Mark Evans!

[whizbang121]

I don't understand what the name "Mark" matches. And why do you think Snape would leave his son, (if he has one, which I doubt) anywhere near the Dursleys? Especially Dudley?! And if Dudley beat up Snape's son, wouldn't Snape have set the Dementors on him?

If Snape had a family, which I don't doubt, Voldemort killed them all long ago. That's part of what makes Snape, Snape.

[Auri DeMeer]

Originally posted by whizbang121 (original post)
I don't understand what the name "Mark" matches.

I think SnapeHouseElf is referring to the fact that Snape wears the "dark mark" in his arm.

As I understand it, the Dark Mark is the worst thing that Snape may have done and what he most regrets having done. So, to wipe this dark meaning off his life, he names his son Mark as well:

That is, the son may be the best thing for Snape in his life (like every son for every father), so the son Mark wipes off the dark meaning of the other "mark" in his life.

And why do you think Snape would leave his son, (if he has one, which I doubt) anywhere near the Dursleys? Especially Dudley?! And if Dudley beat up Snape's son, wouldn't Snape have set the Dementors on him?

Good points whizbang. Snape wouldn't want his son (or nephew or whatever) any close to Dudley for anything in the world, because he knows what it's like, to be bullied by stronger boys.

[Amadeus]

there must be some sort of connection but then again, isn't Petunia the only living relative of Harry as Dumbledore has said?

[Max]

Originally posted by lleugenell (original post)
there must be some sort of connection but then again, isn't Petunia the only living relative of Harry as Dumbledore has said?

Petunia may be Harry's closest relative that's still alive, being his mother's sister. Even though Mark may be related to Harry, they may be just cousins, or even second cousins. Perhaps the protection that Harry acquires from staying with Petunia may be weaker if he stayed with any other relative that isn't as close to him.

[Ellen]

If something happens to Petunia or if Privet Drive is no longer Harry's home, what happens if someone else steps into the spell to take her place? Harry at age 11 was capable of jumping inbetween Voldemort and what he wanted without wasting too much time on the "This is crazy, it isn't going to work, and I'm going to die," aspect of it. What if another 11 year old did the same?

[superviln]

this is one of the most interesting threads I have come across so far bravo great reading I think there is no way JKR has put any coincidences into any of these wonderful books .

[d3m3nt0r]

I don't know if anyone said this because I didn't read all the pages, but in OOP mark Evans is mentioned again as being beat up by Dudley. When dud and Harry are talking. Chapter 1 page 13 American:
" 'So who've you been beating up tonight?' Harry asked his grin fading. 'Another ten-year-old? I know you did Mark vans two nights ago---'"

[whizbang121]

Originally posted by lleugenell (original post)
there must be some sort of connection but then again, isn't Petunia the only living relative of Harry as Dumbledore has said?

Just an idea. Lily's mom, a muggle, was married to a wizard who died, (or was killed) when Lily was still an infant. Her mom then married Mr. Evans, a muggle. He gives Lily his name to protect her from who knows what. For some reason, it is important that Lily is believed to be muggleborn.
The Evanses become the proud parents of Petunia. Notice Petunia and Lily don't look much alike. Perhaps there is also a son, or more likely, Mr Evans has brothers.
When Lily gets her letter from Hogwarts the Evanses are delighted. Being somewhat knowledgable of the magical world, they are able to be supportive of Lily and her education. .
But Petunia is terrified of the magical world and the Dark Lord who terrorizes it. She blames Lily for putting the family in danger, (we have no idea what became of the Evanses) and turns her back on all connections to Lily or magic.

If Mark Evans is related to Petunia, she would shun him and his family if she thought they were involved in the magical world or might somehow spill all the beans to Vernon. So the boys don't know they are related to Mark, or at least Dudley is. They may not even know their mothers' maiden names.
And when Harry is orphaned and Dumbledore's protection charm requires his mother's blood relative, Petunia is the only one who qualifies.

[aphelion]

I don't think Dumbledore would be fooled by Petunia, Whizbang. he would have more reliable methods of finding Harry's relatives.

[whizbang121]

Originally posted by aphelion (original post)
I don't think Dumbledore would be fooled by Petunia, Whizbang. he would have more reliable methods of finding Harry's relatives.

According to this theory, Petunia is Harry's only blood relative on his mother's side.

[tree guardian]

What House do you suppose Mark Evans would be sorted into?

Yeah, I'm all over the Mark Evans is related to Harry, thang. I've thought so ever since my second read which was a while ago, now I'm on my 4th...

Let's see...there is a theory that Snape is really an Evans somewhere and that Mark Evans's father could be Snape's little brother. Now, if that were true then would it be possible for Mark Evans to be sorted into Slytherin? I think the only way he'd be sorted into Slytherin is if something about his life was extremely awful, which I don't think is true, so I say Gryiffindor for the Evans boy.

;D Have a good one!

[whizbang121]

Well, it's possible Mark is a young wizard, but it's not possible for him to be related to Harry. Petunia (and thus Dudley) are Harry's only blood relatives on his mother's side.

[fred_and_george]

Originally posted by whizbang121 (original post)
Still, I don't see how Mark can be a wizard going to Hogwarts if the Evans are muggles.

Right. And did you know that Hermione doesn't actually go to Hogwarts either, since her parents are both muggles . . .

[whizbang121]

Well, my track record is not good, and we should seek the counsel of the wise, being, of course, Katze.

But now I think we are reading all together too much into Mark Evans. I think the name is dropped less to introduce a new wizard and more to prove that Petunia is a muggle, not a squib. It's just currently my favorite future wrong theory.

So, if Mark goes to Hogwarts, it's as a muggleborn?

[S'up Figgy?]

Wouldn't it be interesting if Mark was sorted into Slytherin!?

[Hpmons]

Please. Stop the anagrams. Stop the "---- is ---- great grandfathers nieces step brothers son"

But, I do believe Mark Evans is related to Harry. Well here are the fors and againsts.

FOR - JKR cant have put it in their by coincidence could she? There have never been surnames that are the same, when they havent been related.

AGAINST - JKR cant have put it in their by coincidence could she? Shes probably trying to mislead us. Evans is a common name after all.
Petunia is Harrys only living relative on his mums side.
That just makes it too compicated...

[tree guardian]

It's like a Soap Opera. Really.

H: I thought you said the Dursley's were my only living relatives?

DD: Well they were the only ones who'd give into having anything to do with you.

H: Oh. So Mark's my cousin?

DD: Yep. You see, Snape Lilly's half brother and Mark's father is Snapes younger brother making Mark a cousin of yours, of somekind. It's quite simple and clear, you see...

H: Er...hmm. Do I have any grandparents?

DD: Don't ask me that question. You know the saying, ask me no questions I'll tell you no lies.

H: I'm related to Snape?

DD: Don't worry, he doesn't claim you either.

[animagus1369]

Nothing wrong with a little soap opera now and again, but it *does* sound a bit like a really inventive fanfic.

Harry and Snape, related. Hmmm. I suppose it's a good thing for Harry he's from the non-sinister-looking, hair-washing branch of the family. lol

Seriously, Snape and Harry are two of my favorite characters, but I really don't want to see them end up being related. While it's a nice thought, it gives me nightmares about the plotline of the series.

[superviln]

Petunia is the last blood relative.
But does last mean only is this another play on words?

[S'up Figgy?]

I think you have really hit on something here.

We saw how Snape hated his father and what a horrible childhood he had. If his father left he and his mother and remarried a woman who was a Muggle - Lily could conceivably be Snape's half sister.

Like Voldemort - ashamed of being related to his father - Perseus Evans changed his name to Severus Snape. Lily and Snape really could be in the same year - Snape could even be older. But if Snape and Lily's father was a horrible person - he would make no beans about treating his daughters unequally... he would lord Lily over Petunia and cause jealousy and strife. Especially if he was as cruel to Lily and Petunia as he was to Severus as a child.

Snape looking for a father figure may have latched on to Tom Riddle who was foremost in the Dark Arts while he was on the rise - changed his name anagram style and then hated Lily because he knew her for what and who she was so when she offered to help him as we saw in the pensieve - he would call her a mud-blood and tell her he didn't need her help.

I really think Snape is Harry's Uncle and that he would be safe with Snape in the summers but then that would blow Snape's cover.

Mark doesn't have to be Snape's son. Mark could be related to the Evans' (Snapes Father via Snape's Father's Brother - an Uncle and Harry's Great Uncle).

Especially since we know Snape is Slytherin and Harry was almost sorted into Slytherin. If Lily and Snape were half brother and sister then there would be a legitimate claim to the Slytherin house in Lily's blood.

Anyway... I think Mark will make an appearance and be the one that Harry latches on to like a brother...

in his memories. If Snape's father left his mother