rises later
Bellatrix - the most unredeemable of the DE's
Wormtail/Pettigrew - he's murdered people and done all kinds of bad things, although I think he will help Harry in DH.
Fenrir - a monster to be put down
Lucius Malfoy - a useless, bumbling failure, he may be killed by LV.


Unfortunately, some students will also die:
Dean Thomas, Terry Boot, Morag McDougal, Justin Finch-Fletchley and Ernie Macmillan (these two will die together in a way we will all cry to read), and Theodore Nott are my candidates. Unfortunately, all these deaths by students mean that Hogwarts will be a battlefield again.

The trio (Harry, Ron, Hermione) will survive.

Of the professors, I am unsure, but certainly two or three will go.

I think LV may kill Narcissa, which would orphan Draco and give him strong motive to fight against LV alongside Harry.

I am quite certain that Neville, Hagrid, Arthur Weasley, all the Weasley children except Percy, and Tonks will survive.

I will be quite upset if Molly Weasley dies, but as it is one possibility that no one has ever considered in the books, I worry that it could happen.

I could see Snape dying, but only if he is on Harry's side.


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Old February 9th, 2007, 7:49 pm
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I think neville will die. He is likeable and has been built up to a point, but was missing alot from book 6. I think JKR did that so in book 7 he won't be missed much, because the focus is on Harry's journey, not Neville's. He probably will die a noble death, so that his friends and his fans can feel that it was justified.

JkR has already killed off 2 of Harry's top 4 people. I don't think she will have a problem with neville.


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Old February 9th, 2007, 7:59 pm
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Re: Book Seven: Who Will Live and Who Will Die? v4

harry will die for certain


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I don't know much about anyone else, but my mind keeps telling me Harry (and Voldemort of course). It's just something that I feel really strongly about. I don't know why, but I think it would make a good ending to the book.

Also, Bellatrix. Neville's going to kill her. I just know it. Wouldn't that be awesome?



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Old February 9th, 2007, 9:59 pm
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Hmm....Well, I don't there will be a full-out massacre, because the way J.K. seems to be writing the books is in a kill-one-off-at-a-time sort off thing. But I think that a few major or supporting characters will die.

Voldemort-This is totally obvious, unless J.K. leaves us in the ditch and makes it Harry Potter and Les Miserables or something. Voldemort living would mean Harry dying without fullfilling the prophecy and that would totally suck.
Snape-No, I don't think little Snape will die. He's too strong a person to just be killed off. On the other hand, he could die for someone, (Harry, Voldemort, Lily. Has no one else thought that maybe Snape had a crush on Lily?)
Draco Malfoy-Judging by Draco's indecision and "weakness" during The Lightning Struck Tower, I'm guessing that he'll be killed by the end of the series. Most probably by Voldemort, but Harry seems to be growing more and more hostile towards Draco, so he could possibly kill him, but that would defy all his...courage and stuff.
Kingsley Shacklebolt-Strong and silent, he'll probably die to save someone like Harry or possibly Arthur Weasley. They seem to be pretty good friends.
Neville Longbottom-During the first few books, Nevills seems to be Harry's exact opposite, but in the last two he has become more courageous and definitely more noble. He'll probably die for someone. Ooh, that's a sad thought. *hugs Neville*
Harry-This would definitely be quite the closer, and it's not totally out-ruled. He could possibly have to kill himself and Voldemort simultaneously to save the Muggle and Wizarding World, and I would definitely admire J.K. more if she did kill off the main character.

There might be a few others, such as Hagrid or Prof. McGonagall, but not many. A massacre at the end of seven books would make J.K.s book-sales sky-rocket, but I don't think she'll decend that low.


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Old February 9th, 2007, 11:02 pm
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Some people that I believe will die however are Hagrid and Snape and possibly a few other majoy characters like Lupin, Wormtail, McGonagall, and plenty of Aurors and Death Eaters. Voldemort is a certainty.

If wormtail dies, i'm pretty sure it will be because of some trying to save harry-ness or showing some sort of weakness towards harry. in PoA when Dumbledore said that Voldemort would regret, or not want, a servant indebted to harry, that was a serious bit of foreshadowing. I doubt that will be during the climactic battle, as wormtail has since been eclipsed by other more important characters, but it could easily happen earlier.


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I had been thinking Tonks and Lupin would die. I still feel Tonks for sure. About Remus. He is the last of the maraudeers. Now I'm beginning to think he got a reprieve. It would be sad if it happened, seperating Remus and Tonks, but I think JKR decided to gvie Remus another chance. If Remus survives, then I think Harry will.

I still feel Hagrid will die. I now also think Neville will survive and become a teacher. Ron and Hermione is a given. Both will survive. Same with Ginny and Harry. I think JKR planned Snape to live. The only way to get Ginny in the plot more is to kill one or both of her parents. So there is a possiblity of a death of either Molly or Arthur.



I still feel Hagrid will die.


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I think either Hagrid or Remus will die. One or the other. People have been betting on Hagrid since GoF, and Remmy is the last of the Marauders. I think one of them got the reprieve because it would be too cruel to kill them both.

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I don't think Neville is going to kill Bella. Killing is the supreme act of evil. Killing rips the soul apart. I doubt any of the teens - except possibly Harry - are going to kill anyone.

I think Neville and Luna will live because it'd be too mean to kill them off.

Oh, the Trio. They're all going to live. I believe Jo slipped up in NYC last summer and there's also the unconfirmed story the girl who worked at the bookstore in Naperville telling Emerson that Jo said they'd all live before she got really famous. And Ron is the least likely to die.
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JKR: "It's great to hear feedback from the kids. Mostly they are really worried about Ron. As if I'm going to kill Harry's best friend."
"As of I'd kill Harry's best friend." Ron's definitely safe. Also, it's too obvious. Everyone is saying that Ron's going to die. Not going to happen. As for Harry and Hermione, they're not going to die either. Jo doesn't have the heart to do it. Everyone would completely freak out if Hermione was killed. I actually think it would be awesome if Harry died, but it's not going to happen. Jo doesn't have the heart to do it. It's not like she was sitting on the train thinking, "Oh, I've got this great idea for a story: It's about a kid who has an absolutely miserable life and then dies!" And yes, I stole that off the Leaky Mug.

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Remus and Wormtail both seem candidates to die, given that the marauders seem to be dying young, but I agree - Remus is a prime candidate for the reprieve. He and Hagrid are the two top reprieve candidates on the "good" side.
On the bad side (reprieve): Narcissa...Draco...really, not too many good candidates on the DE side. Lucius, maybe...I really don't know.


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I still feel Hagrid will die.
I hope Hagrid won't die. I hope he'll be able to do magic so he won't die.

I think Narcissa will die.


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Hate to say it but possibly Mr or Mrs Weasley or like everyone says Luna maybe even Neville? as long as Voldy dies I'll be one happy girl


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Old February 10th, 2007, 4:12 pm
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I think Hedwigs done for...sad but true. Neville I think will live, why make such a point of showing his improvement just to kill him off? Hagrid's a goner as well as Narcissa. I can see Bellatrix living and her being a threat post Voldemort. Greyback must die.


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and there's also the unconfirmed story the girl who worked at the bookstore in Naperville telling Emerson that Jo said they'd all live before she got really famous.
*gasp* Iīve never heard of that one. Pity it is unconfirmed.

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And Ron is the least likely to die. "As of I'd kill Harry's best friend." Ron's definitely safe. Also, it's too obvious. Everyone is saying that Ron's going to die.
Exactly. Itīs too obvious. None of the deaths so far have been so obvious and so much hinted at.

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Well, I donīt think JKR has plotted out the whole story on that train ride on the first day, but I donīt think Harry will die either.


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Exactly. Itīs too obvious. None of the deaths so far have been so obvious and so much hinted at.

Well, I donīt think JKR has plotted out the whole story on that train ride on the first day, but I donīt think Harry will die either.

actually, i thought dumbledore's death was incredibly obvious. He was harry's biggest protector, and harry needed to learn to stand up on his own.

and JKR did say she had an epiphany on the train in which many characters and plot lines came to her.


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Re: Book Seven: Who Will Live and Who Will Die? v4

I suppose Harry's going to die at the end of Deathly Hallows. He might live in the end though, I have a tiny box of hope in me for letting harry stay alive. I hope voldemort dies in the end and peace can go back to the wizarding world.


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