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Old May 7th, 2008, 8:32 pm
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Oh I'm sure it is being taught to Wizarding children, and also in History of Magic classes at Hogwarts.

Every Wizarding child knew about the Boy Who Lived without having ever seen him (since he was with his Muggle relatives) before he came to Hogwarts. So every Wizard/Witch parent would tell the story to their children. Then they'd learn it in history class, just like we learned about WW2, Roosevelt, Churchill, etc.
Exactly, well actually, I could only see this happening if Hogwarts got a new History of Magic teacher. Proffesor Binns seems only to dwell in the distant past, around the 1800 era and he couldn't even remember Harry's name, I doubt he even knew the Boy-Who-Lived tale.

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I agree that Harry himself wouldn't write a book or maybe even tell his children himself (one of them was surprised at people looking at their group) but other people would. That's how I see it.
I didn't see Al's question on why they were looking over at them out of confusion but as a theorotical question, sort of like "what are you looking at?" sort of thing. Yea. I think that Harry's past was told to the children, and it would be hard to hide it anyways; I mean, how are they going to explain why Harry has a lightning bolt scar or why their Uncle Fred is dead, why grandma and grandpa Potter aren't alive, ect, ect. It's better to hear it from their parents than from the rumours of some stranger.

But I agree that Harry would be to modest to write a book about his exploits or even tell the story in great detail.

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Sorry Leah, I only saw your post after I put mine up. You do have a point. But I think Ginny would be the one to tell the children the story of their father's exploits. Harry's too modest - look at how he balked at talking about what he had already done at the pre-DA meeting. He'd see it as boasting, he'd let Ginny, and Ron and Hermione do it, in my opinion.
It's hard to say who would tell them and how they would tell them, I mean; the war was hard on the trio and their friends and they would hardly want to talk about it, not even mentioning the fact that Harry would be too modest to tell it right and Ron, Ginny and Hermione wouldn't know the story as well as Harry did. I think that they were told, but probably not that well.


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Old May 8th, 2008, 2:01 am
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Re: Was the Story of Harry's Past Told To the Children?

From some reason I have this image in my mind of Hermione writing an autobiography and in it telling a lot of Harry's story, but through her eyes. I see her titling the book, "The Mudblood" because so often that's what she was to certain people, "Potter's Mudblood friend" and also because so much of her autobiography would be about growing up muggleborn in the midst of a war about blood purity and also because she'd see it as claiming the word back, the same way in Shell cottage she said, "Mudblood, and proud of it!"

Anyway, I hope they would sit down their kids and tell them most of the story or else they'd hear bits and pieces of it, probably half truths from kids at Hogwarts and that's not how they should find out. I'm also doubtful it would be taught in history of magic no matter who taught the class because recent history usually isn't taught in history courses.

I wonder though if they would tell anyone about the horcruxes? I'm sure the world would want to know why they broke into the MoM and Gringotts, but I bet Harry would be hesitant to speak of magic that dark.


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Old May 8th, 2008, 3:57 am
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I wonder though if they would tell anyone about the horcruxes? I'm sure the world would want to know why they broke into the MoM and Gringotts, but I bet Harry would be hesitant to speak of magic that dark.
I hope everyone did find out about the horcruxes. That way they can truly appreciate how hard it was to get rid of Voldemort for good, and how much Harry, Ron, Hermione, and Dumbledore actually did to finally finish him off.

In the scene when Harry and Voldemort duel for the last time Harry mentions to Voldemort that he has no more horcruxes, so I would have to think the people around them heard it.


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Old May 8th, 2008, 11:17 am
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I looked and found nothing like this, but if there is I'm sorry I must have overlooked.

I was wondering if the story of Harry's past was told to Harry and Ginny's children, Ron and Hermione's children, and all the wizarding children. Or would it be to grusome to tell in full detal. I wonder if Harry eventually wrote a book about what happened between him and Voldemort. Such as what happened in the third task, what happened in the ministry, what happened while Harry, Ron, and Hermione were out looking for horcruxes, what it was like when Harry died, and more. What do you all think about this?
I didn't really think about this too much until reading this topic title. I can see reasons why they would not want to tell the kids, such as scaring them or having them be afraid to go to school because they might think things will happen to them. However just like with Harry there is an appropriate age to know the truth. It is up to parents to decide when their kids are old enough to understand things like that.

I love the idea of Hermione writing a book about Harry's adventures. That seems like it would be the best way to tell the whole world the truth. I mean surely there are still people in the wizarding world who don't believe any of it and need some convincing.


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Old May 8th, 2008, 5:19 pm
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I didn't really think about this too much until reading this topic title. I can see reasons why they would not want to tell the kids, such as scaring them or having them be afraid to go to school because they might think things will happen to them. However just like with Harry there is an appropriate age to know the truth. It is up to parents to decide when their kids are old enough to understand things like that.

I love the idea of Hermione writing a book about Harry's adventures. That seems like it would be the best way to tell the whole world the truth. I mean surely there are still people in the wizarding world who don't believe any of it and need some convincing.
I doubt anyone doesn't believe post DH, not only did Fudge acknowledge Voldemort's return, but the entire world went to hell, the negative and noteable changes affected everyone.

Maybe out of the country though.


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I couldnt really see Harry writing the book himself. Im sure hed tell his children about his adventures, after theyd find out at Hogwarts. I think itd be better if one of Harrys sons wrote the book and interviewed the trio, so hed get all their point of views.
I agree. Harry truly is NOT the type to do this. I think that someone from the outside would come in to interview him and write a bio on him but I cannot honestly see Harry spilling his guts on paper. Just my opinion.

I think that they would tell their kids the details because honestly, I think it would make them respect, love, and honor their father (and mother!) that much more for knowing what they've been through. I'm sure as they are young they would not get into the gruesome details so to speak but would give them the gist. When they were old enough to know the whole truth, it would be told. It has to. History has to be spoken about or we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. I think Harry and Ginny's children would be particularly tolerant.


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I agree. Harry truly is NOT the type to do this. I think that someone from the outside would come in to interview him and write a bio on him but I cannot honestly see Harry spilling his guts on paper. Just my opinion.
Agreed 100%. Harry wouldn't care about the fame or anything. I can remember one instance in GoF when Harry tells Hermione that "he wishes it had never been him." Ron is wrong when he thinks Harry enjoys all the attention, because he hates it. Harry says he doesn't like being famous for having his parents murdered, or something along those lines.
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I think that they would tell their kids the details because honestly, I think it would make them respect, love, and honor their father (and mother!) that much more for knowing what they've been through. I'm sure as they are young they would not get into the gruesome details so to speak but would give them the gist. When they were old enough to know the whole truth, it would be told. It has to. History has to be spoken about or we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. I think Harry and Ginny's children would be particularly tolerant.
Not only all that, but it is a pretty good story which kids would love to hear. It would really become a classic, I bet, the story of the great Harry Potter who finally defeated the Dark Lord, if the Muggle world is any indication. Look how well it's sold here!


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Old May 8th, 2008, 6:42 pm
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From some reason I have this image in my mind of Hermione writing an autobiography and in it telling a lot of Harry's story, but through her eyes.
Oh! That's a great idea; I hope she writes it too. It would be accurate and it would be fitting that Hermione would write all that the three friends went through in their fight against Voldemort and also include information about the Order of the Phoenix and everything. That would be a lovely book to read.


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Old May 8th, 2008, 6:59 pm
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Actually Hermione did write it, under the pen name of JKRowling, and it took seven books to tell it all.

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I don't think he had told his children about the past as of the Epilogue. At 11 years old, the middle boy didn't know who he was named after yet. I suppose the other kids would know because Harry would have pictures of his family around and the kids would learn their grandparents names' and Harry's godfather - and of course who Teddy was would be explained, so they'd know of Remus. Too Luna probably came around so little Lily may have known about her namesake. But apart from that, it seems as if Harry and Ginny had decided not to tell their kids about the past at all. Albus even asked why everyone was looking at them - not understanding why his own father was famous. But I imagine they would be told soon - finding out stuff at school and Harry resigned to telling them the truth.


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Actually Hermione did write it, under the pen name of JKRowling, and it took seven books to tell it all.

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And I thought it was Rita Skeeter!

Seriously, though, I think Hermione would do a lovely job, and so would Luna IMO. Though that book would have everything from crumpled horned snorkacks to the deathly Hallows for the later generations.


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Albus even asked why everyone was looking at them - not understanding why his own father was famous. But I imagine they would be told soon - finding out stuff at school and Harry resigned to telling them the truth.
The part I think that made it most unbelievable that Albus didn't know why people were starring at them is that it is hard for for me to believe little James Sirius never spilled the beans. He had been at Hogwarts for at least a year and if he was anything like his namesake we would have figured out at least that his dad was famous. The way he runs his mouth "Teddy is snogging Victoire", it would be easy to believe that he would have told his brother the information he found out.


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I doubt anyone doesn't believe post DH, not only did Fudge acknowledge Voldemort's return, but the entire world went to hell, the negative and noteable changes affected everyone.

Maybe out of the country though.
True, but nobody but the trio knew all the details of what went on. Only they can tell their story how it happened exactly, not how the news presented it to the wizarding world as a whole. I think it would be a pretty genius idea actually. Not only would it sell immensely but it would be a great opportunity for Hermione, Ron, and Harry to be able to fully tell their adventures.


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probably, they told james that he's not supposed to tell his siblings about that for them to grow into a world where they can be known for their own great deeds whatever it is... not being known because their father or mother is famous...


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Old May 9th, 2008, 4:51 am
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The part I think that made it most unbelievable that Albus didn't know why people were starring at them.
I think people were staring at Al Potter because he looked exactly like Harry; messy black hair an green eyes, and he was probably as unassuming as his father. I suppose with all the tension about Slytherin, Al was even more disturbed by everyone staring at him.

And I agree Al would have known bit about why his father was famous from James, but I doubt James or Al would have known the whole story.

I loved the suggestion by LoLee about Hermione writing the book.


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I think they know the whole story. They just cannot grasp the magnitude of it. Otherwise, why would they laugh at Ron saying he is extremely famous. It would not be funny unless they knew he was nothing compared to their father. To them he is nothing but a father and they easily underestimate his fame because of it.


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Perhaps they know the story but never have seen themselves in the middle of so many wizards. You know, I'm sure they spend most of the time between the Potters' and the Weasleys' (with Grandma Molly), without mixing too much with the rest of the wizarding world: after what he had to bear at school, I doubt he wants his children to grow up surrounded by all that fuzz. And there's a great difference between hearing at home that your dad's famous and seeing it with your very eyes.


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It would be nice if Hermione wrote a book detailing all of what Harry went through for the sake of posterity, but Harry would never do it himself. He hated all the attention he got, both good and bad. But I agree. Someone needed to tell the WW all of what went on. Dumbledore might have done it if he had lived. Perhaps Hermione could threaten Rita Skeeter into doing it, with the profits going to one of Hermione's favorite charities.

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This was the second post in this thread. I thought that if Hermione wrote it, then even muggles could understand all of it. I would like Harry to give a copy to the Dursleys, now twenty years later, after it's all over and with it a picture of him and Ginny and the three kids. And maybe a copy to Aunt Marge, so she can see that he wasn't bad after all. Maybe it was time to make friends with them.

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This was the second post in this thread. I thought that if Hermione wrote it, then even muggles could understand all of it. I would like Harry to give a copy to the Dursleys, now twenty years later, after it's all over and with it a picture of him and Ginny and the three kids. And maybe a copy to Aunt Marge, so she can see that he wasn't bad after all. Maybe it was time to make friends with them.

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I agree. I can't see Aunt Marge becoming nicer to Harry though and neither Uncle Vernon. I can see Aunt Petunia and Dudley becoming nicer and having a small relationship with Harry though.


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Well, I suppose the fame thing wouldn't be an issue because thier mother was a famous quidditch player, Hermione a rights reformer, and thier dad an auror.

Do they know? probably not the whole story. Harry and Ginny probably just told them that they had fought against Voldemort in the war, but not that Harry was the one to defeat him or about the prohecy or anything like that.


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