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Old July 30th, 2007, 10:41 pm
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Ariana's Power

How powerful would Arianna have been had she not been killed? It's hinted she was highly magical in DH.


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Old July 31st, 2007, 1:59 am
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Re: Arianna's Power

... I think she would have been very powerful... .. In fact, She was very powerful.. she just never got the chance to develop, and control her power..


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Old July 31st, 2007, 2:08 am
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... I think she would have been very powerful... .. In fact, She was very powerful.. she just never got the chance to develop, and control her power..
I agree. She definitely had the potential to become as good (or maybe even better) than her eldest brother, but whatever those boys did to her must've been horrifying. Her story was so, so sad...


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Old July 31st, 2007, 3:47 pm
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Yeah, she must have been quite powerful. If she wasn't much of a threat somebody wouldn't have had to watch her all the time and she might not have accidently killed her mum.


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Old July 31st, 2007, 7:14 pm
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I think she could have been more powerful than voldemort and dumbledore by far. Voldemort could do some magic when he was little but nothing like arianna.


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Old July 31st, 2007, 9:46 pm
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I don't think that's the case. If you recall what Hagrid said to Harry when he first informed him about being a wizard, he asked if he ever did magical things when he was scared or afraid. By this idea we can imagine that since Arianna represented an instance of a more older and developed witch/wizard without the ability to control their magical powers; she's basically like any other student who did magic accidentally much like Harry.

The problem was while Harry had his wits and sanity about him, Arianna was emotionally scarred and traumatized which resulted her powers to manifest uncontrollably. It doesn't necessarily mean she's more powerful but I imagine when she had her fits or rage moments those emotions just augmented her powers greatly compared to someone who was in more control.

Just imagine summoning fires because you wanted to burn everything around you because you really think that the world is trying to hurt you. The state of mind that Arianna might have been in; could have resulted in a more potent fire summoning spells compared to other wizards because like Bellatrix mentioned "You really have to mean it in order for the spell to work"


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Old August 1st, 2007, 3:29 am
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I think she could have been more powerful than voldemort and dumbledore by far. Voldemort could do some magic when he was little but nothing like arianna.
Whoa that's stretching it a bit, I think. I thought that it was possible for Arianna to possess a pretty good amount of magical power, but most likely not more than Dumbledore or Voldemort. They were the two greatest sorcerer's ever possibly. Also, Voldemort had great magical abilities when he was young, just because we were not told about all of them does not mean he did not do great things.


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Old August 1st, 2007, 6:36 am
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The danger of Ariana was not her raw power but the fact that she had no control over it. Not a problem for a kid, but as she got over and didn't learn how to direct it, the sheer unpredictability made her dangerous.


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Old August 1st, 2007, 6:51 am
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she was so interesting to me and i felt so bad for her it still makes me sad thinking about it... i hate that part when she is killed


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Old August 1st, 2007, 6:52 am
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It was a shame. Too bad there wasn't a magical cure for her.


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Old August 1st, 2007, 6:55 am
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How powerful would Arianna have been had she not been killed? It's hinted she was highly magical in DH.
Nothing exceptional. She would have been forced to direct that power into spells and such, not to mention becoming dependent on a wand.


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Old August 1st, 2007, 7:03 am
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It was a shame. Too bad there wasn't a magical cure for her.


i agree i was more sad for her than other main characters..she just got to me it was heartbreaking


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Old August 1st, 2007, 7:08 am
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there might have been a cure if her parents weren't too proud to send her to st. mungo's, there might have been some psychological treatment to make her normal.


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Old August 1st, 2007, 7:15 am
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there might have been a cure if her parents weren't too proud to send her to st. mungo's, there might have been some psychological treatment to make her normal.
Exactly....i am so mad What did those muggles do to her exactly that part bothers me i feel for her..


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Old August 1st, 2007, 7:33 am
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What?!

Why would she be more powerful than Dumbledore or Voldemort?

Both could reasonably control their powers.

Her powers were just all over the place.



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Old August 1st, 2007, 7:38 am
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What?!

Why would she be more powerful than Dumbledore or Voldemort?

Both could reasonably control their powers.

Her powers were just all over the place.
Her powers were all over the place, but that was because she was too traumatized by whatever those boys did to her to go through training on how to direct her powers into useful magic. Since her outbursts seemed to be rather extraordinary, I think it could be said that if she had gone to school and learned to channel her powers that she could've rivaled her older brother in magical prowess. But now... we'll never know.



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Old August 14th, 2007, 8:39 pm
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there might have been a cure if her parents weren't too proud to send her to st. mungo's, there might have been some psychological treatment to make her normal.
It wasn't that her parents were too proud, it was that they didn't want people who didn't love her to treat her, possibly with indifference. Also, remember that psychiactric care at this time (at least in the Muggle world) was not exactly... warm and fuzzy (more like cold and buzzy, if you catch my drift).

As for her power... who knows? (presumably JKR knows, but she hasn't told us). Aberforth, while perhaps not the genius his brother was, still seems to be a fairly capable wizard. The striength of her outbursts seems less because she is particularly powerful and more because she let it build up inside her before being released. That makes me wonder how magic works in "normal" people. Does it take some phisical toll? If you do some huge magic beyond your capabilities can it cause you harm?


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Re: Ariana's Power

Ariana seemed extremely powerful. Her family never seemed to really control her, but try to sort of calm her down and that kind of thing. I'm sure it was mostly out of love, but everyone's gotta get annoyed after a while, like Dumbledore did. Even he never did anything to try to annoy her or control her. If she had learned to control her power and develop i, I'm sure she would've been extremely powerful and a great witch.


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Ariana seemed extremely powerful. Her family never seemed to really control her, but try to sort of calm her down and that kind of thing. I'm sure it was mostly out of love, but everyone's gotta get annoyed after a while, like Dumbledore did. Even he never did anything to try to annoy her or control her. If she had learned to control her power and develop i, I'm sure she would've been extremely powerful and a great witch.
I think Ariana's sickness cannot be controlled. The more one controls her, the more angry she'd get. And the more mad she gets, the more of her power would be unleashed, and it'd be like what happened to Dumbledore's mom. Oh, and besides, I think that Albus doesn't deserve at all to get upset. It wasn't him who cared for her. It wasn't him who could calm her down in her rages, wasn't him who showered her with so much love. It was Aberforth, and if HE didn't get upset, day after day taking care of his sister, why should Albus? Oh yeah, good post btw !


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Re: Ariana's Power

thanks, and i meant like countering her magic. I don't really think her sickness could be controlled either, and they didn't want to risk memory modification either. for example, normal magic spells have counterspells and even if there weren't, there's always a shield charm. Her family never seemed to control her in the way like using stupefy or something.


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