Umbridge - unpunished?

[guad]

One of the things I had been looking to has been JKR announcement that she would 'torture' Umbridge a bit more.
Unfortunately it didn't happen. And if Umbridge was already horrible in OotP, in DH she is even more.

So anybody else disappointed that Umbridge didn't suffer any bad destiny?

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by guad

So anybody else disappointed that Umbridge didn't suffer any bad destiny?

I wasn't expecting to see Umbridge back in power, but there she was with her toad like face, being even more unfair than she was in Ootp.

I for one thing would have loved to see her die in the end, but one doesn't get everything...

[funny_grrl]

I agree. Even though Harry stunned her and they got the locket and escaped, I didn't feel like she really got her comeuppance.

[wickedwickedboy]

Yes! I agree. If JKR needed people to show the ideology "war means death" I think Umbridge would have been a great candidate. The thought of her still skipping about with her bows and cats in the wizard world is unnerving!

[Smiggles]

Her departure from the story seemed SO anti-climatic given the buildup from OotP and her cruelty in DH. She was stunned and then poof, everyone's gone...I'm curious as to whether the Dementors in the room sucked her soul out while she was stunned.

That'd be AWESOME

[IMissPadfoot]

Yes, I was defnitely disappointed that Umbridge didn't get at least tortured if not killed. It was a shame after all she did to everyone at Hogwarts, that she didn't get what she deserved.

[jordmundt6]

I'm glad others noticed this, but there is a distinct possiblity that, left totally unprotected by Yaxley--who only just managed to wriggle out of there ahead of the dementors, Ms. Umbridge was Kissed--and that would have been the PERFECT punishment, robbing her not only of a meaningful life, but robbing her of an afterlife as well. The only other person I wished to see punished who manifestly wasn't, was Rita Skeeter.

[bmephisto]

!! you are right, i totally forgot about that. She would have been quite a good candidate for death

[Fellyphone]

I thought she was evil enough in OoTP but she was even more so in DH!

I think given all the suffering she had caused and lives she must have destroyed, she should have gotten more than just a stunning spell. I was hoping for some karma to get back at her.

[Henry514]

I thought it was implied that Umbridge was kissed. Also, I was expecting Harry to shout "CRUCIO!" (Yes, in all caps) instead of just stunning her. Seeing Umbridge writhe...ah.

[Rhea7]

I was hoping the same thing Henry514. I didn't want her to be in power still, still toturing others for her own enjoyment. But, what I found very comical, apparently the world is "split into good people and death eaters!" (OOTP, Sirius.)

[Kashman]

I was very disappointed that Umbridge did not get her punishment. I def. was looking forward to seeing her get punished! Major downer in the book.

[The Obsesser]

I was expecting her to be doing more horrific things in DH, because as Hermionie said, "I have a feeling Umbridge has only just started being horrible." I mean, her rounding-up and persecution of Muggle-borns and Half-bloods was a bit over the top for what I expected, but it wasn't totally out of the blue.

That said, an epilogue where we hear that she gets something of what she deserves (even if it was just being fired from the Ministry) would have been nice.

[JediBeldarine]

Originally Posted by jordmundt6

I'm glad others noticed this, but there is a distinct possiblity that, left totally unprotected by Yaxley--who only just managed to wriggle out of there ahead of the dementors, Ms. Umbridge was Kissed--and that would have been the PERFECT punishment, robbing her not only of a meaningful life, but robbing her of an afterlife as well. .

I, too, was pretty sure that Umbridge got "kissed" by the dementors. Once Yaxley and Umbridge were stunned, the dementors completely lost control and converged on the one who was completely terrified. It's not too hard to think that Yaxley and Umbridge awoke at the same time (when the Patronus was dissipating), Yaxley throws Umbridge "under the bus" (so to say) and leaves her behind to face the wrath of the dementors. Umbridge isn't a singularly impressive witch, so I doubt she'd be able to fight them off.

I don't know... when Yaxley reappeared but Umbridge didn't.... I just assumed she had been kissed.

[Chris]

Let's see...stunned, lost her magical eye, her prized possession (the locket), and embarrased by a muggle-born at her own hearing. That's a bad day.
Plus, she had Harry Potter outwit her, and she was completly unaware that he was there until too late.
I'm just surprised that she was able to produce a patronus, especially with the locket on.

[moonarcher]

Originally Posted by jordmundt6

I'm glad others noticed this, but there is a distinct possiblity that, left totally unprotected by Yaxley--who only just managed to wriggle out of there ahead of the dementors, Ms. Umbridge was Kissed--and that would have been the PERFECT punishment, robbing her not only of a meaningful life, but robbing her of an afterlife as well. The only other person I wished to see punished who manifestly wasn't, was Rita Skeeter.

It maight be wishful thinking on my part, but that's how I chose to interpret Umbridge's final moments too. The sad thing is that in reality people who havebeen in those types of positions throughoout history often go unpunished by claiming they were only following orders... I much prefer to assume Umbridge had what little soul she had sucked out of her for enjoying the job so much!

I was a little annoyed about Rita Skeeta too. She acted like a true parasite, taking advantage and profiting from the fact no-one could stand up for Dumbledore without making themselves a target for DEs. Her "investigation" of Dumbledore did help Harry in some ways though, as it opened his eyes to a side of Dumbledore that most would not have considered possible.

[WickedSmile]

Hopefully Kingsley got rid of her when he became Minister...

[klepto]

Has it been considered yet that the reason for her being so horrible in DH is because she's wearing the locket? Similar to how it affected Ron and pushed him to the edge, resulting in his abandoning Harry and Hermoine.

Just a thought...

[firebolt57]

oh my gosh! I want to shoot this woman! forget wands! when I found out that she had the horcrux, I started screaming!....yeah....she deserved alot more than what she got!

[WickedSmile]

Originally Posted by klepto

Has it been considered yet that the reason for her being so horrible in DH is because she's wearing the locket? Similar to how it affected Ron and pushed him to the edge, resulting in his abandoning Harry and Hermoine.

Just a thought...

Well Umbridge was already terrible so maybe the locket didn't need to posses her? Umbridge seems to be the type of character who likes power and will join up with anybody who has it. Her soul isn't that different from Bellatrix or even Voldemort's, so maybe the locket felt right at home with her.