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Old September 4th, 2007, 7:12 pm
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True but she didn't put her families life in danger,Draco's life was already in danger.I just personally believe that her actions served only her purpose(in true Slytherin manner actually)
What I meant by family was Lucius. Besides, I agree with Fleur, there was a good chance Voldemort could have gone after her, Lucius and Draco in the Great Hall once he realized she lied to him.


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Old September 4th, 2007, 7:49 pm
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A good point. Basically, in the glade, Narcissa placed hers, Lucius and Draco's lives in Harry's hands. The moment she lied to Voldemort, it was win or lose for the Malfoys. She's lucky Harry was the master of the Elder Wand, since both the AK and the Crucio didn't affecth him.

And the part where Lucius and Narcissa runs an obstacle course through the battle searching for Draco is a very touching family moment, because it's them. We'd expect it from any other family, but we got to see the Malfoys vulnerable, and fighting to save themselves.


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Old September 5th, 2007, 2:52 am
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I don't know if any of you read the editorial columns on mugglenet, but the spinner's end column discusses this subject expertly. Read Spinner's End #26 - Finite Incantatem, especially the subheading 'A Power The Dark Lord Knows Not', and you'll see my main source for this point...

basically, Voldemort's downfall was that he kept on picking on mothers' kids without considering the grave consequences that come with it. hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, but i'd rather deal with an angry ex than an angry mother any day! scary!!! Don't Mess With Mama's Babies is a theme through the whole series, but especially in the final book:

1. the obvious - Lily sacrifices herself to save Harry. This has been discussed at length, right in print in the books and elsewhere. Voldy's most famous mistake, but he never learns from it

2. Narcissa - not only did Voldemort punish her son and basically set him up for a death sentence, he tortured her with it and drew it out to sustain her agony. I get the feeling she was never a gung-ho Voldy supporter anyway (we never see her in a death eater's mask), but the moment he starts hurting Draco, he makes himself a bitter enemy in his own inner circle. A really boneheaded move.

3. Molly Weasely - yeah, I know it was actually Bellatrix more than Voldemort here, but she's his #1 lieutenant. I won't belabor the point, but I've got to see it in print one more time... "Not my daughter you b **** !!!"

4. Xeno Lovegood - I know he's a dad, not a mom, but bear with me here. this is an example of things working the opposite way too. Xeno was one of Harry's biggest supporters, and I'm sure time in Azkaban was one of the more pleasant things he was threatened with if he didn't cooperate with the DE's. but the only thing that made him crack was when they took his daughter. I wish he had gotten the chance to redeem himself, I really liked that goofball.

5. The Longbottoms - one of my favorite moments was hearing about Neville's grandmother kicking some death eater butt!! something tells me Frank and Alice gave her a little inspiration in that fight.

I know this was a little off subject, but what I'm trying to get at is this: I don't think Narcissa had a revelation and was converted into believing in Harry being the Chosen One. I think she was being a mom, and that's a lot more powerful than a belief in some mystical prophecy.

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Old September 5th, 2007, 3:13 am
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I think she was getting quite tired of having Voldemort in her house and she knew he had been quite close to killing them many times. She probably also knew Harry was the best hope at defeating Voldemort which would make their family safe again. She probably also thought taking a shot at being free again was better than continuing to live fearing for her life.


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basically, Voldemort's downfall was that he kept on picking on mothers' kids without considering the grave consequences that come with it. hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, but i'd rather deal with an angry ex than an angry mother any day! scary!!! Don't Mess With Mama's Babies is a theme through the whole series, but especially in the final book:
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I know this was a little off subject, but what I'm trying to get at is this: I don't think Narcissa had a revelation and was converted into believing in Harry being the Chosen One. I think she was being a mom, and that's a lot more powerful than a belief in some mystical prophecy.

Go Moms!!!


exactly! I remember the discussions we had prior to HBP - it wasn't sure in which way Lily's sacrifice had worked, and many of us said 'But every real mother would have done the same! Can it be possible that in the history of the magic world, not a single mother ever tried to jump between a curse and her kid? Surely, even Narcissa Malfoy would have done the same, you needn't be a nice person to want to protect your child!'


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She probably also thought taking a shot at being free again was better than continuing to live fearing for her life.
She must have been really fed up with the situation to dare this. We heard Phineas - Slytherins aren't foolhardy, but they can be brave, too. I thought it was brave to try lying to Voldemort, even if her motive wasn't of the Holier Than Thou kind.


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Old September 5th, 2007, 6:56 pm
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I think she was sick of LV and what he was doing, I think she acted tough in HBP for her son more than her own pride. And in the DH I think by that time she was sick of what LV was doing to people and to her own family that she didn't care who got rid of him. Weather it was Harry or any one else, she just wanted to feel free of LV. Now on the other hand her sister Bella didn't feel that way. She was fully into LV, if he had a heart and a good soul I think Bella and LV would have ended up together the way she went on about him LOl!


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Old September 5th, 2007, 8:06 pm
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I have the feeling that Narcissa was never really behind Voldemort at all. I think that while she did support blood purity - read the Madam Malkin's scene in HBP for proof - she wasn't prepared to use force to propagate her beliefs through the wizarding world. I don't see her as ever having worked for Voldemort's benefit. In fact, I can't think of anything that she did of her own will that helped Voldemort. Too bad Voldie didn't realize that.


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In fact, I can't think of anything that she did of her own will that helped Voldemort. Too bad Voldie didn't realize that.
Bad for who...?


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Old September 5th, 2007, 9:41 pm
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I think she was being a mom, and that's a lot more powerful than a belief in some mystical prophecy.

Go Moms!!!
As a mom, this is exactly how I see it. And ya know what, Jo is a mom too!

I don't even think Narcissa had any thoughts about Voldemort except that he was a threat to her child and she was going to do anything, ANYTHING to protect her child.

[Very personal side note and I'm not sure if I'll get in trouble for it but...I harbor the belief that this story could only be written by a mom and not a dad. I'm also not so sure a non-parental female could write this story as the perspective is uniquely from a mom's point of view, at least to me. But, I am open-minded about this.]


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