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Old July 27th, 2010, 8:05 pm
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One possible script:
Albus Potter was somehow sorted into Slytherin. His brother, James, teased him relentlessly. His family became a bit distant (despite their acceptance). The Weasleys were cautious although still loving. The Slytherins were suspicious; some tried to isolate him. The Gryffindor teachers were astonished and started to discuss it behind his back. Albus was frustrated and angry. He was a powerful and gifted wizard anyway. He tried to make people understand about his ability. He collected some followers. He resented those who questioned him, including his extended family and the Gryffindors... so he decided to be the next Dark Lord. :/


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Old July 31st, 2010, 4:39 am
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Yes, there will absolutely be another dark wizard on the same scale as Voldemort or Grindelwald because history repeats itself. People make the same decisions, good and bad. But I wouldnt count of JK Rowling to write those books though.


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Old July 31st, 2010, 4:44 am
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Yes, there will absolutely be another dark wizard on the same scale as Voldemort or Grindelwald because history repeats itself. People make the same decisions, good and bad. But I wouldnt count of JK Rowling to write those books though.
The cycle will inevitably repeat itself. The world's not rainbows and butterflies, it will never be perfect. The only thing the world has to rely on is that there will be people in place to stop the next dark wizard.


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Old August 26th, 2010, 4:47 pm
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The cycle will inevitably repeat itself. The world's not rainbows and butterflies, it will never be perfect. The only thing the world has to rely on is that there will be people in place to stop the next dark wizard.
Oh, not that I'm excited that there possibly might be another Dark Lord, but the idea of our little trio is just so fun!! And a new DA army, with ipods and all ! well magical ipods


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Old August 27th, 2010, 1:50 pm
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I definitely do not think Albus should be the next dark lord...hasn't Harry had enough hard things to go through in his life? I don't think we need to put him through hunting down and killing/imprisoning his own son. He and his family/friends deserve a happy ending.

I think, that while the downfall of Voldemort is so fresh in the minds of the population, there won't be anybody seriously willing to take up his spot, but maybe in like...100 years or something.


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Old August 28th, 2010, 7:08 pm
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I definitely do not think Albus should be the next dark lord...hasn't Harry had enough hard things to go through in his life? I don't think we need to put him through hunting down and killing/imprisoning his own son. He and his family/friends deserve a happy ending.

I think, that while the downfall of Voldemort is so fresh in the minds of the population, there won't be anybody seriously willing to take up his spot, but maybe in like...100 years or something.
I agree. Albus was the son of a good guy, even named after a good guy... no evil genes even run through the family!!!


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Old September 16th, 2010, 8:36 pm
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I think the cycle will repeat itself. Voldy was in school when DD defeated Grindelwald. More than likely, then next Dark Lord will be someone who was at the final battle between Harry and Voldy. Someone who paid attention to the conversation between Harry and Voldy, and does the research.
Then of course there is the unclaimed artifact that exists for the new Dark Lord. The wand that is the twin to the great Harry Potter's. The wand that killed more wizards and witches for Voldemort than the Elder Wand ever could. Voldy's first wand. He stashed it some where, probably at Hogwarts since that's where Voldy got the Elder Wand.


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I agree. Albus was the son of a good guy, even named after a good guy... no evil genes even run through the family!!!
Yes, but wouldn't that make it so much more ironic if he did become the next Dark Lord?

I don't really have an opinion on who will be the next Dark Lord, and I think that it is more likely that someone we've never met before will take Voldemort's place. However, my favorite literary device is irony, and I would be delighted if Albus did turn out to be the next dark lord.
And plus there is the 'asp' thing. . .


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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:37 am
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It would be intresting to see how a one raised with so much love from family and friends could go bad. However it can and does happen. I could see a Dark Lord raising again when Harry's grandkids are in hogwarts.


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Old September 23rd, 2010, 12:10 am
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well...that might look odd but I think the next dark lord could be Draco's son..Somehow he looks a good candidate, someone who is looking for the lost glory or something. He belongs to a super proud pure-blood family which had a huge part in the dark magic histroy, (Lucius and Bellatrix) what a great honor to preserve!!

However, I think the next dark lord would have a comlete different dark magic skills, I think it may be more developed than the previous skills.
Magic might have a new styles through the years....


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Old September 23rd, 2010, 5:12 pm
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I agree. Albus was the son of a good guy, even named after a good guy... no evil genes even run through the family!!!
Solution, kill off all the families known to have 'evil genes' and purify the wizarding world.[/tounge in cheek] Still, I'm not fond of the idea of certain families being born evil.

As for what I would want, how about the evil coming from another source. Perhaps someone grows up seeing their muggle father abused and starts targeting purebloods or goes a little too far in their anti-pureblood-predjudice. Maybe the (hypothetical) child of Ernie Macmillian and Susan Bones will be the next dark lord and the parents or siblings will be forced to play a major role in bringing the child they love down.

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Old September 26th, 2010, 1:27 am
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Tne next dark lord or lady could be more sophisticated and sadistic. more diplomatic. for me a Slytherin or Ravenclaw


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Old September 26th, 2010, 3:04 am
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I see them as someone who doesn't necessarily do evil thinks like killings (yet) but is someone is obsessed that we can't take care of ourselves and that we need someone to take care of us. Someone who will tell us what we should be doing and what we should not be doing. Perhaps a middle-aged woman or man who has lost their family.

They would start out doing little things, small curses, to convince people that they're right, or thinking they are protecting them from themselves by imperius and crucius. They would be one running for a political office and gathering a political following. It would not come to killing and starting to get out of hand until their mind became more obsessed with their plans and a lot less stable. It would be a bit like how Umbridge got at the end of her tenure at the school...



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Old September 26th, 2010, 4:47 am
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The next Dark Lord eh?....hmmm....I think it should be a witch/wizard who is exceptionally clever, preferably from Ravenclaw. Voldemort, no offense, was a bit stupid and a lot less cunning than I would like a villain to be. He had way too many flaws as a main villain for my taste. A villain who is very devious, who can manipulate and fool people easily, and is much more fearless and evil, is a lot more frightening and thrilling, IMO. Above all, I wish to see this new Dark Lord be incognito. What's worse than having a murderer on the loose? Not knowing who it is! He/she could be anyone, from the person sitting next to you on a bus to a person who is your professor at Hogwarts. Having a disguised villain is far more spooky!


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Old September 26th, 2010, 6:06 am
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The next Dark Lord eh?....hmmm....I think it should be a witch/wizard who is exceptionally clever, preferably from Ravenclaw. Voldemort, no offense, was a bit stupid and a lot less cunning than I would like a villain to be. He had way too many flaws as a main villain for my taste. A villain who is very devious, who can manipulate and fool people easily, and is much more fearless and evil, is a lot more frightening and thrilling, IMO. Above all, I wish to see this new Dark Lord be incognito. What's worse than having a murderer on the loose? Not knowing who it is! He/she could be anyone, from the person sitting next to you on a bus to a person who is your professor at Hogwarts. Having a disguised villain is far more spooky!
Personally I think the next one shouldn't be a Ravenclaw. Or a Slytherin. Or a Gryffindor or Hufflepuff.


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Old September 26th, 2010, 9:27 am
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Personally I think the next one shouldn't be a Ravenclaw. Or a Slytherin. Or a Gryffindor or Hufflepuff.
That's always an option. He/she could've attented Durmstrang like Grindelwald, or Beauxbaton (although I cannot imagine people from this school turning evil. ). But the witch/wizard HAS to attend some magical school. Where else would he/she learn all the magic?

But if I had to pick a villain, I would've have picked someone from Hogwarts for sure. And if the person was from Hogwarts, then he/she must've belonged to some House. Therefore, I picked Ravenclaw. But an outsider is totally possible too.


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Old December 15th, 2010, 12:55 pm
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I just opened my own thread but it got closed and this one was one of three that got recommended to me, so I'll post the entry here. ^^

Is this really peace for the wizarding world?

In the early 20th century they had Grindelwald, in the latter half they had Voldemort. Is this really peace?

After all, we have a confusing prophecy that has sparked so much discussion within the wizarding world and without it, among us fans. "Neither can live while the other survives" is pretty clear, yet there's a lot of leeway: "A prophecy needn't necessarily come true" and "The wording can be read in a lot of ways".

Personally, I am sure that Trelawney originally meant that Voldemort and Harry would have to kill each other. This was actually confirmed, but it turns out Voldemort only had to kill a PART of Harry; the part that was his own horcrux, and Harry survived because he was protected by "a mother's love".

Now, I think the "mothers love" explanation is too weak to fill THAT plothole. "Why does Harry survive the Dark Lord?" - "Because his mummy loved him." I'm not buying it.

But regardless of that, truly, I swear that my first thought while reading DH for the first time was "He's still in there." I read the Epilogue with a sense of foreboding, like the calm before a storm. I don't trust the peace.

I know JKR wants the series to be done with, but just because I (who am I? xD) don't trust the peace that doesn't mean she has to write another 7 books. Believe me when I say this feeling doesn't come from my desperation to read more (I still need to finish 3 Volumes of Tolkien's Unfinished Tales, AND get a qualification in journalism! I have enough words on my hands.)

It does mean that I wish to know whether I'm the only one feeling a sense of unease at the end of DH. Because if for some reason there was a part of Voldemort still alive in Harry, that would be horrible, especially as Harry is the Wizarding World's Pillar of Righteousness, their absolute hero and saviour, the unquestioned authority on all things Voldemort after Dumbledore (who is, sadly, deceased.)

If Voldemort had somehow planned for all of this to happen so he could secretly sneak his way to the top of the Wizarding World without anyone even suspecting him ...then he couldn't have planned it better, could he?

Of course, "a mother's love" stands in the way of that theory. But I'm trying to find people who find that excuse as ridiculous as I do and are willing to discuss this, which is, after all, only a theory with no backing from the author and no firm roots in canon etc etc

But... even if he doesn't come back, or come back through Harry, who's to say Voldemort is the last Dark Lord?


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Old December 15th, 2010, 2:43 pm
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While I'm sure there will be another Dark Lord, somewhere, some time, it needn't be for many years, or even in Britain, for that matter. History tends to repeat itself, but not necessarily every single generation. (And if we ever learned from it like we're supposed to, it wouldn't repeat itself as often as it does! But then, both greed and complacency, the two opposing but complementary primary qualities that allow evil men to come to power, are powerful forces that refuse to be quelled, as they are both a part of human nature )
Insofar as another story goes, I'd find it boring - been there, done that. There are plenty of other challenges the wizarding world will face, and they're just as story-worthy; a full out goblin rebellion, for example, or the accidental (or maliciously deliberate) revelation of the WW to muggles worldwide, etc..


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Old December 15th, 2010, 6:04 pm
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I like the idea of a goblin rebellion!

But like I said in this post, I can absolutely see Harry becoming Minister of Magic later in life, and if Voldemort was still present in him then, that would be the perfect moment for him to make himself noticed to Harry, take over his mind and body, and rule the wizarding world quietly, subtly making new laws that aimed towards his final goal of purity. The wizarding world wouldn't notice for years, until it was too late and they were utterly ensnared in a spiderweb that was even harder to get out of than either of the times before.


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Old December 15th, 2010, 6:51 pm
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I think what would fit the story would be:
1. Harry was protected by divine right that he be the "one" to recieve, and decide what the fate was, of the Deathly Hallows.
2. That the next Dark Lord would be an illegitimate child of Bellatrix Le Strange that she had with a muggle (fits with Voldy's Daddy)--and so there would be that child's army against muggles AND the Death Eaters; as Bella was a death eater and never aknowledged her own child.
3. The resurrection stone was never properly destroyed--only hidden in the forest. I would say that Bella's illegitimate child would use it to get to Voldy and Voldy would enjoy training up another muggle killer.


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