Mark Evans!

[IchLiebeSirus]

In OOTP Fudge or that evil Umbridge says that Harry is the only wizard is little whinging no Mark Evans would be reported to so i dont think so but you never no

[aggiemuggle]

Maybe they mean wizards in school or of age. If Mark was muggleborn, then he might not be on the ministry's lists yet. After all, we still don't know how kids are picked to go to Hogwarts. Also, the ministry didn't have Arabella Figg. She's not a witch, but she knew about magic, so you'd think that she would be recorded.

Or, what if Mark doesn't live in Little Whinging? He could just be visiting someone.

[familiar]

Originally Posted by IchLiebeSirus

In OOTP Fudge or that evil Umbridge says that Harry is the only wizard is little whinging no Mark Evans would be reported to so i dont think so but you never no

The forum rules do have requirements for grammer and spelling. Perhaps you could rephrase this - it doesn't make sense. Also, Mark Evans is already being discussed - do a search next time.

[RedCape]

Originally Posted by IchLiebeSirus

In OOTP Fudge or that evil Umbridge says that Harry is the only wizard is little whinging no Mark Evans would be reported to so i dont think so but you never no

To answer your question, it is believed that Mark lives in the next neighborhood over from Little Whinging, so wasn't even a factor in what the MoM said.

There is an extensive Mark Evans thread here.

[turbotriple_power]

Well anyways the ministry wouldn't have a record of any Mark Evans beig a wizard because he is only ten years old!!!
And to go to Hogwarts you have to be eleven...

[RedCape]

Originally Posted by Masterfroggy

I struggle to remember just how old Harry was when he started at Hogwarts??

Here's a tip to help you always remember Harry's age in each book.

Book 1, Harry is 11
Book 2, Harry is 12
Book 3, Harry is 13
Book 4, Harry is 14
Book 5, Harry is 15

Hope that helps!

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Thanks, guys for the JKR interview with the Evans name mentioned. I hadn't seen it and found it fun to read.

[sindatur]

I had the same question about Lily's last name being Evans. I knew it was Evans prior to reading book 5, and couldn't figure out why there were so many posts saying "Now that Harry knows Lily's last name was Evans..." But we didn't learn it from the books, so Harry didn't know before book 5. It was in an interview that JKR shared the info with us. (possibly an interview right after GoF was released?)

Regardless of being related or not, or Wizard or not, I think JKR wanted us to notice the connection. So, she's either Laughing herself into hysterics because we took the bait, or Mark Evans will reappear in Book 6 and we'll get some revelation about him. I personally believe he will end up at Hogwarts and/or be related in some way (maybe through marriage and/or adoption in Harry's mom's generation, but not by blood)

[Liselle]

thats true, apparantly the mom said that there was not squib in the area either and up pops Arabella Figg!

[Fairydust]

The ministry (actually fudge and his cronies) are full of idiots. Honestly, there's a connection between Mark and Lily or Petunia or Harry. There's got to be because it's too much of a coincidence to have soem kid pop up with the same surname as Lily. too soincidental. there's more to this. Mark will probably be a distant cousin or something. or maybe Lily's not dead? nah, that's wishful thinking.

[Cat]

Originally Posted by RedCape

To answer your question, it is believed that Mark lives in the next neighborhood over from Little Whinging, so wasn't even a factor in what the MoM said.

Little Whinging is not the neighbourhood, it is the whole town. It's probably bigger than just that block of streets.

Mark can't live that far away from Harry. Harry actually knew the boy's name.

Whether he's a wizard or not is another matter. Keep in mind that he might not actually be of any importance whatsoever. People are beginning to take it for granted that he's going to feature in some way.

[turbotriple_power]

Yeah that's true thow, we shouldn't keep our hopes up.
Because it could have been just a coincidence (even thow i don't really think so).

[rotsiepots]

Thanks, RedCape.

Please follow the link in RedCape's post and continue your discussion there.

Thanks, I'll close this now.

[aphelion]

Yes, I noticed that too Sindatur. I think thats the reason why Harry didn't seem to be questioning Mark's last name.

[Doggy]

I would really love Mark Evans to be a relative to Harry, but I see it as sort of impossible. In PS/SS Dumbledore says "I'm bringing Harry to live with his aunt and uncle. They're the only family he has left now.

The only way Dumbledore wouldn't know that Harry actually had other relatives, would be if Mark Evans' mom/dad was Petunia's and Lily's half brother/sister, who was born before any marriage and then given away. But if that was the case, they wouldn't share the same last name, since if it was the Lily's mom who was the mom, she had a different last name, and if it was the dad, it would probably be the real mom who gave her last name.

[aphelion]

I agree Doggy. There is just no way around what Dumbledore said.

[jasper]

I know this is probably in the thread already, but why would Dumbledore know everything about the whole Evans family. Sure, he could check school records and we'd think he would do a little research, but was he going to be able to track all long lost relatives?

Not that I think Mark is a relative- I've already said I think it was careless editing.

[aphelion]

No, I think Dumbledore would definitely have done some quite extensive research. Dumbledore doesn't seem to be the careless type; he usually predicts and takes into account the tiniest details judging from what he said to Harry at the end of OoTP. What ever the truth is, I am convinced that Dumbledore knows of it.

[Puffskein]

I haven't read the whole thread, so excuse me if I didn't spot various important things, but I fear that JKR won't be able to make much of Mark Evans without contradicting things we already know.

The Dursleys are Harry's last remaining relatives, or at least the only ones capable of being "family" to him, and by implication, any child. So Mark can't live with relatives of Lily. If he's adopted, wouldn't he have taken his adoptive family's surname? There are a couple of loopholes: he was adopted by a completely different Evans family (it's a very common surname) or else kept his own name for some fictional reason. Plus, if he's a wizard, wouldn't the Ministry know and have mentioned it at the hearing? Counter-argument: Mark doesn't live in the immediate locality.

[whizbang121]

Originally Posted by familiar

The forum rules do have requirements for grammer and spelling. Perhaps you could rephrase this - it doesn't make sense. Also, Mark Evans is already being discussed - do a search next time.

A bit harsh, no? Especially as there's no "e" in grammar? We need to help and guide first years, not be rude to them. Also, important to note that not all members have English as their first language.

Puffskein,

How about if Lily's mom was married before to a wizard and he was killed when Lily was very small. Perhaps before she was born. Then her mom married Mr Evans. They had Petunia and who ever else we don't know about. Lily was raised as a muggle by muggles and isn't actually a blood relative of the Evanses. In this scenario, maybe even Lily didn't know she wasn't an Evans.

Also, maybe Privet Dr. is on the edge of town, right near the next town?

[Raven]

I think we are moving away from the main question: Is Mark Evans related to Harry. Do we think that he will show up in future books? Is he a wizard?

My answer to all of the above is: Yes!!!

And I can't wait.