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Re: Ginevra (Ginny) Weasley: Character Analysis
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I agree with Eliza 101...the scenes/evidence are there, interspersed throughout the books. I think JKR did a very good job with Ginny's character development; we have a sense of who she is, we see her change over time; we see how well Ginny & Harry get along; and more importantly, as we see Harry develop over the series, we can see how Ginny would be the type of person who would match up well with Harry. Quote:
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Re: Ginevra (Ginny) Weasley: Character Analysis
I think it is not really appreciated just how young Harry and Ginny were. Harry is 18 and Ginny 17 when Voldemort is killed. Harry has been on the run and in hiding for 9 months. totally cut off from everything. Ron felt that isolation and he kind of broke under it. Hermione held on, sometimes I think by her fingertips. It's very hard to have a romance when the two people in the romance are separated and there are no letters going between them. Harry and Ginny happened at the end of HBP, that was it. I have always thought that the real romance happened between 'The Flaw in the Plan' and the Epilogue. I say that because we see Harry and Ginny very happy together with their children. Do I miss their big romantic scenes, the dating, the proposal, then the wedding. Not really, I loved the adventure. I also think that Ginny existed outside of her romance with Harry. I would have liked to read about Ginny, one of the leaders of the resistance at Hogwarts, the big Quidditch star and then the sharp reporter. But it wasn't Ginny's story, it was Harry's.
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Ginny could also have become a friend to Harry in her own right. Not his BFF of course. But she could've been on the same level as Fred and George, who aren't part of Harry's "inner circle" but are still more to him than just "Ron's brothers". And if the connection between Harry and Ginny created by the events in CoS would've been used to its full potential, this could've given some depth to their relationship which would make a nice foundation for their future love. Certainly a better foundation than Ginny's childish celebrity crush from the first two books, which a lot of people seem to take as the first hints of true love, something I can't understand at all (If that type of silly behaviour means anything, Harry also has to marry Dedalus Diggle). Quote:
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But she's NOT Fred and George. The fact that she had a crush on him for years proves that she couldn't have suddenly changed from a shy girl to her original personality in less than a book. IMO, that would be much less realistic. In OoTP is where she finally does join Harry's "inner circle," she shows her real personality in front of Harry. I don't see what's so bad about losing her shyness around GoF-OoTP when all the puzzle pieces of Ginny's personality were littered throughout the first four books. We're meant to interpret her personality through that. And there were definitely hints of H/G getting together in the future in OoTP. Small, but still hints. In the Quidditch match with Ravenclaw, Ginny snatches the snitch out of Cho's nose. In Christmastime, Hermione suggests playfully that maybe when Harry and Ginny thought that they didn't look at each other, instead they kept missing each other. Ron, at the end, suggests to Ginny to "choose someone better next time" and "casts an oddly furtive look at Harry". The latter was the biggest clue, I think.
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Mhm. I agree. Even from Book 2, I remember something like, "Ginny emerged from under the table with her face glowing like the setting sun." I never would have guessed Harry would make such poetic descriptions of a girl before. xD
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I've noticed that a lot of people on these forums seem to be confused about how Third Person Narrative works. Here's a little overview that explains it quite well: Understanding Third Person Narrative POV.
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Harry doesn't really notice Ginny until HBP, and I believe that's why details about the character are sparse, and she appears to not be very well developed. We only really learn about her when other characters are discussing her with Harry, or the handful of times when he does notice her. I think it feels forced because JKR didn't start to have Harry focus on her until the storyline in the novels had so much else going on. I like her. She seems strong, and brave, and someone easy for Harry to talk to, and she could talk to him as well. She learned to hold her own from having all those brothers, and was not someone who cried alot. She didn't spend chapters weeping over lost boyfriends - she picked herself up and moved on.
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Re: Ginevra (Ginny) Weasley: Character Analysis
Some meandering off the topic going on here.
Also, please do not bicker about the meaning of literary terminology or "correct" other members' use of it.
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Re: Ginevra (Ginny) Weasley: Character Analysis
A lot of people seem to be saying that Ginny's character changed too suddenly and it was hard to take, but I think she was supposed to be written that way. We're seeing everything through Harry's eyes, and giving Ginny this sudden personality change shows how much she was ignored by Harry in the earlier books. The lovesick 11-year-old we meet in CoS is quite irritating, because we see her the way Harry sees her - Ron's little sister.
Let's be honest, Harry can be quite tactless and I think Ginny's sudden turnaround reflects that well.
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I have to wonder, what would the series have been like if it was told from multiple POVs like the Song of Fire and ice books were? We probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Re: Ginevra (Ginny) Weasley: Character Analysis
I just felt that Ginny in DH was rather pointless, I mean unlike the other main female character [hermione] who was shown fighting alongside harry to the very end. Hermione is shown as a strong female character this is a complete contrast to Ginny. Ginny didn't really do much in this book which really upset me it seemed more to gear up to her becoming a wife and mother.
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Re: Ginevra (Ginny) Weasley: Character Analysis
Ginny didn't do as much onpage in DH only because she was still underage. And don't forget: although we don't have it written out for us, Ginny did join with Neville and Luna to re-form the DA to resist Snape and the Carrows, and they tried to get the Sword of Gryffindor from the Head's office for Harry.
Ginny wanted so much to help at the Battle of Hogwarts, but all anyone else said to her was no, you're too young, go back home, stay safe, you can't fight because you're only sixteen so stay in the RoR until it's safe to come out. When Ginny got the chance, she ducked out and joined the fight. She was one of the three students fighting Bellatrix at the very end. She was out in the courtyard helping the wounded during the hour-long reprieve that Voldemort gave them for Harry to give himself up. I think Ginny did plenty to prove her worth in DH.
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Ginny had children once her professional Quiddich playing days were over, and once she become a mother she continued on as a correspondent. The author saw her as much more than just a homemaker (although being a homemaker is important in and of itself, i think). Ginny never struck me personally as a younger version of Molly.
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Ginny wanted so much to help at the Battle of Hogwarts, but all anyone else said to her was no, you're too young, go back home, stay safe, you can't fight because you're only sixteen so stay in the RoR until it's safe to come out. When Ginny got the chance, she ducked out and joined the fight. She was one of the three students fighting Bellatrix at the very end. She was out in the courtyard helping the wounded during the hour-long reprieve that Voldemort gave them for Harry to give himself up. I think Ginny did plenty to prove her worth in DH. I complety forgot that Ginny was underage and a year younger than the trio.So to add to my first point Ginny is very brave and smart even if don't hermione smart. In this battle she was one of the three [with hermione/ginny/molly] fighting and all three of the woman proved thier worth her. One thing which I loved about her was the way she dealth with the break up with harry. Similarity when comparing with Bella Swan [Twlight] who just broke down when Edward left. Sorry about the rant there |
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Re: Ginevra (Ginny) Weasley: Character Analysis
Continued from the Harry Potter character analysis thread discussing Harry and Ginny's kid's names:
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As far as how Ginny got pulled in the OOTP/MoM sequence, she overheard Harry yelling about the 'saving people' comment Hermione had made and came into the classroom they were in to investigate. She and Luna were recruited to help keep watch outside umbridge's office when the trio went into to talk to Sirius (who Kreacher said wasn't there) and she was then apprehended by the Inquisitorial Squad. (I know Neville came along in there somewhere but can't think of how right now and it doesn't really matter in the context of what we're talking about.) She and Luna were more swept along in the quest than made the conscious decision to save Sirius, IMO, and anyway it was never clearely stated why Ginny, Luna and Neville went along on the mission. For me Ginny would probably have wanted to go along with it because she had such a big crush on Harry. (DH, Out of the Fire and Fight and Flight) Luna, along with James and Lily, seemed an appropriate name to give her daughter since both she and Harry have a strong friendship with her. Lily Luna is the kids' name I have the fewest objections to because it seems the most balanced between Harry and Ginny. Both the boys' names are so heavily weighted toward Harry it seems ridiculous. Quote:
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Albus was Harry's contribution, IMO, and had nothing to do with Ginny's feelings about the man. I think she approved of the choice because Dumbledore was a good man, stood up for his beliefs and she knew how much Dumbledore had meant to Harry. And i'm not going there with Severus, it's been covered in Harry's CA thread and just about beaten to death there, no use kicking a dead horse.
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I don't think it really matters how much of a personal relationship Ginny had with any of those people. They were important to her regardless. Ginny knew about Harry's parents before he did - they were heroes to her when Harry still thought they died in a car crash. Dumbledore was widely regarded as a hero and the Weasleys in particular admired him a great deal - and that seemed to be mutual because Dumbledore always spoke well of the Weasleys. Sirius was someone that Ginny did spend time with when they were all staying at Grimmauld Place - and Ginny actually spent more time with Sirius than Harry did overall because they had left him at Privet Dr. for so long that summer. Sirius was there for them when Arthur was injured - giving them a place to stay and sitting up with them while they waited to hear what Arthur's condition was. Really, I can't think of any reason why Ginny wouldn't like all of those names and want to use them. Her parents already had namesakes, she had a nephew named Fred, and the remainder of her brothers were still living. Another factor is that we always see that the Weasley kids liked to stand out from each other - a result of constantly being lumped together with statements like "another Weasley". That was more of an issue with Ron, but it was also apparent with Percy, the twins, and Ginny as well. Reusing the same names within the same generation wouldn't be standing out - it would be blending in.
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