Narcissa Malfoy's Revelation

[Mitchamus]

I was just struck with the thought about Narcissa malfoy...

As soon as she feels Harry's heart beating, she know that he IS the chosen one... that the prophecy IS true, and that Voldemort cannot kill Harry.

That must have been a massive realisation for her.... to know that LV will be killed by harry.. and there is nothing that LV can do about it... LV cannot kill harry.... She has seen (I'm inferring here) that LV must also have collapsed at the time, as the DE are concerned about him... so something bad must have happened to LV at the time of the curse...

It must have been a massive shock for her... and a great revelation as she now KNOWS that there is hope for not only saving her son, but for the hope of her family... to escape the persecution of their "Fall from Grace"

It would have been nice to see the Malfoy's switch sides int he final battle seen... but after all they are Syltherins are are only interested in saving their own necks :P

[ravclawprefec]

I think at the time, Narcissa was mainly only concerned with whether Draco was alive. They didn't really switch sides, but they did stay at Hogwarts when all the other death eaters fled. I think they'd been unhappy with Voldie for quite some time, but afraid to switch over.

[adonaichild]

The Malfoy's are such an interesting family - don't you agree?
For claiming to be Voldemort's followers, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty...Malfoy had SO many chances to kill people, but he didn't...and at the end Lucius & Narcissa just wanted to make sure Malfoy was OK...I thought that was really interesting. And they kind of just sat around at the Great Hall with everyone. I just thought that was really interesting.

[steft2]

I too think that her sole motivation was the safety of her son. I think that she was not a death eater (even though she does believe in the pure blood stuff), and had seen Voldemort all but devestate her son with fear, and mentally unbalance her husband (even further than he was to begin with), so that when she had the answer she sought she rewarded the provider of that answer by lying to Voldemort in the hopes that Harry could get her to her family without any further death or injury.

[Mitchamus]

Originally Posted by steft2

I too think that her sole motivation was the safety of her son.

Just as in HBP....

[Rhaella]

I also don't think Cissy was a Death Eater. I think she'd have turned up in that scene in Goblet of Fire had she been, and all in all, she seems like the sort of character who keeps her hands clean and leaves the action to other people (charging Snape with looking after Draco, and even giving Draco her own wand here, perhaps).

It's nice to see her, as someone seemingly so reluctant to act, finally commit one of the most crucial acts of the battle, regardless of her intentions.

I'm not sure that any real desire to see Voldemort destroyed was a part of her decision to betray him. I think all she could think about by then was Draco.

It's interesting how incredibly loyal to kinship the Malfoys turned out, considering how cold they had appeared at first.

[snapegirl]

Originally Posted by ravclawprefec

I think at the time, Narcissa was mainly only concerned with whether Draco was alive. They didn't really switch sides, but they did stay at Hogwarts when all the other death eaters fled. I think they'd been unhappy with Voldie for quite some time, but afraid to switch over.

I agree. She was worried about Draco.I don't think it had anything to do with Harry being the Chosen One. Her only concern was Draco and getting to the castle to see if he was ok.

[hershlag]

Originally Posted by snapegirl77

I agree. She was worried about Draco.I don't think it had anything to do with Harry being the Chosen One. Her only concern was Draco and getting to the castle to see if he was ok.

agreeance! lol
I thought that part was really well done.
It seemed that the worse situations for the world of Harry Potter brought out the best in all characters..even death eaters!
The malfoly's the whole time seemed REALLY uncomfortable and really sick of everything.
Although i wouldnt like having a snake like mass murderer living in my house either

[Kaonashi]

I think towards the end, she just wanted Voldemort gone, and she knew Harry was her best bet.

Think about it. Whatever attachments that the Malfoys had towards Voldemort died from the point that Lucius was in jail and Voldemort gave Draco that task that he was hoping he would be killed while performing, all to punish Lucius for what happened in the Department of Mysteries...which wasn't even his fault!

Then, to add insult to injury, he takes over their manor and makes it clear to all that he has absolutely no respect for them, and makes jokes at their expense. He even smacks Narcissa and makes her go over and check the body. It would serve no purpose to lie to gain entrance into Hogwarts, since if she simply said he was alive Voldemort probably would have smoted him on the spot and would have had Hagrid carry the dead body inside anyway. So I think she figured that a live Harry inside the castle with friends that would help him would tilt the odds more in his favor.

The part where Hogwarts is actively under siege and Lucius and Narcissa are running around screaming for their son made me cry.

[Sub Zero]

Narcissa was and always will be concerned first and foremost with her son Draco. When she heard Harry's heart beating, she just seized the opportunity to ask him if Draco was alive. Then she helped Harry out by faking his death. I won't really say she did it on purpose, but she knew the only way to get to Draco would be for Harry's death to be staged.

At this point in the series, the Malfoys had lost all closeness to Voldemort. He was practically punishing their family for doing absolutely nothing. Snape wound up saving Draco's life, so I'd be willing to bet Lucius and Narcissa would do anything to further protect the well being of their only son.

I always saw the Malfoys as pulling away from Voldemort. They lost all trust and respect in him, I think.

[MrsJoelMadden]

Originally Posted by pg 726 US version

Still feigning death on the ground, he understood. Narcissa knew that the only way she would be permitted to enter Hogwarts, and find her son, was part of the conquering army. She no longer cared whether Voldemort won.

I was going to write an explanation, but the best way is to use the text right from the book. Narcissa's choice to lie had nothing to do with realizing about the prophecy and whatnot. Her only concern was her son, and has been all along, and for that I admire her, especially in that moment because she took such a big risk in not exposing Harry just so she could find Draco. And again it is Voldemort's own stupidity because he did not understand love and therefore never saw Narcissa's betrayal (so to speak) coming.

[lunagranger]

the idea of narcissa realsiing that harry is the only one who can kill voldemort might be true..but I thinl the only concern she had was that she could have draco saved...more than anything else...but it was good that mother's love did hit her to realisation!

[Credo Buffa]

Narcissa is such an interesting character. I imagine that she is the kind of person who, having grown up among pureblood supremacists, ended up trapped in a life that ended up harming herself and her family. In the end, she probably only ever supported Voldemort because her husband did, because she had to in order to stay safe. She only ever really cared about her family, and like MrsJoel so aptly puts it, that was Voldemort's big mistake.

[Xceptional]

Well i guess JK Rowling kind of showed that they had LOVE and as a family they loved each other so they couldn't possibly be on the side of Voldy. And it kind of shows that the other Death Eaters dont have families cause they can't...

[flamelda]

Originally Posted by Xceptional

Well i guess JK Rowling kind of showed that they had LOVE and as a family they loved each other so they couldn't possibly be on the side of Voldy. And it kind of shows that the other Death Eaters dont have families cause they can't...

Actually we never saw other Death Eaters families close up. Despicable as they may be, there may be some others like the Malfoys who regretted joining Voldemort. They had little choice once they joined because he had control over them and their families. There also were some really nasty ones who would be DE's no matter what (see Bellatrix).

I think Narcissa was mostly worried about her son and getting to him, but at that point, after all the worry and threats that Voldemort had put them through, she would have been quite happy for Harry to defeat him and put an end to it all.

[twinsrule26]

Originally Posted by Sub Zero

Narcissa was and always will be concerned first and foremost with her son Draco. When she heard Harry's heart beating, she just seized the opportunity to ask him if Draco was alive. Then she helped Harry out by faking his death. I won't really say she did it on purpose, but she knew the only way to get to Draco would be for Harry's death to be staged.

I believe that She Did do it on purpose . She wanted to get to her son so badly that she had no trouble lying to Voldemort about Harry being dead .

Originally Posted by Kaonashi

I think towards the end, she just wanted Voldemort gone, and she knew Harry was her best bet.

Think about it. Whatever attachments that the Malfoys had towards Voldemort died from the point that Lucius was in jail and Voldemort gave Draco that task that he was hoping he would be killed while performing, all to punish Lucius for what happened in the Department of Mysteries...which wasn't even his fault!

I learned a long time ago in real life never to anger a Mother or threaten her child . Narcissa was both angered and her only child was threatened by Voldemort! I believe that is the worst thing Voldemort could have done in regards to the Malfoy family! Narcissa saw that Voldemort had failed again to kill Harry and she new that Harry could and most likely would defeat Voldemort . This she new would give her the chance to save her son ,so she risked her life to lie and say Harry was dead.

Revenge is sweet is what I think she was thinking .

twins

[SinLooWho]

Originally Posted by MrsJoelMadden

I was going to write an explanation, but the best way is to use the text right from the book. Narcissa's choice to lie had nothing to do with realizing about the prophecy and whatnot. Her only concern was her son, and has been all along, and for that I admire her, especially in that moment because she took such a big risk in not exposing Harry just so she could find Draco. And again it is Voldemort's own stupidity because he did not understand love and therefore never saw Narcissa's betrayal (so to speak) coming.

Yeah, I put something about this in the Final Death Scene thread...

Anyway, I think that Voldemort's lack of understanding of love was reitterated here. Narcissa is only concerned for her son. It's a mother's love, a love that all children should have begun life knowing, and Voldemort did not even have that. I think that when Harry told her yes, that her son was alive in the castle, she felt that she owed him something for the news. It was just such a joy to know that her son was not among the dead and Harry was the one that had given her that. Where as all Voldemort ever did was strip her family bare. I mean he even punished her sister, who was so loyal to him.

[Sub Zero]

Originally Posted by twinsrule26

I believe that She Did do it on purpose . She wanted to get to her son so badly that she had no trouble lying to Voldemort about Harry being dead.

No no, what I meant was that she didn't help Harry on purpose. I know she lied on purpose, but she did it for her son and the family. Her main goal wasn't necessarily helping Harry out.

[Joanna]

That scene was really heart-wrenching for me. It showed a lot of character depth for Narcissa. Her main concern and love for Draco kind of humanized the entire Malfoy family.

[kenneth90]

I think Narcissa have known how dangerous Voldy was. She and Lucius hated Voldy when they saw how Voldy treated their son for revenge. I am pleased to see the Malfoys realised the truth.