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Old October 23rd, 2007, 10:42 am
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Do you think that Narcissa and Andromeda could reconcile now that Voldemort and Bellatrix are gone and pureblood supremacy is out of the question? Andromeda has lost all her family and Narcissa came very close to losing hers. They have that in common. I don't think Narcissa is still the racist she used to be because she saw what that almost did to her husband and son.


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Old October 23rd, 2007, 11:28 am
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It certainly won't be easy, Andromeda has lost her husband and daughter to Death Eaters. I can imagine if she wouldn't forgive her sister for being one of them. But maybe if Narcissa showed how wrong she was and how much she regrets everything that has happened. It will take time.


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Old October 23rd, 2007, 6:54 pm
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I really don't think they'll reconcile completely. One or both of them may make an attempt, but I think they have hurt each other too much over the years to fully make up.


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Old October 23rd, 2007, 7:13 pm
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Re: Narcissa and Andromeda

Nope. There are somethings time can't heal. And losing your husband and only child to your sister and her gang of racist murderers is just one of those things you can't forget or forgive.

Maybe they'd just be neutral to each other. Maybe they won't even talk. It would be extremely hard if not impossible to forgive your sister for something like that. I know she didn't kill them personally, but she was involved deeply with them all, as were her brother in law and nephew.


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Old October 23rd, 2007, 7:26 pm
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Re: Narcissa and Andromeda

It'd be difficult and I know I couldn't.
But Andromeda doesn't have a whole lot of family left so I guess, maybe, eventually ... Yes. After a lot of fights and arguments, they could probably make enough peace to have dinner at each other's once in a while.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 10:39 pm
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Hmm..never really thought about Narcissa and Andromeda. I think it would take a lot of time and a lot of conversations, but, yes, I think it would be possible for them to reconcile.


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Old October 23rd, 2007, 10:58 pm
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I think Lucius would have to die first before there could be any real reconciliation. And Lucius did get messed up pretty bad by Voldemort, so it might not be that long...


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Old October 23rd, 2007, 11:10 pm
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Re: Narcissa and Andromeda

I highly doubt it. Narcissa may be a bit more forgiving, i think she has at least realized in some form that she was wrong. However, Andromeda, who has lost her daughter, son in law, and husband will never be the same again. Not to mention she had also lost her favorite cousin, and if word ever got out about RAB, him too. Andromeda had also been shunned by narcissa before, not to mention the rest of her family, so theres just way too much to forgive.


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I don't think those two are going to recouncil. Narcissa doesn't sound like she'd forgive to easily. She just simply lived around the Pureblood Supremacy to long and still wouldn't like Andromeda for marrying a muggleborn and having a daughter who married a part werewolf.
Also, Andromeda lost alot to the people Narcissa hung out with.


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Old October 24th, 2007, 1:53 am
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Re: Narcissa and Andromeda

I dont think they will ever reconcile.
I also dont think pureblood supremacy is entirely out of the question.
You can take away the fear of Voldemort, but the Malfoys still wouldnt be the nicest people. I think they would keep to themselves a little more, but that doesnt mean theyre going to start having Sunday dinners with the Weasleys or anything.


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Re: Narcissa and Andromeda

Well, I'd like to think it wouldn't be impossible, considering that Narcissa lied to Voldemort about Harry being dead. I doubt that Narcissa and Andromeda would ever see eye to eye completely, but perhaps they could at least come to an understanding or a truce now that Voldemort is gone and the wizarding world is starting to embrace tolerance toward others' differences.


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Re: Narcissa and Andromeda

You know, the more I think about it the more I agree.
I think that Narcissa may reach out to Andromeda int he future. I dont think they will ever be best friends, but it may happen.


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Old October 24th, 2007, 9:09 am
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Re: Narcissa and Andromeda

I think that, even Narcissa doesn't try to kill her sister any more (she has no Voldemort pressing her for that, and I don't think she's too eager to fulfill his orders once he's dead) and Andromeda doesn't look the vindictive type, they won't be friends again any more.

Andromeda's lost too much in the war, and Narcissa is probably too proud to ask for her forgiveness. Besides, Andromeda will be bringing up little Teddy, a werewolf's son, and, I don't think repentance can remove all prejudices from Narcissa's head. Even though she wanted to reconcile with her sister, she'd never accept the boy. And if she has to choose between a sister that shunned her and the only child of her dead daughter, Im sure Grandma Andromeda will choose Ted.

They'll probably ignore one each other, as though none of them had a sister (if you think of it, it's not so rare a thing; I know several pairs of siblings that ignore each other). The best their relationship can reach is the one Harry and Malfoy have in the epilogue: a curt nod when they meet at the street, and nothing else.


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Old October 24th, 2007, 1:42 pm
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Re: Narcissa and Andromeda

We must remember that Remus wasn't always a werewolf - he was born an ordinary wizard who may have been pureblood for all we know so perhaps Narcissa would take that into account and not be biggoted about the werewolf connection. After all it was one of Voldemort's followers (Fenrir) who bit Remus in the first place and made him a werewolf and there for the grace of god etc. She might realise it Fenrir could also have bitten Draco and therefor know that it's not Remus' fault he is a werewolf.

Perhaps Andromeda could also find it in her heart to forgive as blood is thicker than water so they say.

I like to think they kept in touch occaisionally and swapped grandchildren stories.


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Old October 24th, 2007, 6:40 pm
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I really don't think so. There's too much between them, in my opinion, for a reconciliation to occur. I could imagine Narcissa approaching Andromeda but getting nowhere. If I were Andromeda, I'd be furious at the attempt. They may be sisters, but their lives have taken them in such different directions that they would most likely not share common ground anymore.


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Old October 25th, 2007, 12:17 pm
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However maybe Andromeda (like Harry) also knows the power of love AND forgiveness and may forgive her sister. After all it doesn't pay to become bitter and hateful when everything horrible (ie Vodemort's war) has finished and reconciliation could be the way to go. I like to think Andromeda is a bit like Harry and will forgive and will let bygones be bygones. In the end bitterness and hate achieve nothing and if Narcissa makes the first move then I think Andromeda will accept it and move on hopefully to reconciling with her sister and her family.


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Old October 25th, 2007, 3:03 pm
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I'm with most people here. Unforgivable curses don't take the form of just spells. Actions have meaning. Andromeda, by marrying Ted Tonks renounced everything she was taught to believe as a child, very much like the person in this story.

The first action was Andromeda's. She allowed herself to be a person who could love Ted Tonks. Over the years, she lived a life that proved to her in every meaningful way what she was taught as a child was a lie. Sometimes, when you live such truths that alter your values radically, you can't go back. She transformed herself into someone who could no longer be the sister of Bellatrix and Narcissa. Or rather, she let love transform her.

Ted Tonks is in one sense is the most powerful magican in the series.

Killing someone's husband and child or being on the same side of those who do is the other unforgivable. While I think perhaps they will obey the rules of society and not assault each other on the street, they'll not reconcile.

I think the one ray of light would come over time or under simular conditions. For example, after Lucius is dead and Narcissa has had time to wonder how her sister became who she is, she might refuse to object to her grandson Scorpius marrying Rose, the daughter of her mortal enemies. Having seen the cost, she could at that point concievably say, "no more".

At that point perhaps Andromeda would pay her sister a visit. Narcissa's actions would have shown she had started to change.

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However maybe Andromeda (like Harry) also knows the power of love AND forgiveness and may forgive her sister. After all it doesn't pay to become bitter and hateful when everything horrible (ie Vodemort's war) has finished and reconciliation could be the way to go. I like to think Andromeda is a bit like Harry and will forgive and will let bygones be bygones. In the end bitterness and hate achieve nothing and if Narcissa makes the first move then I think Andromeda will accept it and move on hopefully to reconciling with her sister and her family.
There's a great difference between forgiving and forgetting, inkling7. I agree that Andromeda may forgive her sister; but if her forgiveness reached the point of forgetting all the evils Narcissa and her pals have done to her (turning her out the family, killing her husband, her only daughter and her son-in-law) and going on as though nothing had ever happened, she would not be just a good witch, but a saint.

That kind of wounds are very deep. You may forgive; and better if you do it, for that's the only way of getting some peace of mind. But the past can't be changed and nothing, not even Narcissa's most sincere repentance, can bring back Ted and Tonks. That's something that will always be there to separate both sisters.


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Old October 25th, 2007, 9:18 pm
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I don't think so. I think Andromeda would be very bitter towards anyone who supported Voldemort, seeing that her husband was killed by Death Eaters and her grandson is now parentles because of Voldemort. And I'm not certain that Narcissa would want to necessarily speak to Andromeda. Sure, she has seen the "error of her ways" but I'm not sure what other motives she would have for wanting to make contact with a woman who, according to her and her beliefs, betrayed the family


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Old October 25th, 2007, 9:55 pm
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I agree that at best their relationship would resemble Harry and Malfoy's: a curt nod, but a lack of otherwise meaningful exchange. By marrying Ted, Andromeda renounced her family's beliefs from that day forward, and even if Narcissa ever considered contacting her, Lucius would surely oppose. If, perhaps, he was out of the way, then some progress might be made... but it would definitely take a long time.


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