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Old May 1st, 2011, 5:15 am
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Big difference here. First off, J.K.Rowling is one of (if not the) best writer in the world. 90% of the people who write Star Wars EU aren't even that decent, and the ones that are, are still nowhere near as good as Rowling. Lucas made movies, not books, so it works somewhat better with him.

Also, the nature of the Star Wars world really lends itself to such things much better. First off, it is a world which does not make any significant changes or technological advances over the course of multiple thousands of years, allowing anyone to write a story based around almost any point in time without having to worry about whether the things that are done fit with the world during the time period that they are writing in.

The Villian in Harry Potter, Voldemort, accomplished such things that it is heavily implied have never been accomplished before, or even have come close to accomplishing, which means that it would be very, VERY hard to create a new villian before that time which seems realistically frightening yet doesn't try to outdo Voldemort, and I don't trust other writers to not try and do just that (try and make their own villians more terrible then Voldemort).

Finally, the world which Rowling has created is so much more intricate and so masterfully interwoven then anything that Lucas has ever made that to trust someone else with trying to expand the universe while still keeping it coherant is unrealistic.

All in all, as much as I like Star Wars, and as much as I enjoy some of the Star Wars EU books, such an idea would really not work well with Harry Potter. At least, I don't think so.
There are Star Wars EU books based in all types of time periods. The formation of the Jedi Order,the prequels, the Yuuzhan Vong. They have the same technology but all vastly different galaxies, in terms of how things are run.

There dosen't have to be a main villian in the EWW books. I am talking about side villians, side stories about certain things in the wizarding world the Rowling never touched upon. The Star Wars novels are based around one of the greatest villains of any story, the rise and fall of Darth Vader and the mastermind of Darth Sidious. Yet EU was still succesful(granted things got silly when they had the Yuuzhan Vong destroying everything, tried to hard to out-do Vader).

I don't think the wizarding world that Rowling has created is that complex. There are many things that need expanding. And when you say it is "masterfully interwoven". That really only apllies to things related to Harry Potter himself, not the entire wizarding world. I have always found the Star Wars Galaxy very intricate. The role of the Jedi particularly deep when expanded.

I feel like there could be many spin off stories about side characters that deal with areas of magic that aren't fully explored in the book.


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Old May 1st, 2011, 6:06 am
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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

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There are Star Wars EU books based in all types of time periods. The formation of the Jedi Order,the prequels, the Yuuzhan Vong. They have the same technology but all vastly different galaxies, in terms of how things are run.

There dosen't have to be a main villian in the EWW books. I am talking about side villians, side stories about certain things in the wizarding world the Rowling never touched upon. The Star Wars novels are based around one of the greatest villains of any story, the rise and fall of Darth Vader and the mastermind of Darth Sidious. Yet EU was still succesful(granted things got silly when they had the Yuuzhan Vong destroying everything, tried to hard to out-do Vader).

I don't think the wizarding world that Rowling has created is that complex. There are many things that need expanding. And when you say it is "masterfully interwoven". That really only apllies to things related to Harry Potter himself, not the entire wizarding world. I have always found the Star Wars Galaxy very intricate. The role of the Jedi particularly deep when expanded.

I feel like there could be many spin off stories about side characters that deal with areas of magic that aren't fully explored in the book.
There is a difference in the first point. Thousands of different worlds with different cultures and governments don't need to relate to each other in any way whatsoever. Dozens of different time periods within a single world, then you need to keep increadibly close track of how each of those times within the same world work with each other.

You are right, there doesn't need to be any villians who are even close to being as bad as Voldemort, but writers are beings of great pride and they WANT their villians to be increadible. Every single major villian in the Star Wars EU world, Darth Bane, the Vong, Darth Kryat, Darth Cadaeus, Exar-Kun, and plenty of others, are all attempts to be better then Vader and Sidious (to the point where Lucas had to step in and say that Sidious is actually the strongest Sith ever, in order to cut off the flow of people trying over and over again to try and make it otherwise).

You are right in that Star Wars is now quite complex and intricate, but when Lucas first created the Star Wars movies, it was not. That is why the EU was able to so successfully expand upon it, to grow it into something spectacular. And yet, even then they make major unheavals, I mean just look at the Mandalorians. The race has gone from ruthless savage killers to pacifists and then to noble warriors who can do things even Jedi can't. The different writers make so many differences between each of their books that it's almost seperate universes. Harry Potter was created far more complex then Star Wars originally was (when it was just the original movies) and so it is subject to be messed up far worse by outside writers.

All in all, I'm not saying that it couldn't be done well. I am just saying that I'm not fond of the odds of anyone being able to do it well and keep things right. I trust Rowling to write her own story, and very few others. Not that I don't enjoy fanfiction, but they don't effect canon


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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

Before this HP/Star Wars comparison gets any further, please be aware we have a thread about it:

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Old May 3rd, 2011, 8:30 pm
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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

Honestly, when it comes to new HP books I would take any new books that Jo would be willing to write us.


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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

Aside from the Encyclopedia, I would probably be over the moon if JKR decided to write a book set during the time of the founding of Hogwarts. Or a novel centering on Dumbledore's life.

I don't think I would read any novels set in the HP world not written by JKR, just as I have no interest in reading the sequel to Gone With the Wind. Even if the plot would be approved by her, it just wouldn't be the same, IMO


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Old May 5th, 2011, 6:54 pm
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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

I honestly think that a prequel series would be better but not based around Lily and James and the Marauders. I think the best place for a prequel series would be either the struggle against Grindewald or set during the time of the Founders (something along the lines of Knights of the Old Republic in the Star Wars universe). It would be interesting to see the exact reasons why the Founders formed Hogwarts and what sort of world they lived in.


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Old May 8th, 2011, 3:02 am
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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

It would most definately be possible for her to write 1,000 books in this series simply because the world JK made is so vast and immersive. She can write about so many different things. The fact is though it would NEVER measure up to Harry Potter. Not even close


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Old May 8th, 2011, 3:16 am
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It would most definately be possible for her to write 1,000 books in this series simply because the world JK made is so vast and immersive. She can write about so many different things. The fact is though it would NEVER measure up to Harry Potter. Not even close
Well she could still try. People like you who share this viewpoint are too scared of failure. "A loser is not someone who tries and fails, a loser is someone who fails to try." She is a great writer and great writer's can't simply not write she will one day return to write in the Potterverse (hopefully soon).


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Old May 8th, 2011, 3:58 am
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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

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Aside from the Encyclopedia, I would probably be over the moon if JKR decided to write a book set during the time of the founding of Hogwarts. Or a novel centering on Dumbledore's life.

I don't think I would read any novels set in the HP world not written by JKR, just as I have no interest in reading the sequel to Gone With the Wind. Even if the plot would be approved by her, it just wouldn't be the same, IMO

As someone who did read the sequel to Gone with the Wind, I can testify to the fact that it didn't come close. It was a fun read, but it was no Margaret Mitchell.


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Old May 8th, 2011, 12:40 pm
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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

I would like to see a book (or book series) based on another magical student instead of the characters we already know, either during the 19 years after the battle or during Albus Severus's time at Hogwarts.


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Old May 26th, 2011, 3:17 am
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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

It certainly would be interesting if another book about the Wizarding world was written. While it appears there is no more antagonist, I would say that a world without some antagonist would be inconceivable. I would like to see a book dealing with Malfoys putting them into the spotlight. We should consider just what that particular family is like and possibly what could be creeping in that odd history of theirs. We could also go an alternative route and explore magic in which we've not seen before, eastern or middle eastern, stepping out of tradition, or even tribal magic or voodoo from the American side of things etc... there are just so many different things that can be done.


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Old May 27th, 2011, 11:41 am
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I want parts of the series through Hermione's perspective to be penned by Jo. There is SO much of that character that is yet to be understood. Its clear through her actions, but since she is the most closed of the three characters (well Harry is actually, but we know what he thinks because its his perspective), and I really still love her all the same, I would love to read about her motivations and her childhood and exactly how she evolved through the years in Hogwarts. I know an entire series is impossible, but just insights into her character through her perspective in important moments would be awesome.

Maybe Jo should consider that. After all Hermione is her favourite character (I was shocked when she said Harry recently, because before that I always got the impression that it was actually hermione).


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Old May 28th, 2011, 10:13 am
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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

There are so many possibilities!

I like the idea about a book from Neville's point of view of Hogwarts in Deathly Hallows.

I also think a book about the immediate aftermath, ie the first year or two, after the war would be good - about the characters picking up the pieces of what is left over of their previous lives.

I would welcome anything JK writes about Harry's magical world but these two ideas are would I would most like to see.


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I honestly think that a prequel series would be better but not based around Lily and James and the Marauders. I think the best place for a prequel series would be either the struggle against Grindewald or set during the time of the Founders (something along the lines of Knights of the Old Republic in the Star Wars universe). It would be interesting to see the exact reasons why the Founders formed Hogwarts and what sort of world they lived in.
I love the idea of a prequel! It would be great to see how Hogwarts came to existence and the lives of the founders are revealed.


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She can write about so many different things.
Well, we're yet to see evidence of that.


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Re: Future Novels in the Harry Potter World.

I would honestly read anything about the world of Harry Potter. A prequel set in the marauders time, or a book about Dumbledore and Grindelwald, or even a book about the founder's of Hogwarts, you name, I'll read it


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Old June 19th, 2011, 9:18 pm
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I love the idea of a prequel! It would be great to see how Hogwarts came to existence and the lives of the founders are revealed.
I'm glad you share this view. I would write a fanfic on it but I've really got too many ideas for stories floating around in my head anyway (including a couple of HP fanfics) that I don't think I'd get any of them finished in a lifetime.

I think going into the future is a possibility, but then why would a new Dark Lord be intimidating if he wasn't more dangerous than Voldermort and wouldn't that take away from the impact of the first series?


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I would love, more than anything, a book or series on the Maurader's Era. There is/could be so much content on that, and some of the most beloved characters of the fans are from that time period. I personally would like a lot more information on James, who is my favorite Maurader, who we have the least background information on of any of them. It would be awesome to read about Snape as well, and the interaction he had with Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs. Plus I'd like to know what they got up to on a daily basis as we only have the highlights of their years at Hogwarts.


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If JK writes anymore novels set in the world she created for HP I'd personally prefer it if it was about someone/events that have nothing to do with the HP series. Failing that a book about the founders or Dumbledore/Grindelwald would be pretty fascinating.


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Old June 20th, 2011, 8:33 am
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I would love, more than anything, a book or series on the Maurader's Era. There is/could be so much content on that, and some of the most beloved characters of the fans are from that time period. I personally would like a lot more information on James, who is my favorite Maurader, who we have the least background information on of any of them. It would be awesome to read about Snape as well, and the interaction he had with Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs. Plus I'd like to know what they got up to on a daily basis as we only have the highlights of their years at Hogwarts.
The danger of this is that it might end as a Lucasequel (which refers to the fact that the prequel trilogy was basically a rehash of the original trilogy but with rubbish characters and ludricrous special effects), which would be very disappointing. I would however like to see James Potter alive at some point. (I can't believe that we have seen all of his personality in a few memories of Severus Snape and the HP Prequel.


 
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