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Old August 23rd, 2010, 11:23 pm
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

Harry was unintentially created, I thought. Voldemort wanted to make him a horcrux, but he lost his body and everything before he could cast the spell. I think Nagini became a horcrux after the death of Frank Bryce. How soon after Frank was killed, I am not sure.


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Old August 23rd, 2010, 11:25 pm
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The first time I read it I missed Ron and Hermione's kiss...
AGH! I know so many people who missed this! It might be because I was begging for something to happen between then both or that I read really slow to take it all in that I didn't miss it.
But my mate who went with me to get the book (Midnight baby! ) missed it too. But I actually whooped when I read it! Like about time JKR! I don't think I could have missed that. I was so intent that it would happen.
I missed the implication of Bathilda's body. Only got the "Open at the Close" as in the end of his life. The second time. Probably because I was so overwhelmed by that chapter. Incredibly moving.


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Old August 24th, 2010, 12:09 am
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I just finished reading the series for the second time and realized that JKR preserved Harry's soul by not allowing him to directly kill Voldermort. It was Voldermorts own spell that killed him.

I swear I'm going to read this series every year and find new revelations.

She preserved all of the "kids" souls (yes, I know that by the end pretty much all of them were of age but still, they were kids) by not having any of them kill a person, at least not directly.

One thing I noticed when re-reading HBP a few days ago. When Snape and Narcissa are making the Unbreakable Vow, Snape hesitates slightly when they get to the part of him killing Dumbledore instead of Draco. I believe that Dumbledore had already gotten Snape's commitment to kill him by the time Narcissa visited him and even then, he had reservations about doing so, which only magnified itself as the story wore on as we found out in DH.


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Old August 30th, 2010, 4:48 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

Snape's seemingly ridiculous behavior upon finding Lupin and Sirius together in book 3 had nothing to do with some silly childhood grudge, but was because their bullying caused him to lose his temper and lose the love of his life, Lily. Well, Sirius's bullying and Lupin sitting by and watching. For some reason, it didn't really sink in for a while.


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Old August 30th, 2010, 4:53 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

I'm almost done re-reading DH and I made a small realization....the name 'Dumbledore' is most likely died out now. Aberforth [i'm sure] did not have children. And unless theres some uncles or something we arent aware of, the name is gone. Its a random realization but kind of sad to me haha.


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Old August 30th, 2010, 5:06 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

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Remind me though - was Nagini created when Frank was killed in GoF?

Correct me if I am wrong - I thought Harry would have been the last one created - albeit intentional - but for some reason, now I vaguely think I remember something about Nagini being created AFTER Voldemort resurrected himself??
According to JKR interview, Voldemort made Nagini a horcrux after Bertha Jorkins' murder.

Voldemort originally intended for the last horcrux (6) to be created after he killed baby Harry. Harry himself was never meant to carry a horcux, as Voldemort wanted him dead.


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Old August 30th, 2010, 7:02 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

One of things that I missed was that the Mirror of Erised was just the Mirror of Desire backwards, and I realised this on my third or fourth time reading the book.


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Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on wohsi.

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I completely missed that! *Jaw drops*
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Old August 30th, 2010, 9:24 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

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One of things that I missed was that the Mirror of Erised was just the Mirror of Desire backwards, and I realised this on my third or fourth time reading the book.
Haha I only realised it this year after having had the book probably since it's release. Then again I haven't read it in about 4 years so I guess I can be forgiven


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Old August 30th, 2010, 11:59 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

Just rereading CoS and I noticed in the scene where Harry finds the diary, not knowing yet that T. M. Riddle was in fact Voldemort, Ron is speculating "Maybe he got thirty O.W.L.s or saved the teacher from the giant squid. Maybe he murdered Myrtle, that would've done everyone a favour......

He was kind of right.....


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Old September 1st, 2010, 8:58 am
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People complain about how Deathly Hallows' climax, which they assume is Voldemort's defeat (before the epilogue) was sort of a drag. But, if you really analyze the book and the series once you have some distance, you realize that the climax of the book (and the series,) was Harry allowing Voldemort to take his life to restore Voldemort's mortality.

When it comes to it being the climax of the series: It was what Dumbledore's entire plan had been leading up to, and it was the act that ACTUALLY defeated Voldemort. After using all of the lessons that Dumbledore had taught him in his quest, Harry gave his own life to save every single person on the entire planet.

When it comes to it being the climax of the book: Harry unites the Deathly Hallows by becoming the master of Death; he also at this moment parallels the Tale of Three Brothers, walking out to meet Death after evading Death reasonably for sometime (with help from his cloak,) ready to meet Death on his own terms.

Voldemort's death, once all of his own mistakes had lined up against him and once people were truly standing up to his tyranny, was inevitable. It was the conclusion, not the climax. The effect of the penultimate moment of the series.



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Old September 1st, 2010, 9:12 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

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One of things that I missed was that the Mirror of Erised was just the Mirror of Desire backwards, and I realised this on my third or fourth time reading the book.
Yep I missed this the first time too. Love how Dumbledore answers Harry's question about what he sees when looking into the mirror!


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Old September 1st, 2010, 10:44 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

I had to read HBP several times before I noticed that Hermione had confunded Cormac in the Quidditch tryouts. I always wondered what Harry meant when he told her: Are you planning to tell Ron that you interfered at Keeper tryouts?


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Old September 1st, 2010, 1:18 pm
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

You know Harry's dream in PS with Snape, Malfoy.

Do you think that could be referencing HBP chapter where Dumbledore gets killed.

Malfoy turned into the hook nosed teacher Snape, there was a flash of green light and Harry woke up sweating and shaking.


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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

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Just rereading CoS and I noticed in the scene where Harry finds the diary, not knowing yet that T. M. Riddle was in fact Voldemort, Ron is speculating "Maybe he got thirty O.W.L.s or saved the teacher from the giant squid. Maybe he murdered Myrtle, that would've done everyone a favour......

He was kind of right.....
Ron is actually right a lot when he jokes. It's a running gag. Watch for it next time.


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Old September 1st, 2010, 7:30 pm
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Ron is actually right a lot when he jokes. It's a running gag. Watch for it next time.
I never noticed that! I so will now!


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Old September 2nd, 2010, 4:01 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

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People complain about how Deathly Hallows' climax, which they assume is Voldemort's defeat (before the epilogue) was sort of a drag. But, if you really analyze the book and the series once you have some distance, you realize that the climax of the book (and the series,) was Harry allowing Voldemort to take his life to restore Voldemort's mortality.

When it comes to it being the climax of the series: It was what Dumbledore's entire plan had been leading up to, and it was the act that ACTUALLY defeated Voldemort. After using all of the lessons that Dumbledore had taught him in his quest, Harry gave his own life to save every single person on the entire planet.

When it comes to it being the climax of the book: Harry unites the Deathly Hallows by becoming the master of Death; he also at this moment parallels the Tale of Three Brothers, walking out to meet Death after evading Death reasonably for sometime (with help from his cloak,) ready to meet Death on his own terms.

Voldemort's death, once all of his own mistakes had lined up against him and once people were truly standing up to his tyranny, was inevitable. It was the conclusion, not the climax. The effect of the penultimate moment of the series.
Excellently put. I especially like when you said that it mirrors the tale of the three brothers, with Harry (like his ancestor Ignotus) meeting Death on his own terms. I'd never seen that before!


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Old September 3rd, 2010, 2:45 am
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Oooh neither had I!


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Old September 3rd, 2010, 3:55 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

I love this series. =) It's incredible how she foreshadows things, like, three books back, but you somehow remeber it. =) For example, Dumbledore accidentally finding the Room of Requirement? Brilliant! It's something funny enough to remember, but not important enough to think too much about. Plus, it just shows how awesome Hogwarts is. "It's like Hogwarts wants us to fight back." Love that quote!

Actually - question. Why did Dumbledore walk past that specific spot three times if he had to go to the bathroom? Was he going back, then decided against it?


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Old September 3rd, 2010, 7:19 am
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Re: Things That Took Several Readings To Catch v. 8.0

I just realized that Hagrid is the one who brings Harry to the Dursleys riding Sirius' bike and then 16 years later escorts Harry away from the Dursley's in the same flying bike.


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