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Old February 20th, 2007, 1:54 am
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I Have always wonderd weather narcisa malfoy is a death eater. Her husband and son are. I think she may be . But we have evidence of this other than close ties to known death eaters:
1. married to lucius malfoy a known death eater-Azkaban
2. Mother of draco malfoy a suspected death eater-unkown
3. freinds with bellatrix a known death eater-unknown
4. Unbeakable vow with severus snape a suspected death eater-unkown



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Old February 20th, 2007, 2:04 am
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Re: Is Narccisa Malfoy a Death eater

I don't think she is a death eater because she wasn't at the ministry with the rest of the free death eaters in OOTP. She was also not present in the graveyard scene in GOF with Lucius and the rest of them. If she was a death eater she would have been punished for Lucius' mistake in the hall of prophecy seeing that she is his wife. I don't think it is possible to know if Draco was made a death eater before or after the ministry incident. I believe Draco was made a death eater after his father was taken to Azkaban, but Narcissa would have had to pay a price higher than watching her son be put in danger by Voldemort.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 2:09 am
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Levicorpus827, you have a point there. But I think that Narccisa might be in a troubled state in DH. Husband in jail, son a criminal in the eyes of the ministry, she may have two thoughts-either join Voldemort to try and protect her family, or join hands with the ministry to try and free her family!


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Old February 20th, 2007, 2:50 am
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Re: Is Narccisa Malfoy a Death eater

Narcissa isn't listed in the list of Death Eaters on the Lexicon, and I've searched but can't find any evidence of her being a DE other than her somewhat suspicious contacts- although most of those are family.

She took the Unbreakable Vow with Snape, not because she was after something evil, but because she has a mother's love for her son and wanted to save his life, even at the cost of another's.

I doubt that she is a Death Eater, but I suppose time shall tell.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 2:56 am
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Yeah, the points Levi makes would almost have to indicate that Narcissa is not a Death Eater. She would have had to have been present in both the graveyard scene in GOF and the Ministry in OOTF. I think at most she knows a number of Death Eaters (maybe not all of them), and is complacent to their actions.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 3:04 am
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Either she is a Death Eater or she is a supporter of Voldemort. Think about it, Voldemort has told her something in the sixth, and warned her not to tell anyone. This would make it seem as if she is in close league with the Dark side. Snape even warns her that she should not be loose with those sorts of details and her sister warns her that Snape might not have the complete trust of their master. There are definately connections...I've started talking myself in circles. I guess I would say that she is not to be trusted by the Order in any form but she does have a form of love in her heart leading one to believe she is not completely lost.

On the same idea, she is being punished by Voldemort in the way that would hurt a mother most of all, her husband is gone and her son is on a suicide mission...that would be the most painful thing a mother could go through, being alone with very few options to help her son.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 3:22 am
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Either she is a Death Eater or she is a supporter of Voldemort. Think about it, Voldemort has told her something in the sixth, and warned her not to tell anyone. This would make it seem as if she is in close league with the Dark side. Snape even warns her that she should not be loose with those sorts of details and her sister warns her that Snape might not have the complete trust of their master. There are definately connections...I've started talking myself in circles. I guess I would say that she is not to be trusted by the Order in any form but she does have a form of love in her heart leading one to believe she is not completely lost.

On the same idea, she is being punished by Voldemort in the way that would hurt a mother most of all, her husband is gone and her son is on a suicide mission...that would be the most painful thing a mother could go through, being alone with very few options to help her son.
For any normal mother the thought of their son in danger is terrible. Narcissa does love Draco, but Voldemort does not understand love. I believe he is inadvertently punished Narcissa by putting Draco in danger, but has not punished her in the sense that she failed him as a death eater. Even after Voldemort was reduced to a piece of soul he still did not fully understand the power of a mother's love for her son in part because he never knew his mother, and because he has only ever known pain. All of the punishments Voldemort has given to his death eaters thus far have been through physical pain. I don't believe Voldemort would think to use Draco as a means to punish Narcissa because of his ignorance about love. Even if Narcissa is a death eater she has not failed him. If she is a death eater and was not mentioned in the GOF graveyard scene then her punishment would have come much earlier. Voldemort does not have any other reason to punish Narcissa.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 3:28 am
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Re: Is Narccisa Malfoy a Death eater

I think that Voldy has people working for him who aren't DE's. For instance, the giants and many of the werewolves aren't DE's. Additionally, I think that with some exceptions (for instance, Draco), people forced to do the DE's bidding aren't necessarily DE's. So, it's quite possible to me that Narcissa isn't a DE, but she is doing their bidding. Or at least she's trying to protect her son from death; and that's close enough in my book.

I don't think she's a DE; I think she's one of the witches and wizards forced to do Voldy's bidding without being a DE.

I think Bella and Narcissa are sisters, yes?



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Old February 20th, 2007, 3:49 am
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Re: Is Narccisa Malfoy a Death eater

I don't really think she is a deatheater. For one thing she didn't come the first night LV was back.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 3:56 am
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Re: Is Narccisa Malfoy a Death eater

While it seems likely, since a lot of relatives and people close to her are Death Eaters, she doesn't strike me as one. I think she is a pureblood supremist and thinks Lord Voldemort has the right idea, she's probably not a Death Eater. The way I look at it is a sort of pattern. Bellatrix is a Death Eater, all out fanatical supporter of her Lord, then there was Andromeda, who obviously was no, since she married a Muggleborn wizard, then there is their sister Narcissa, she's probably somewhere inbetween. Like she supports Voldemort's ideas, but doesn't go all out like Bella and become a Death Eater.

On the other hand, IF she is a Death Eater, then it's probably for the same reasons I believe Lucius is one. . .to save his and his family's hides, to keep on Voldemort's 'good side'.

I myself, personally, don't think she is one. She probably just does Voldemort's bidding because of her association (i.e. Bella, Lucius, etc.) That's just my opinion, though.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 4:08 am
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Re: Is Narccisa Malfoy a Death eater

I don't think so although she probably thinks he has the right idea. She most likely also thinks he goes to far. I think she is a bit kinder than the rest of the Malfoys.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 4:14 am
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Re: Is Narccisa Malfoy a Death eater

i think that she supports the death eaters, but she's not one her self.
i kind of feel like voldy doesn't take alot of women. as far as we know, bellatrix lestrange is the only one. you don't see all of the other death eater's wives out there, like crabbe and goyle or nott or anyone. i think they support them, but they don't really partake in very many of the de activities.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 4:26 am
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as far as we know, bellatrix lestrange is the only one.
Actually, there is at least one other one that we know about. She participated in the Battle of the Tower in HBP. Her name is Alecto and some believe her to be the sister of another DE, and some believe her to have the surname Carrows. Snape referes to the Carrows as escaping Azkaban the first time around.

I do not believe Narcissa to be a DE. I don't know why she would have been aware of Voldemort's plans in HBP, but I don't think her to be one. She has never fought in any battle, nor has there ever been reference to her being a DE.


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Old February 20th, 2007, 4:28 am
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Actually, there is at least one other one that we know about. She participated in the Battle of the Tower in HBP. Her name is Alecto and some believe her to be the sister of another DE, and some believe her to have the surname Carrows. Snape referes to the Carrows as escaping Azkaban the first time around.
ooh, you're right...forgot about that one.

i think i'll go re-read hbp now =]


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Old February 20th, 2007, 4:30 am
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ooh, you're right...forgot about that one.

i think i'll go re-read hbp now =]
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i think that she supports the death eaters, but she's not one her self.
i kind of feel like voldy doesn't take alot of women. as far as we know, bellatrix lestrange is the only one. you don't see all of the other death eater's wives out there, like crabbe and goyle or nott or anyone. i think they support them, but they don't really partake in very many of the de activities.
Alecto is also another female Death Eater, but yeah, there are so few female DE's. Two is still not a very impressive number either.

Edit: Darn my slow computer lol, don't mean to post this point a second time. Sorry


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Old February 20th, 2007, 5:43 pm
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Voldemort has told her something in the sixth, and warned her not to tell anyone. This would make it seem as if she is in close league with the Dark side. Snape even warns her that she should not be loose with those sorts of details and her sister warns her that Snape might not have the complete trust of their master.
My gut feeling - she is not a DE. I do not think she has what it takes... not enough hate or desire for power. She's has one certain emotion that I think hinders her ability to be a death eater and that is love. She obviously loves Draco very much. And despite everything else, you have to give her credit for the ability to love.
I do have to wonder why Voldemort personally talked to her. I always thought he just talked to his DE and everyone else only talked to him right before he killed them. Guess I was wrong, unless Cissy really is a DE but I highly doubt it.

She supports Voldemort and what he is doing... or alteast she has up to HBP. After seeing her husband sent to Azkaban and her son on the run, I'm not sure that will be the case in the last book. I would assume that she does what Voldemort and the DE tell her to do. And that is probably the way that she has been brought up since she was a little girl... but might we see a change in Cissy since her world does seem to be turned upside down at the moment??
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I believe he is inadvertently punished Narcissa by putting Draco in danger, but has not punished her in the sense that she failed him as a death eater.
I thought that Voldemort was intending to punish Lucius. Whether Narcissa is or isn't a DE, I doubt that anything she has done played into Voldemort's desires to give Draco the mission to kill Dumbledore.


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I think that Narcissa has some good in her. I think the unbreakable vow thing, was just an act of motherly love, and I think that she's married to Lucius just because she's in it for the money. I think she likes beautiful things, living in luxury et cetera. I get the idea that she doesn't care one snit about Voldemort and whether he fails or succeeds.


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I don't think so although she probably thinks he has the right idea. She most likely also thinks he goes to far. I think she is a bit kinder than the rest of the Malfoys.

A bit kinder?? i am not sure of the direct quote but she said something along the lines of "you will be reuinited with sirius before i am reunited with my husband." to harry at the beginning of HbP. Not sure how kind she is. If she is not a death eater she is as close as you can get without actually bearing the dark mark on her arm. BUT...... i do think that somehow some way she will have her best interest at heart and her sons and try to join the order in exchange for valuable info. You can tell that she was somehow stuck in the situation with Voldy because of her husband...although she is not a particularly nice person, she does have her and her sons best interests at heart. And as we clearly see at the end of HbP Draco is just a huge skinny pale teddy bear!


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Old February 20th, 2007, 6:35 pm
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Oh, I definitely believe she is a Death Eater. Just because she wasn't at the MOM or at The Graveyard doesn't mean she isn't. Remember she has made some really cruel remarks and almost got kicked out of a store for using derogatory terms when talking about Muggles in HBP. Plus she has all the makings of a Death Eater:

1. All members in her Family(minus Sirius Black) became Death Eaters.
2. Her Sister, Bellatrix is a Death Eater and was once Voldemort's "most trusted' Death Eater.
3. Lucius Malfoy, her HUSBAND is a Death Eater.
4. Draco Malfoy is a Death Eater, even if he was made one to "Punish" Lucius for his faux paux at the MOM.
5. She also talked of Voldemort's plans which supposedly were confidential with Severus Snape who at one time was a Death Eater. She also took the Unbreakable Vow with him.
Since her Son, her BABY has been made a Death Eater and given an assignment which will most likely lead to his death, she is getting cold feet. As to her being "a bit kinder", no I don't think so. Remember she was using proudly using the term "Mudblood" during the World Quidditch Cup and in the Robe store twice. Maybe she's one of those Prissy Snob Death Eaters who throws a hissy fit when she breaks a nail or maybe the masks mess up her hair. She may have even had a previous engagement like a Manicure or a Pedicure. Seriously, I don't know why she wasn't there.


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