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Old July 24th, 2007, 8:33 am
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Re: Teddy Remus Lupin (Or, what happens when a werewolf and metamorphmagus have a chi

Teddy doesnt seem to have too much wolfish characteristics, but again, we see him too little in the books. Assuming Victoire doesnt mind the fact that Teddy is a werewolf, (based on assuming that Teddy told her, and based on assumign that Victoire is not shallow) I'd say Teddy would be like 30% werewolf and 70% metamorphmagus.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 8:33 am
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In my opinion, the werewolf gene is probably not passed on, but thats just in my little world, so i think it unlikely that Ted is going to be a werewolf, but theres always a chance..

Technically, werewolfishness is not genetic.....but it could be....damn..let me think


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Old July 24th, 2007, 8:52 am
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In my opinion, the werewolf gene is probably not passed on, but thats just in my little world, so i think it unlikely that Ted is going to be a werewolf, but theres always a chance..

Technically, werewolfishness is not genetic.....but it could be....damn..let me think
Agree. I didnt think that being a werewolf was genetic and apparently Lupin didnt either.

I think he is a metamorphmagus not a werewolf. But if he was I dont think it would matter. Wolfsbane potion is available and I'm sure there have been many discoveries to aid werewolves.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 9:03 am
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I didnt think that being a werewolf was genetic and apparently Lupin didnt either.
He did, though. He couldn't live with the fact that his "condition" could be passed on to his child. Hence the reason why he wanted to escape with Harry and co.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 11:02 am
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Re: Teddy Remus Lupin (Or, what happens when a werewolf and metamorphmagus have a chi

Do you remember ages ago that JKR said there would be another metamorphmagus in the series? I'd been expecting one character to turn out to be somebody else in disguise! I didn't consider for a second it would mean Tonks' having a baby!


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Old July 24th, 2007, 12:19 pm
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Why was Lupin so tormented then?
I thought he was tormented because having a father that could involuntarily kill a child wouldn't make poor teddy overly popular in the friends market


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Old July 24th, 2007, 12:31 pm
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I think a group of fans should get together and write a longer epilogue, with a paragraph about everybody. I'm gonna get right on that...*dashes off*

But a pink (or turquoise, considering the picture Remus showed Fleur ) werewolf would be funky! But I just suppose he prefers VERY rare meat.

And I read Victoire as Victor too, and I'm like - "***? You have to be kidding me?". I was wondering if the whole slash passed on through generations. WolfStar becomes MetaMorphWolfWeasley!


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Old July 24th, 2007, 12:34 pm
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I wonder if warewolfness is hereditary becuase there doesn't seem to be any evidence in the books apart from Remus' doubts to show that it is and in the state he was in at the time Remus was probobly not really thinking strait.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 12:52 pm
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I don't think that Teddy will be a werewolf but maybe like Bill have some werewolf like traits. My thoughts were that it couldn't be passed on like that, that it was only passed on through a magical bite from a transformed werewolf.

I think that Remus saying those things were a mark of his mental and emotional state at the time and not from careful consideration. Plus if he was indeed the first werewolf to produce a child, the probability is that he really would have no real idea one or another. My thoughts were how would that work, would the child transform in the womb and would that perhaps kill/harm the mother? If you think that those thoughts may well have been flowing through his mind as well as everything else that was going on, it's not hard to see why Remus was so freaked out.

I thought it was really cool that Teddy is a metamorphamagus like his mother, but I thought that was supposed to be really rare?


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Old July 24th, 2007, 12:54 pm
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I think Teddy would have been loved by Andromeda and is obviously loved by Harry and Ginny and their family.

I loved the fact that JKR made it so obvious that there was a huge difference between James and Snape - James was cared for and probably adored, whereas Snape was raised in a house without love. That made me cry! I doubt Harry would make the same mistake about his godson!


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:32 pm
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I'm also of the opinion that Teddy probably had some wolfish characteristics - probably a liking for raw meat, a wolf patronus (or possibly animagus form) - and I wonder if Victoire, (presumably) being Bill's daughter, will have inherited Daddy's fondness for very rare meat?

I love the thought that the son of a werewolf / metamorphmagus was dating the daughter of a part-Veela / near-werewolf. She would have an extraordinary amount of empathy for him - and just imagine how gorgeous their multicolored babies could be! I'd love to see that wolfpack!


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Old July 24th, 2007, 3:52 pm
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Teddy probably spent a good deal of time at Bill and Fleur's over the years. Bill would have spent time talking to Remus during his recovery so they probably developed a good friendship. Bill would be in a unique position to answer questions that Teddy might have if there were inherited werewolf tendencies. Both Teddy and Victorie also have a lot in common (with their fathers) and would both be affected by people behaving differently around them so it's natural that they would gravitate towards each other.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 4:12 pm
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According to Fantastic Beasts, "Humans turn into werewolves only when bitten". Also, according to genetics, traits that one gains during one's life are not passed to one's offspring (e.g., if my hand gets cut off, my children will still be born with hands). All the scientific and canon evidence is that a werewolf does not pass lycanthropy to his child.
Being a metamorphmagus is likely a genetic trait, although it seems to be a bit more complicated than simply passing from parent to child (I don't think either of Tonks's parents are metamorphmagi). But Teddy apparently has inherited this from Tonks.


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According to Fantastic Beasts, "Humans turn into werewolves only when bitten". Also, according to genetics, traits that one gains during one's life are not passed to one's offspring (e.g., if my hand gets cut off, my children will still be born with hands). All the scientific and canon evidence is that a werewolf does not pass lycanthropy to his child.
Being a metamorphmagus is likely a genetic trait, although it seems to be a bit more complicated than simply passing from parent to child (I don't think either of Tonks's parents are metamorphmagi). But Teddy apparently has inherited this from Tonks.
But being a werewolf does warp your genes...

I'm inclined to believe that if the mother was a werewolf, that she might give birth to "cubs" because of the fetus being exposed to the werewolf once a month.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 6:15 pm
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I think being a werewolf is more a disease that is forced onto you. You ahve to get bitten. Kind of like the flu. You catch it. I dont htink there is a genetic part of you that amkes you pass it along, it stays in the host. Teddy is fine, and a happy, normal metamorphmagus.


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Re: Teddy Remus Lupin (Or, what happens when a werewolf and metamorphmagus have a chi

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what i dont get is that teddy is born roughly around the same time Voldemort is defeated......but then 19 years later in the epilogue it says that he is on the Hogwarts Express......if I'm not mistaken doesnt that mean that Teddy is two years to old to be at Hogwarts?
I think that he was just seeing someone off.

Pink werewolf eh? I've always been more partial to a yellow colour, much more interesting. I think that the lycantropy cannot be passed on by genetics, because there is something in the bite that poisons them. most likely a combination of saliva and something in the teeth.


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what i dont get is that teddy is born roughly around the same time Voldemort is defeated......but then 19 years later in the epilogue it says that he is on the Hogwarts Express......if I'm not mistaken doesnt that mean that Teddy is two years to old to be at Hogwarts?
He was seeing off his girlfriend (presumably she is), who is, going by her name and the fact that she's referred to by James II as his cousin, is the daughter of Bill and Fleur, possibly in her final year at Hogwarts.
As for the possibility of lycanthropy, I'm fairly sure Teddy isn't, or there'd have been an offhand reference to another 'furry little problem' . And, as Walpurgis kindly pointed out, humans can only become werewolves when bitten. But given how young James spoke of Teddy, I'm fairly sure he was something of a fixture at Harry and Ginny's once they got married, and spent a fair bit of time with the kids- probably entertained them just the way his mother once amused theirs (remember the nose!), given that his hair was already changing colour by the time Harry and Co. got the news of his birth.



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I'm inclined to believe that if the mother was a werewolf, that she might give birth to "cubs" because of the fetus being exposed to the werewolf once a month.
I like this idea a lot! I also agree that it's been stated as a fact you can only become a werewolf if one bits you. However as Lupin says he's the first werewolf to breed, at lest that he knows. So there still could have been a chance that Teddy would come out like Bill, with some wolfish qualitys. I got the feeling that the metamorphmagus gene would trump the werewolf gene anyway.


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Old July 24th, 2007, 6:37 pm
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I think that he isnt a werewolf because it says you have to bitten to become a werewolf. Technically he wasn't bitten, his parents just got a little busy and they are very unique themselves. It is obvious though that he was a metamorphagus though.


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