Do any other people have Horcruxes apart from Voldemort?

[fizzingwhizzbee]

I was wondering if it is likely that any other wizards or witches have created horcruxes. We know that it requires one to kill somebody and then to cast a spell, which presumably is realatively unknown, as it is not in the Hogwarts library. Therefore, is it possible that someone like Lucius Malfoy or Bellatrix Lesatrange have also created horcruxes, having learned the spell either from Voldemort or from some other source? I think that Bellatrix seems the sort of person prepared to create a horcrux, and maybe Voldemort even told some of his most trusted DEs to make horcruxes?
What do you think?

[InsaneKira]

It's possible that some lesser known dark wizards may, but no more than one. Voldy is the only dark wizard to have more than one.

[RinkyDink]

Horcruxes are not something that is widely known and the school is forbidden to teach it. I think it would be very old very dark magic and I don't think it's even something most wizards know exist. Not to mention that fact that I am sure it is extremely complicated. I don't think it would be a matter of casting a spell simple spell.

[ModernInkling]

I don't think they do. For one thing, it would complicate the story too much. For another, I highly doubt Voldemort would teach anyone the Horcrux "spell" (or whatever it is) - they would be a threat to his power, then.

Interesting question, though - I'd never thought about that before

[xFluerDelacourx]

There probaly is other dark wizards with horcruxes. I could imagine some of Voldemort's death eaters having horcruxes.

[xhanax315]

Maybe some Death Eaters have some, but its not absolute. Maybe the last to have a horcruxs was Grindelwald, the Dark Wizard Dumbeldore destroyed. It's unlikely that he had as many as Voldemort.

[Ady]

With Horcruxes being such a taboo i highly doubt anyone had done that before.

[ID824]

Somehow I don't think so. I know several death eaters don't think twice about killing, but somehow I think this kind of magic is reserved for the truly heinous witches and wizards. If anyone does, I would guess it was Bellatrix, but even then I doubt it.

[DarkDaysAhead]

I'd say probably not. It would appear as though a small number of people actually know about Horcruxes and I don't think very many of the people who DO would go so far as to create one.

[soxy_luvsharry]

Im gonna have to agree with RinkyDink-

It wouldnt seem that the other DE would have horcurxes... but then again with J.K-- she usually surprises us... so im just gonna have to wait until the 7th book to REALLY understand it. and yes-- its very dark magic-- and its probably EXTREMELY difficult to figure out.

[Solace_Forever]

I don't think any of the DE's would have horcruxes. maybe, ages ago people did but not no more other than Voldemort

[Alonna]

I don't think so. None of the DEs that have appeared so far have shown the sort of physical effects that are associated with creating horcruxes, and those are not exactly easy to hide. Also, the only purpose for having a horcrux is to make yourself immortal, and none of the DEs that we have been introduced to have that extreme paranoia about death that Voldemort does.

[Draugroth]

I don't think so because Voldemort doesn't seem to be the type of person to let many people know exacly how he was able to become immortal, not even his closest DE's, and from what we learned in HBP, it doesn't seem to be common knowledge. There may have been a few people in the past, but the fact that Voldemort is the only modern dark wizard implys to me that any other dark wizards in the world were defeated long ago, meaning that if they had Horcruxes they had to be destroyed as well. I doubt that there are any good wizards that have Horcruxes because there are other, more acceptable, ways to become immortal than using Horcruxes, like the Sorcerer's Stone.

[iheartmywheezy]

i have to disagree with those who say that no one has ever before made at least one horcrux. first of all, i highly doubt that the idea of a horcrux could come about, and a spell made, without someone actually taking the action and doing it. otherwise, wouldn't it be just a theory, and not an actual thing? how would one know it was possible? voldemort got the idea from somewhere, and i don't find it all that likely that someone came up with the idea, but did not properly develop a spell through actually making one themselves. i agree that grindelwald is an extremely likely candidate for someone who may have made horcruxes. it would also explain why dumbledore, who destroyed grindelwald himself, had a good grasp of knowledge regarding horcruxes (and maybe why rowling used the well-placed word 'destroyed').

that said, it is possible that voldemort discovered the rudimentary beginnings of the idea of horcruxes, and decided to perfect it on his own. that is not that far-fetched of an idea. i don't think it's the way it went down, but i would believe it if someone did a good job of convincing me.

as for death eaters, i do actually agree with the consensus that they more than likely have not/will not made/make horcruxes. most of them seem preoccupied with power and/or staying alive. however, in my opinion, the making of horcruxes needs to be truly driven by purely evil intentions and a sick obssession with remaining immortal. although i will not argue that the deather eaters are all very evil witches and wizards, none are so on the level of voldemort. i don't think there are many out there who would argue with that statement.

and as for the idea of voldemort helping them, i find it even more unlikely. voldemort is cruel and selfish. he does not truly care for anyone; he merely cares about what purpose a person serves, and considers each and evey one of his followers (even the most loyal) completely dispensable. the fact that even malfoy is unaware of the true importance of the diary (the fact that it is a horcrux is not known to him) serves as a bit of evidence that they probably don't even know about the fact that he has made them. of course, it is entirely possible that some of them do, at least to some extent. i just don't see it as very plausible that he would take the time to help someone he cared little to nothing for become immortal. it would do nothing for him, and that's all he cares about.

the idea that bellatrix may have made horcruxes, though, is not that out there. i do agree that if any of the death eaters were to make horcruxes, she would be a prime (if not the best) candidate (i would say luciuous would be, but i think it is safe to say that he doesn't know that much about voldemort's horcruxes and therefore has not made them for himself). she is a lot like voldemort; in fact, i think she is one of the most truly evil beings in the series.

a summary of my opinionated ramblings:

* at least one other witch/wizard before voldemort made at least one horcrux.

* i do not think that any of the de's have made horcruxes.

* IF one of them had, bellatrix would be an excellent candidate.

[VoldyKitten]

Someone had to have made a horcrux before, because voldemort said he was going farther than anyone else had gone my creating multiple horcruxes. If he were the first, he would only have had to create one to go beyond previous achievements. It's possible, of course, that he was indicating that his achievement was creating a horcrux at all, and that he was the first, but that's not what I got out of it.

[Wright1771]

I don't think they'd have had the time....none of them knew of the Horcruxes until Voldemort found out what happened to the diary. Anyhow, 'they' are not Harry's problem....don't give him any more things to worry about!

[freddie_weasley]

Do you think Sirius had one?? We all know he can be that type if he wants to.
The thought just struck me last night!

[Melonhead]

For sirius to have a horcrux he would have had to kill someone and as far as we know he hasnt so unless we havn't heard about him killing someone then I dont think its posible.

[magia]

Riddle tells slughorn that he read about Horcruxes in a book and didn't understand the term, well that may or may not have been true but the fact that slughorn recognized the term immediately suggests that either this piece of dark magic had been around for a long time or slughorn had a personal encounter with it, both of which tell us that atleast one person had made a horcrux before voldemort.

Now, coming to whether or not a death eater has made a horcrux. Bellatrix lestrange certainly jumps out as the obvious choice, for a number of reasons, firstly because she is definitely evil enough, secondly becaus she has been described wether self proclaimed or not as one of "the dark lords most faithful servants" and lastly because of a few excerpts from the books which still intrigue me : (not exact as i havent got my books with me)

1) In the final battle in OoTP she says:
"I am and always have been the dark lords most faithful servant, i learnt the dark arts from him, i know spells of such power..."

If she learnt the dark arts from him, did he also teach her how to make horcruxes?

2) In spinners end in HBP she says:
"The dark Lord, in the past entrusted me with his most precious..."

and then she breaks off, which suggests that she does not want to speak about what the "most precious" was, what could be more precious to voldemort than his horcruxes, and also note that she talks about a singular precious which suggests that she thinks there is only one horcrux.

I have also been thinking for a long time why it was bellatrix who went to search for the dark lord, rodolphus and rabastan obviously followed her lead (and crouch, well, just tagged along), possibly because she knew of the existense of the horcruxes, we know that all the death eaters knew that voldemort had taken steps towards immortality, if you think in a basic logical way, immortality means you can not be killed implying two things:

a) You will not die of old age
b) You cannot be killed with a curse or what not

The other death eaters i presume thought that voldemorts experiments had failed when he lost his body, but bellatrix knowing of the existense and exact meaning of a horcrux, knew that while voldemort had been ripped from his body, hes soul was still alive, still floating somewhere, thats why she went to the longbottoms.

Infact if she knew of the horcruxes, that is to say if voldemort told her about the horcruxes would she not have in some private 'lesson' of theirs have asked him how to make one? which makes the first quote even more intriguing.

3) In OoTP, harry is thinking:
"like sirius she still retained vestiges of good looks, but something perhaps azkaban had taken away most of her beauty..."

and the magic word is ... 'perhaps' Jo is not at all firm about what had 'taken' the good looks of bellatrix.
We see voldemort in dumbledores memory after he has made atleast two - three maybe more horcruxes, that is why his features have become so extremely distorted, but what if he had made one before joining borgin and burkes?

here is something that has just struck me:

When lestrange is introduced in the final battle in OoTP, it is said:
"Azkaban had hollowed bellatrixes face, making it gaunt and skull like."

First of all, why make the reference at all, there are other ways to introduce a character, and having already said pretty much the same thing before, why say it again?

Also in Hokeys memory voldemort's face is said to be "hollowed", but it is followed by saying that it suited him and made him look better looking.

Now the use of the exact same word, to describe the appearances of two individuals to me does not fit in with Jo's way of writing, unless there is another twist in the tale.
It may be coincidence, it may be my paranoid overactive imagination, but i still think there is more to come from bellatrix lestrange, not in terms of killing somebody or getting into fights, but something deeply set into the plot.

Bellatrix throughout book six is conspicuous because of her absence, i know we havent been out of hogwarts a lot, and that she does make an appearance in spinners end, Jo described bellatrix in a whole new way which has again been intriguing me. But the most conspicuous of her absences has been from the group of death eaters that got into hogwarts, surely she would have wanted to come, to rise a little in the dark lords eyes, and to help her nephew, but no, we are introduced to this "huge blond death eater" that apparently no character has ever seen or met, notice that his is the only name which hasn't been given, we are introduced to amycus and a few others but blondie seemingly dosent have a name.

[Pat4891]

Probably in the past history of the wizarding world other horcruxes have been made. They woukd need to be invented by someone wouldn't they. See what i think is some dark wizard invented horcruxes but only split his soul into two and another good wizard destroyed it. Voldy knew the rumors of horcruxes and decided to make 7 pieces of his soul as he thought this would make him harder to kill.