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Re: What will we learn about Petunia in Deathly Hallows? v.2

I am totally gutted to say this, because I am very fond of the "Dudley is a wizard" theory - but JKR has this to say on the subject:

JKR Sunday 15th August 2004Is there more to Dudley than meets the eye?

No. [Laughter]. What you see is what you get. I am happy to say that he is definitely a character without much back story. He is just Dudley...[Laughter]


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I am totally gutted to say this, because I am very fond of the "Dudley is a wizard" theory - but JKR has this to say on the subject:

JKR Sunday 15th August 2004Is there more to Dudley than meets the eye?

No. [Laughter]. What you see is what you get. I am happy to say that he is definitely a character without much back story. He is just Dudley...[Laughter]


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ooo thanks! I just thought it would be a funny twist...but also a bit scary. I am kind of happy to know he is just Dudley...thats forsure!


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My take on this is that Lily and James didn't go into hiding until the earliest of August 1980. Thats about 3-6 months after the prophecy was told. It wasn't until one week prior to their deaths that they actually used higher security measures <fidelius charm> because the threat was so great. That would be almost a year and 7ish months say since the prophecy was told. We sort of have to assume that LV didn't know about the prophecy's record being in the MoM because if he did, he would of tried to get it much sooner, not 16 years later. It just seemed to me that OotP LV's search for the weapon was something of new information to him, not something he was keeping under his belt all these years. Just my opinion though.
Just as clarification, and I may be wrong but, I think what was being asked was about the date on the record of the prophecy. Once LV found out about the record - he sent DE's and others to retieve it, but they couldn't, but they could look on the shelf at the date it was made, which the book talks about I am pretty sure. The DE's then could have told LV atleast this information (assuming they found it to be relevant), then LV would know that several months had past between when the prophecy was told and when Snape reported it to him.


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As far as Petunia ever seeing Lily we don't know. It has never been mentioned. Like I said, it only says that Vernon had never met Harry prior to him being put on his doorstep. All we do know is that Petunia didn't like discussing her sister. Leaves it up in the air as far as I'm concerned.
Not so much. Petunia clearly states that she had not seen her sister in years proir to Harry being left on their doorstep and Petunia hated the majic world or atleast was very jealous of it, so I find it unlikely that Petunia would be sitting in a wizard's home, just chatting with her pregnant sister. Look at the hatred she had for James in the first book when she goes off about how weird James and Lily were. It is more likely that Lily wrote to Petunia about her expectant baby and maybe some other really important stuff in hopes of becoming close to her sister.

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I can see what your saying about the "awful boy" part, but in Petunia's eyes this stuff happened 16-17 years prior to this quote by her. When she looks back to the past, it was just a boy freshly out of school. She even says within the same quote. "I heard --- that awful boy ---- telling her about them ---- years ago"
Is she really so old that she considers a 20 something yr. old person to be a boy? Remember by this time they have graduated, Lily and James were married, and expecting a child. They all had to be atleast 20? Right?

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I don't think Snape was ever a threat to LIly and James for them to fear him, I dont see a problem with him being able to speak to them at anytime.
He was a known DE and they were in the Order. I see a threat!


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I believe DD might of been fibbing for the greater good here. I have proof he did this once before when he went and told the MoM that he was the one who set up DD army. That was a straight out lie on his part and nobody thought twice about it cause it was all for the good. So its not like I am grasping at straws here saying that its a possiblity that DD lied to Harry here. Why? cause its the second key to bring down LV is to have Snape so deeply immensed on the other side, that nobody knows if he is good or evil.
Agreed. Nobody says DD never lies, and he has not always been completely honest with Harry as well, but this was the big conversation where DD was "comming clean" with Harry. Would this be a time DD would choose to lie? It is possible, if for no other reason than to give Harry peace of mind. Snape is the last person Harry trusts and DD knows that. I'm on both sides of the fence on this one!

Also, DD said (in PoA, when Harry falls into the pensieve and sees the DE trials) that Snape turned on LV and became a spy BEFORE LV's downfall, but claims that Snape was still a DE when he heard the prophecy (or part of it). It seems likely that it went more like this:

DD and Trewaley are about to finish up when she starts her prophecy. Snape is spying right outside the door and begins to eavesdrop on the conversation. Then the barman was bringing up drinks or food, comming to check on his customers, or something like that. He sees Snape and begins yelling at his causing a big disruption, which prevents Snape from hearing the rest of the prophecy. Trewaley comes out of her trance, hears the shouting outside the door, opens it to see Snape and the barman arguing and the barman accusing Snape of eavesdropping, andTrewaley gets all flustered thinking that these people have actually interupted her (even though they had not). Remember when she comes out of the trance, she is not always clear about what exactly was taking place before she went into the trance (not that she knows about the trances), but she appears disoriented afterwards none the less. (another movie forshadowing?) Snape leaves and tells LV about the prophecy, either right away or awhile later once he decides what it might mean for him. LV tells Snape it is either Longbottom or Potter and when LV chooses Potter, Snape's life-debt to James forces Snape to tell DD and turn against LV. That's my story what do you all think?

I just added this! I was on another thread about How Harry will say goodbye when an idea came to me, here's what I wrote:
We already know there will be information given to Harry from Petunia. Maybe before the good-bye maybe at the same time, but it will happen. However I do not see any love getting lost between the Dursleys and Harry. The information could also be found and not talked about. Like for instance, if the Dursleys were taken away for their safety [that's the theory on that thread], Harry goes looking in the attic and finds letters or something giving him all this information the Dursleys would never have told him.


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I think the most telling reason that it will NOT be Dudley or Vernon or Marge is that whoever the "mystery magician" will be will almost certainly be TRYING to cast a spell. We're told it will happen under dire circumstances. The ONLY way i see it being someone like Dudley or Vernon is if the house is attacked, and they pick up Ron, Harry's or Hermione's wand, and just repeat what they heard someone yelling then POW. On the other hand...Filch and Figs seem too easy. So....how bout Grawp?

now back to THIS thread...
Feets off, I like the theory, but I'm not sure I can agree...parts of it are fun to think about, but I'm not sure. For a few reason:
1- just look at how long your post is...For Jo to make it make sense in the story, I fear it'd take more than one chapter.
2- and this is a big one...If Snape warned the Potters directly, he should no longer consider himself endebted to James. Despite the fact that his warning failed....he did his part. Just because James didn't listen, isn't his fault.
3- It's just too long and complicated. I LOVE these threads, they are so so so much fun, but what is with this obsession we all (myself too) have with such complicated ideas. none of Jo's other explanations of things have been so complicated. So...I have a feeling it's going to be FAR more simple than anything we've been thinking of here.
4- I used to think that she did indeed have a hex put on Dudley to stop any magical powers in him, but if she did, and Dudley is magical, isn't that more a revalation on HIM not her?

In short, i have a feeling we're all gonna yell DUH when we see what it is. it'l be painfully simply, yet beautifully ellagant.

As another aside, I also cannot get over Dumbles mentioining to Harry after he finds out Mungdungs was watching him as was Figs, that he's been more watched than he'll ever know....What was THAT all about, anyone know if there's a thread on that?

How about a thread on why Voldemort says (we assume of snape) "I feel he has left me forever" in the graveyard???
I'd LOVE to know why he thinks that of Snape...perhaps because of his interactions with him as QuirrelMort?


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That would be brillliant! Although, it scares me to think of him with magical powers... So, Petunia carried the gene and passed it to her son
Although, I feel like we would have seen Dudley do more strange things like Harry did before he knew he was a wizard. Like, we wouldn't know it was Dudley and if fact would think it was Harry. Dudley never seems to have done anything odd, that would suggest it...although it would be very funny...and scary...
Well maybe Dudley's worst memories he relived during the dementor attack were memories of him doing such odd things that scared him silly.

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eautifully ellagant.

As another aside, I also cannot get over Dumbles mentioining to Harry after he finds out Mungdungs was watching him as was Figs, that he's been more watched than he'll ever know....What was THAT all about, anyone know if there's a thread on that?
I'll repeat a theory I heard somewhere else, but I can't remember which thread, sorry. Hopefully someone else can provide that happy information. Someone theorized that Harry is basically immortal until Voldemort and Harry face off and one defeats the other. They drew this notion from words in the prophesy. Also they think that each person who has really loved Harry and sacrificed their life has actually added some protection. Almost like the opposite of a horcrux. Lily's death, James' death, Sirius' death, Dumbledore's death.....have added their love protection to Harry. The theory went on to fear that there may be more deaths to make it so he has seven......


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Hiya crookshanksfan
I just wanted to respond to your questions.
Thank you, I appreciate that! I may have a couple of new ones for you, though...
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My take on this is that Lily and James didn't go into hiding until the earliest of August 1980. Thats about 3-6 months after the prophecy was told. It wasn't until one week prior to their deaths that they actually used higher security measures <fidelius charm> because the threat was so great. That would be almost a year and 7ish months say since the prophecy was told. We sort of have to assume that LV didn't know about the prophecy's record being in the MoM because if he did, he would of tried to get it much sooner, not 16 years later. It just seemed to me that OotP LV's search for the weapon was something of new information to him, not something he was keeping under his belt all these years. Just my opinion though.
I think the reason Voldemort was trying to get hold of the prophecy in OotP is that he realized that the last part of it was of great importance. Before he killed the Potters, he assumed that what he knew was enough, so he didn't go after the prophecy. After all, a bunch of DEs got into the MoM in OotP, and back in the days of VWI everybody knew Voldemort was around (which they didn't in 1995(?)), so he might have been willing to risk a break-in at that point if he really wanted to hear the prophecy. However, I don't think he did, he just acted upon what he knew. But the AK backfired, of course, and when he regained his body, he understood that in order to get rid of Harry, he needed to know the rest of the prophecy, so that things didn't get messed up a second time. That's how I see it. My belief is that he knew about the prophecy in the Hall of Prophecies all along. Which means he also knew the date, if he bothered to have someone check it.
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I can see what your saying about the "awful boy" part, but in Petunia's eyes this stuff happened 16-17 years prior to this quote by her. When she looks back to the past, it was just a boy freshly out of school. She even says within the same quote. "I heard --- that awful boy ---- telling her about them ---- years ago"
Fair point.
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I don't think Snape was ever a threat to LIly and James for them to fear him, I dont see a problem with him being able to speak to them at anytime.
As I said, I think they must have known what kind of company he kept. He must, at the very least, have been pretty persuasive for Lily to let him into the house. I don't think James would have done it at all.
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I believe DD might of been fibbing for the greater good here. I have proof he did this once before when he went and told the MoM that he was the one who set up DD army. That was a straight out lie on his part and nobody thought twice about it cause it was all for the good. So its not like I am grasping at straws here saying that its a possiblity that DD lied to Harry here. Why? cause its the second key to bring down LV is to have Snape so deeply immensed on the other side, that nobody knows if he is good or evil.
Yes, Dumbledore has lied. But there are two important differences between these situations:
1. Dumbledore had to lie to make sure Harry and the others weren't kicked out of school. I don't think there was any way the Ministry would have let them off, if Dumbledore hadn't taken the blame. So I don't believe he had any choice. But as far as I can see, he didn't have to mention specifically that only two people (him and Harry) knew the full contents of the prophecy. It was additional information. So it would be a "needless" lie IMO.
2. I don't think Dumbledore would lie to Harry. Lying to the ministry is one thing, but lying about the prophecy to the only one who can finish Voldemort off is another thing. I know Dumbledore withholds information now and then, but I don't think he'd tell Harry an outright lie.

(By the way, I'm glad you had a counterargument on this point. It shows you've put some real work into the theory. I like that!)
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Just as clarification, and I may be wrong but, I think what was being asked was about the date on the record of the prophecy. Once LV found out about the record - he sent DE's and others to retieve it, but they couldn't, but they could look on the shelf at the date it was made, which the book talks about I am pretty sure. The DE's then could have told LV atleast this information (assuming they found it to be relevant), then LV would know that several months had past between when the prophecy was told and when Snape reported it to him.
Yes. Even if Voldemort didn't check the date before the Potters died, he would know by now. Which means Snape would be in real trouble...
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Not so much. Petunia clearly states that she had not seen her sister in years proir to Harry being left on their doorstep and Petunia hated the majic world or atleast was very jealous of it, so I find it unlikely that Petunia would be sitting in a wizard's home, just chatting with her pregnant sister. Look at the hatred she had for James in the first book when she goes off about how weird James and Lily were. It is more likely that Lily wrote to Petunia about her expectant baby and maybe some other really important stuff in hopes of becoming close to her sister.
True, I agree with you.
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DD and Trewaley are about to finish up when she starts her prophecy. Snape is spying right outside the door and begins to eavesdrop on the conversation. Then the barman was bringing up drinks or food, comming to check on his customers, or something like that. He sees Snape and begins yelling at his causing a big disruption, which prevents Snape from hearing the rest of the prophecy. Trewaley comes out of her trance, hears the shouting outside the door, opens it to see Snape and the barman arguing and the barman accusing Snape of eavesdropping, andTrewaley gets all flustered thinking that these people have actually interupted her (even though they had not). Remember when she comes out of the trance, she is not always clear about what exactly was taking place before she went into the trance (not that she knows about the trances), but she appears disoriented afterwards none the less. (another movie forshadowing?) Snape leaves and tells LV about the prophecy, either right away or awhile later once he decides what it might mean for him. LV tells Snape it is either Longbottom or Potter and when LV chooses Potter, Snape's life-debt to James forces Snape to tell DD and turn against LV. That's my story what do you all think?
I agree with all of this - except I'm not sure it was the life debt that made snape tell Dumbledore about it. I think Snape hates Voldemort for some reason, and wants to see him dead. So I think Snape had his own reasons for doing what he did, it wasn't the result of a life debt. But this is all speculation on my part.

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Just as clarification, and I may be wrong but, I think what was being asked was about the date on the record of the prophecy. Once LV found out about the record - he sent DE's and others to retieve it, but they couldn't, but they could look on the shelf at the date it was made, which the book talks about I am pretty sure. The DE's then could have told LV atleast this information (assuming they found it to be relevant), then LV would know that several months had past between when the prophecy was told and when Snape reported it to him.

Does the books mention the date or even say there was a date there? Anyway, we can only guess ourselves what date the prophesy was made on. I am guessing Halloween of '79 which is earlier than some people place it but it would be right around the time Harry was conceived, as if his very conception triggered the prophesy. Also, lots of important things happen on Halloween. Anyway, I don't think it could be known to Voldemort when the prophesy was made unless he knows who it was made by and that Snape was spying on Dumbledore the night he interviewed her. It could go either way, but I think he does know it was her. I think she was kidnapped the night the DE's broke into Hogwarts in HBP.

About Lily and James regarding Snape.....I think that once Snape turned to Dumbledore then they made plans including telling V half the prophesy. Snape's loyalty may have been revealed to other members of the Order. If not, then I think Dumbledore revealed it to Lily and James once Snape found out they were Voldemort's targets. I don't think Snape warned them himself but warned them thorugh Dumbledore. I think they would have accepted Snape and listened to him if Dumbledore spoke for him.......Then again, I might sound like I'm contradicting myself, but I have to consider all possibilities. Maybe they didn't think Dumbledore was right about Snape (which is pretty likely actually) and that is why they argued with Dumbledore and didn't let Dumbledore be the Secret Keeper. They thought Dumbledore would reveal the secret to Snape who they believed was still loyal to Voldemort.......hmmm


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Cool. What's your take on it? Do you have other ideas for what is protecting Harry other than what he (and we) knows of? I think there is a strong possibility that Petunia might know what it is.


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I don't think there is a thread about this, all I could find in my search was a very detailed legal analysis of the hearing. Anyways, during the hearing Dumbledore calls Arabella Figg as a witness to tell about Harry's struggle against the dementor's. Mrs. Figg, however, is not a registered witch because she is a Squib, and Madam Bones questions this.



So I'm wondering what these 'past events' are?
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Cool. What's your take on it? Do you have other ideas for what is protecting Harry other than what he (and we) knows of? I think there is a strong possibility that Petunia might know what it is.
You might be interested in this thread or maybe we combine the two. I myself think that we will also learn more about Privet Drive. All the magical encounters seem to concentrate on the 'corridor' (where Dudley was attacked).

Sorry, I forgot to tell you to click on the arrow to view the full post of 'gryffindorsheir'.
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I think the only significance of Privet Drive is that Harry lives there.


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You might be interested in this thread or maybe we combine the two. I myself think that we will also learn more about Privet Drive. All the magical encounters seem to concentrate on the 'corridor' (where Dudley was attacked).
I'm not sure what thread you are referring to. Where is it?


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I think the only significance of Privet Drive is that Harry lives there.
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So do I. Other than the significance of the name....Private Drive (Dursley's like to keep their secrets about Harry private, Petunia likes to spy and invade peoples privacy, Harry was kept private from the wizarding world....But as far as the place goes....it's only significant because Harry's mother's blood relation lives there and Harry is protected there. Nothing to do with the place itself...


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Severus loves, I think the theory is OK....I sort of looked at the sacrifices Harry has received on his behalf being similar to a non dark magic horcrux. He's had 5 sacrifices on his behalf (James, Lilly, Sirius, Dumbledore, and Cedric).
2 more and he has 7 sacrifices (OH NO NOT RON AND HERMIONE)...completing "his set".
Not sure that's exactly what is meant, but i think it is close, and I don't think I agree totally...i like the idea, it's sneaky, and it's totally Jo...but I've never really thought of immortality as we're talking about it to be a postivie characteristic, or one that the "good guy" has.
I'm also not sure that's how I read the prophecy.
Just that the only ones who are capable of killing the one is the other, all others will fail if they try. Perhaps THAT actually is the proof that Snape heard the whole prophecy, he stops the others at the end of HBP from killing Harry cus he knows they can't....hmmm maybe he did hear more than he has led Dumbles to beleive he has.

In any case, I think that Petunia's big secret is going to be that she knows specifically something that is going to give Harry a very important lesson. What???? no clue anymore.


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Does the books mention the date or even say there was a date there? Anyway, we can only guess ourselves what date the prophesy was made on. I am guessing Halloween of '79 which is earlier than some people place it but it would be right around the time Harry was conceived, as if his very conception triggered the prophesy.
I'm not sure if we were told the date of Tready's prophecy or not, but I think the hall of prophecies would record the date it was said or atleast the date it became a possibility. I think DD interviewed her in the summer for the comming fall though. It makes more sense to interview a teacher a month or so before school begins and DD seems to have to hire teachers every summer so far (for DADA )
Here is the tricky part: DD when he is telling Harry in OoTP about the prophecy, he said that LV made the prophecy true by hearing the first half and choosing to act upon it and that the prophecy would have most likely been false if LV had heard it and done nothing (never having marked anyone as his equal), but he chose to act in haste. So maybe the date on the record is the date LV put the prophecy into motion, the day he tried to kill Harry would then be the date listed on the record in the MoM and LV would know nothing of Snape's delay in reporting the prophecy. Assuming that there was a delay.

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Also, lots of important things happen on Halloween. Anyway, I don't think it could be known to Voldemort when the prophesy was made unless he knows who it was made by and that Snape was spying on Dumbledore the night he interviewed her. It could go either way, but I think he does know it was her. I think she was kidnapped the night the DE's broke into Hogwarts in HBP.
If my above theory rings true, then why would Snape not tell LV who made the prophecy. I mean I can not imagine saying to LV, "Sorry master I rather keep that information to myself." He would be AV'ed in an instant and if he lied an innocent person would die? I can not see him doing that while working for the good side, right?

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About Lily and James regarding Snape.....I think that once Snape turned to Dumbledore then they made plans including telling V half the prophesy. Snape's loyalty may have been revealed to other members of the Order. If not, then I think Dumbledore revealed it to Lily and James once Snape found out they were Voldemort's targets.
But if DD knew who would be targeted why would he risk the Potter's and Longbottom's lives like that and why were the Longbottoms not also in hiding since DD knew that Neville also would have been the possible target?

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I don't think Snape warned them himself but warned them thorugh Dumbledore. I think they would have accepted Snape and listened to him if Dumbledore spoke for him.......Then again, I might sound like I'm contradicting myself, but I have to consider all possibilities. Maybe they didn't think Dumbledore was right about Snape (which is pretty likely actually) and that is why they argued with Dumbledore and didn't let Dumbledore be the Secret Keeper. They thought Dumbledore would reveal the secret to Snape who they believed was still loyal to Voldemort.......hmmm
First if the Potter's asked him not to tell Snape, I think he would respect their wishes and I think the Potter's knew that. Next, I think they wanted a loyal person who they believed nobody would ever expect of being a secret-keeper. Lets face it nobody would have suspected Wormtail of being one. I mean even other wizards called him, " A dumpy little boy". He was the intellectual equivalent of Stan Shuntpike in his time. Sorry to insult Stan like that. It just happened he wasn't loyal!


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I think there is a very, very important thing to consider here. Our most valuable piece of information we have recieved as of yet is Jo's quote that Petunia is a muggle, BUT...

She obviously has some signifigant conection to the wizarding world, and it's not just Lilly's stories. Now, call me crazy, but I think Petunia might have had another wizard connection... James. Petunia must have been a normal muggle child. If you believe this you must also believe she had normal childish... crushes. Yes, you may see what I'm getting at here. We don't hear much about James's parents, and what's to say they weren't laid back enough to let him spend some summer vacation time at Lilly's? If this is the case, Petunia knew him. I'm going to guess that, like Harry, James was a pretty charming fellow. It's not unlikely then, that Petunia had feelings for him. Petunia might have heard about the wizarding world from her sister and James. Petunia also has a pretty strong hatred for James. She calls him things like "that boy." Could this hatred have stemed from the fact that James always liked her sister better? Who knows?


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I think there is a very, very important thing to consider here. Our most valuable piece of information we have recieved as of yet is Jo's quote that Petunia is a muggle, BUT...

She obviously has some signifigant conection to the wizarding world, and it's not just Lilly's stories. Now, call me crazy, but I think Petunia might have had another wizard connection... James. Petunia must have been a normal muggle child. If you believe this you must also believe she had normal childish... crushes. Yes, you may see what I'm getting at here. We don't hear much about James's parents, and what's to say they weren't laid back enough to let him spend some summer vacation time at Lilly's? If this is the case, Petunia knew him. I'm going to guess that, like Harry, James was a pretty charming fellow. It's not unlikely then, that Petunia had feelings for him. Petunia might have heard about the wizarding world from her sister and James. Petunia also has a pretty strong hatred for James. She calls him things like "that boy." Could this hatred have stemed from the fact that James always liked her sister better? Who knows?
Good idea, but there has to be more to it. I mean we have considered Petunia loving:

Snape, Sirius, Peter (ugh), and I think even Lupin was thrown out there as a possible crush, Now James. I had lots of teenage crushes, but they never developed into such hate. If in fact Petunia had a majical romantic connection, then she must have been dating and really in love with whomever rejected her and that person must have had some very important secrets that were past to Petunia while they were dating, and the person must have been in Slytherin for the information to really help Harry. It is like it was said it the first book. All wizards that turn bad are from Slytherin. (they are such cowards!)


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Old May 18th, 2007, 2:54 am
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Hmm, that's quite true.

I do think though that it's a quite blatant possibility that Petunia dated someone magical. I mean, she's totally muggle, but there's more to it than that. You're either magical or you're not. She isn't magical. She has a strong connection to the magical world. It will be up to book 7 to reveal what this delicate complex connestion may be.


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I think that Harry will spend some time having a heart to heart talk with his aunt and find out a lot of information about his mother and father. Petunia may hate James because it was his world that caused her sister's death. She may have loved her sister when she was younger. There is a very fine line between love and hate and Lily's death may have caused the hatred.

I think that Petunia may have spent some time with many of the wizarding community and may have indeed had a crush on one of James' friends.


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