Why wasn't Trelawney at Dumbledore's funeral

[HJP navy seal]

Okay...here comes the crazy theory....Maybe, she had another one of her...moments, and actually saw into the future, and saw Dumbledore alive? And then realized that it was too far a walk to go to someones funeral, when they would come back to life? Just a thought!

[hedwig_3180]

Trelawney probably had a hangover...

Well, I didn't even notice that Trelawney was missing from the funeral. I think that she was maybe just too distraught and messed up to go anywhere without a mental breakdown...she always was a sensitive woman.

[CrotonaPark44]

Is this scenario "Rowling-esque"?

After Bill & Fleur's wedding at the start of Deathly Hallows, Lupin (or Tonks, or Mad Eye or some other member of the Order) sidles up to Harry and whispers, "You know, lad, no one's seen or heard from Trelawney since the night Sanpe murdered Dumbledore."

Does this scene read like the way Jo would start a novel?

[ILoveFang]

I agree that not mentioning Trelawny for the rest of the book is a bit odd, but I don't think she could have gone missing without someone noticing. I think she was seated with the rest of the staff, surely they did a head count or something after the Death Eaters fled, to make sure everyone was there. And even if they didn't, they would have noticed if a teacher had disappeared.

[HJP navy seal]

Originally Posted by ILoveFang

And even if they didn't, they would have noticed if a teacher had disappeared.

Who would have noticed that someone who never comes to any public events is gone?

[nicloetje]

Originally Posted by HJP navy seal

Who would have noticed that someone who never comes to any public events is gone?

Good point. They might have missed her, but regarding invitation to the funeral, surely someone would have told her personally! Or were they too distraught themselves to take her into account?

Usually when she appears in public, JK makes a big deal out of it. So thats why her absence in this case is so suspicious to me..

[hedwig_3180]

Originally Posted by CrotonaPark44

Is this scenario "Rowling-esque"?

After Bill & Fleur's wedding at the start of Deathly Hallows, Lupin (or Tonks, or Mad Eye or some other member of the Order) sidles up to Harry and whispers, "You know, lad, no one's seen or heard from Trelwaney since the night Sanpe murdered Dumbledore."

Does this scene read like the way Jo would start a novel?

Umm, maybe not start the novel, but in a chapter, jsut as one of really important things mentioned in passing and we find find out later that it's really really important...JK likes to do those things.

Oh! I've just had an idea!! Here it is, are you ready??

Trelawney was taken by the Death Eaters when they escaped, because Voldemort thinks it would be useful to have a Seer on his side, or Trelawney willingly wen t with them, thinking that it would be safer, or better!! Whatcha think?!?

[teardrops17]

Originally Posted by teardrops17

Another JK's red herring...

*It's Trelawney's behavior to lock herself at the tower...
*We were focused on the Malfoy/Snape/horcrux plot
*We were preoccupied by DD's death afterwards....
*We were subfocused on seeing other minor characters and some red herrings like Irma Pince... and get a small itch with Umbridge
*We were excited by Harry/Ginny ending...

how could someone missed poor old Sybil...

hmmmm who could have noticed crazy-old Trelawney???
none...

even if she was killed, abducted, or whatever happened to her,...

thank you for the nice idea...
I have never thinked of her...
I was preoccupied just like the majority of HP fans


oh my gosh...
she could have been died ages ago yet no single fan realizes!

I was still thinking seriously when I've read yourt post

Originally Posted by hedwig_3180

Trelawney probably had a hangover...

I like that idea! lol

[CoeurDeLyon]

Funny... I never noticed either. Weird.. but I completely agree with the thought that Trelawney was probabaly abdudcted or something. I think Voldy really wanted to hear that Prophecy. She was right outside of the Room of requirement, where Malfoy was keeping his Vanishing Cabinet. Perfect to steal a professor

[snuka]

Wouldn't Harry or anyone from the Order or DA or the students/teachers notice the DE captured Trelawney though?

Stealing Trelawney does seem like something LV would do, but I think it would be mentioned she's missing if it was crucial to the plot.

[RiverIsis]

Originally Posted by snuka

Wouldn't Harry or anyone from the Order or DA or the students/teachers notice the DE captured Trelawney though?

Stealing Trelawney does seem like something LV would do, but I think it would be mentioned she's missing if it was crucial to the plot.

Ok I have no books with me at the moment - but I just have the feeling when I read them that sometimes it is just as important what JK doesn't say as what she does say. Look at the FAQ polls that she refuses to answer because she doesn't want to reveal information too soon.

As I say we are in speculation but if a teacher is missing and the head of the school dead, I don't think they would be focussing on the missing teacher - which could be convenient in many ways. They firstly wouldn't want to detract from the gravity of losing Dumbledore. And secondly they really wouldn't want to announce that they have been so careless to lose a teacher and not know what has happened to her (well just yet anyway)

[ID824]

She read the tea leaves wrong and mixed up the date and time!

[JJFinch]

Originally Posted by Pegasus

Darn it, I can't find it! Must reread...
Anyway, Trelawney was all upset about something bad that was going to happen (and quite drunken and disheveled), and Harry told her to wait there and he'd get Dumbledore, but then they went off to the cave...I remember something about someone being dead in the hallway later.

No, only the DE Gibbon was killed. Harry stepped over what he thought was a body, but it was later confirmed to be Bill (alive but hurt).

[CoeurDeLyon]

Originally Posted by snuka

Wouldn't Harry or anyone from the Order or DA or the students/teachers notice the DE captured Trelawney though?

Stealing Trelawney does seem like something LV would do, but I think it would be mentioned she's missing if it was crucial to the plot.

Not necessarily...if it is crucial to the plot we might not find out about it till halfway thru DH....like all other plot elements. Foe example, we had no clue that Mad eye was locked in his own trunk for all of GoF. Im not saying shes definetly abducted, but its plausible...it makes sense.

[ID824]

It's quite possible she felt guilty about coming up with the Tarot card about the lightning struck tower and not warning Dumbeldore before he died. Remember how mad she was at him about being "thrown unceremoniously out of his office" to meet with Harry? Maybe she purposely withheld this information that she would have wanted to share, and believes he died as a result?

[HedwigOwl]

Originally Posted by CoeurDeLyon

Funny... I never noticed either. Weird.. but I completely agree with the thought that Trelawney was probabaly abdudcted or something. I think Voldy really wanted to hear that Prophecy. She was right outside of the Room of requirement, where Malfoy was keeping his Vanishing Cabinet. Perfect to steal a professor

Doesn't seem likely, because Draco was the one who used a spell to knock Trelawney out of the RoR using the Peruvian Darkness Powder as a cover so she wouldn't see him. If it was part of the plan to capture Trelawney, Draco would have simply let her come in the RoR and then stun her. Trelawney wasn't the target, Dumbledore was.

[MAGICicalMUggle]

I don't think that Draco knew anything about the plan to kidnap Trelawney....Or the real reason why Voldemort ordered a gang of Death-Eaters to help him out on the task, given that Voldemort would expect for Draco to fail miserably...And be killed by Dumbledore in the process while one of the Death-Eaters grab Trelawney and leave. I believe that the real target was actually Trelawney! Voldemort knows how powerful is Dumbledore and knows that he will fight and win over any weak servant Death-Eater like Draco for example....I believe that this was all a clever rouse to distract Dumbledore while they grab Trelawney, I don't think that Voldemort would of expected that someone will actually get the chance to kill Dumbledore.

[olive632]

Yes I had been aware of this before and am quite worried because if voldemort has her then she may not survive like Bertha Jorkins in GOF. Sorry if this has been mentioned before.

[Lightseer]

Because she never went! As a 'seer' she did not need to go. Or maybe because she was too sad to go

[CoeurDeLyon]

Originally Posted by HedwigOwl

Doesn't seem likely, because Draco was the one who used a spell to knock Trelawney out of the RoR using the Peruvian Darkness Powder as a cover so she wouldn't see him. If it was part of the plan to capture Trelawney, Draco would have simply let her come in the RoR and then stun her. Trelawney wasn't the target, Dumbledore was.

Just because DD was the target in HBP, doesnt mean Voldy forgot about what his target was the year prior. He tried for a year (that we know of) to hear the entire prophecy. Maybe Draco didnt do anything to her, but there were other Death Eaters. How do we know that another death eater didnt abduct her? If Voldy was relying on Malfoy killing DD, or for him to fail for that matter, why would he send a gang of death eaters into Hogwarts?I think there were other plans we arent aware of...possibly to kidnap Trewlawney