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Old June 23rd, 2003, 12:52 pm
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The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black

There is so much to say about the Black family heritage, and the significance of Sirius coming from such a family, not to mention that he was related to the Malfoys, Tonks and Molly. What do people think?


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 1:08 pm
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I couldn't believe Sirius's family was so... evil! No wonder people were convinced he was a Death Eater!

But I wasn't too suprised. I figured that to keep it all in pure-blood familys, pure-bloods would have to *shudder* marry cousins.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 1:14 pm
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Dumbleedore is right. I can't believe I didn't realise they'd all be related.
But Bellatrix "heavy lidded" Lestrange as Sirius' couisin? That was a shocker.

I like that the Weasleys are related to the Malfoys and Blacks. That relationship is just going to get worse.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 1:28 pm
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I'd love to be at a pure-blood wizard christmas table... can you imagine trying to organise the seating? *evil laugh* Or what about a wedding, trying to figure out what side they should be on...

Ok, i'll stop now...

I just want to find out more about Sirius's brother (name escapes me, books too long).


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 2:29 pm
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Did we get sirius's mother/fathers or grandfathers name?

Did Regulus die whilst Sirius was at Hogwarts, did he even attend the school? How did a brothers death affect him....especially as he was a deatheater? Is this foreshadowing Percy/Ron?


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:01 pm
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i think probably most of the Black family members (except Sirius)meddled in dark magic and were in the Slytherin house when they were studying in Hogwarts because in the Black's house at Grimmauld Place ,their house was decorated with ornaments in the shape of serpents.plus,Sirius's brother became a death eater and his mother really loathed the mudbloods.
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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:03 pm
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Silly question maybe...

Were the Potters purebloods? Before Harry I mean? If so, are they related to the Weasleys and the Blacks?


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:25 pm
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The Black Family Tree

Was anyone else surprised by the detail in Black family tree??

Narsisa being Siruis' cousin? and the Lestrange woman??

I am going to have to reread that area of the book to recall even more details.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:27 pm
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Sirius is also related to the Weasley's. Second cousin to Molly I think he said. So technically... Ron and Draco are related! Weird...


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:32 pm
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Guess this is the right topic for my question/thought..

Sirius did say that the purebloods are all a kind of related to eachother..
makes me wonder where to place Snape....

any thougths???


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:33 pm
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I guess everyone who thought Sirius and Snape were related are right (in a sense)...


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:35 pm
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I was really shocked too! I actually gasped when I found out he was related to Narcissa. And it's strange to think that Draco and ron are related, no matter how distantly it may be. I was also pretty shocked to find he was related to Bellatrix Lestrange. He's realted to so many horrible people... Good thing that he didn't turn out that way, even if he was outcast for not being like them.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:37 pm
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The more we read these books, the more they sound like good old Elizabethan England, with aristocrats and the masses. Poor Sirius! I am still completely flabbergasted at the amount of information we got on him only to find that it's now virtually useless, if you get my drift.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:38 pm
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I assume Snape is a pureblood, although I dont particularly remember that being clearly stated.

These aren't blood relations, the majority, as Narcissa married into the Malfoys, Sirius isn't related to Lucius, and therefore Draco, by blood.

I thought, for a family, they were a rather dark one. Sirius was one of the few good ones, and Bellatrix can have no feelings (Bellatrix Lestrange) of loyalty to her family, only Voldemort, as she gave a scream of triumph when she killed Sirius, for which I hate her.

This I just cant understand, no matter how much you hate a family member you have to love them deep down, and even if you dislike them you should be a little bit remorseful for their death - but she seems heartless, apart from to Voldemort. This makes me wonder what drives them to Voldemort, what could be missing, or what religion/beliefs they hold for this betrayal.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:39 pm
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I think the relationship is between Black, Narcissa, Belliatrix and an Tonks is interesting. It makes me wonder though if Black is indeed related to the Potters. It also made the death of Sirius more poignant.

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Old June 23rd, 2003, 4:40 pm
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i meant to say earlier, and forgot, that i thought it was vaguely interesting that their family motto was in french, 'toujour pur' meaning always/forever pure. she might have done it, of course, for the 'mystery'...or alternatively, pointing out they are an old family. there's probably nothign behind it, i just found it interesting she broke away from the latin-based theme


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 5:31 pm
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i was surprised at sirius' family heritage and by how intertwined the pureblood families are/were

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Old June 23rd, 2003, 5:59 pm
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I wasn't surprised at all by Sirius' family. I had never even thought of it before, but as soon as I read it, it seemed obvious. I wonder how he managed to ignore all the pureblood **** he was raised with?

As for the Potters being purebloods, it could be like what Sirius said about the Weasleys.


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I actually never gave much thought to his family before, but I was really surprised by it. And when Bellatrix was delighted with herself for killing Sirius, I wanted to get into the book and deck her! I mean, she just killed her own cousin! I'm not saying I thought Death Eaters would care about something like that, but all the same I was infuriated.


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Old June 23rd, 2003, 6:16 pm
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I don't think the fact that Sirius came from a dark family really surprised me all that much, because I had always just had a feeling that he came from a dark family. But being related to Bellatrix Lestrange? That was a complete shocker. I'd have thought that a dark heretege like that would have been mentioned by someone when he escaped Azkaban, you know, something like "That Sirius Black, no surprise he turned evil, look at his family!" Or Malfoy would have at least shown some pride at being related to someone that suposedly murdered thirteen people with one curse. That is if he knows that they're related... I wonder if Draco even has a clue? What do you think?


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