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Old February 8th, 2009, 10:59 am
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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child? Your thoughts?

I wouldn't rule out a muggle-born situation with Dudley entirely. All that would require is a magic gene strong enough to counter-act Vernon's anti-magic genetics. Perhaps Dudley will beget another Voldemort-like anti-Muggle Dark Lord.


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I think it would be so great if he had a wizard child! I think he'd accept it. Maybe he'd be freaked out by his 5 year olds weird powers and find Harry to help him.


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Vernon wouldn't allow it. The only possible exception would be if he died of falling in a pothole first

EDIT: I just realized Vernon would NOT have allowed a magical marriage, so it couldn't happen...
You're forgetting Muggle-borns.
You're right -- my mistake

Just imagine Petunia and Vernon in shock!... hehe


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Old February 11th, 2009, 4:19 am
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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child? Your thoughts?

I think this is a very interesting idea. Dudley did show a surprising willingness to accept Harry despite his being a wizard in DH, so it's possible that if he had a wizard child, he'd accept his child's powers. From DH, I got the feeling that the only one who could truly never accept the idea of someone having powers is Vernon. Petunia is the way she is because she was jealous of those who had power, so she sought to deny the existence of powers. But for Dudley, I think there's a chance he'd be amenable to having a wizard/witch child. Whether or not that would actually happen is another question, though I know it isn't an impossibility (unless Rowling has said otherwise).


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After Duds and Harry seemed to come to terms at the end of the book, I really think that that will have transformed Dudley.
Personally, my first thought was Slytherin, but that is frankly ridiculous. First of all, the child would be by no means of any pure blood at all, and would therefore have no sign of that nasty Slytherin pride.

No, I can see no other house other than Hufflepuff. I think that Dudley's experiences will have changed him, and his child would learn humility and respect. I would definitely put him in Hufflepuff. He most likely won't have much in terms of brains. I think he would be not overly brave, as Dudley most certainly wasn't, and I think that he will be taught good morals by his father.


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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

Well, I don't think he would ever have a wizard child. But if he suddenly did, in all honesty, he would shocked. No doubt about it. But he would probably get used to the idea, as the child is his. Plus, he did accept Harry in Deathly Hallows right?


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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

Yes he did accept Harry, at least to a certain extent. The question is though did he accept Harry because he had accepted all wizards and witches, or because Harry had saved his life? If it was just because Harry saved his life then as far as I seed it he would be less likely to accept his child being a wizard. Note I don't say wouldn't accept his child, I think he would still love them as his child but it may take him a little while to accept that his child was magical.


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It would serve Vernoin right, if Dudley had a wizard child. And I thijk it would heal Petunia of her jealousy towards Harry and Lily, hopefully.

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Would he be a Gryfindor? Slytherin? Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw.
Gryffindor like Harry and Lily?

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How Would Harry React?
He would be shocked at first, but then I think he would be amused and maybe a bit resentful especially if the Dursleys turned around and supported Dudley's child for being magical.

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Shocked and then supportive.

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Shocked and then suppportive; I hope her jealousy would be cured.

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The same as Dudley.


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Gryffindor like Peter Pettigrew and McLaggen. Not all Gryffindors are great heroes or honorable people. People aren't sorted into good or evil houses after all.


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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

I think Dudley would worry greatly for his child's safety if they were to allow him/her to attend Hogwarts - remembering having to go into hiding because Harry was a major player in a wizarding war. He, and his parents, would wonder if a threat still lingered, even if Voldemort was gone; whether because they believe there could still be supporters at large, or because they still consider the wizarding world in general dangerous, even if Dudley has accepted Harry somewhat.


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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

Vernon hated Harry because he wasn't his child. I wonder what he would have done if Harry was Marge's son. I always thought Petunia was jealous of Lily because Lily was prettier, had more friends, and married a good-looking guy. It wasn't until DH that I even thought about Petunia wanted to go to Hogwarts. As for Dudley's child, he would be very proud. As for which House the child would be in? I go with Ravenclaw. Everyone else seems to go with Hufflepuff. I like the idea of Dudley having a smart kid, because I don't think he was.


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Old February 19th, 2009, 8:18 pm
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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

ok, if Dudley had a wizard or witch child, there are lots of possibilities, some of them fun, some less.

1- he accepts the child's powers:

- we saw a change in him in the last book. Dudley has accepted Harry. The consequence is huge: he accepts the fact that his parents were wrong, that he was wrong, that Harry saved his life, and that wizards are helpful. He is the first one to accept to go into hiding with wizards he hardly knows. It is not anymore about punching people and having muscles instead of brains.
- so he is proud of his child's ablities and it is a way for him to get back to Harry and make it up to him more fully about the past.
- Petunia let go of her jaleousy as it is clear to her now that she must have carried some of the magic Lily had, that it just let two generations pass, and that she can be a grandma living through her grand child the dream of her own childhood that had been marred by fraternal jaleousy. Now she wants all the neighbours to know about it. She gossips about "normal" people with a new sense of pride.
- Vernon is nonplussed and doesn't know how to react, or how to hide the fact from his sister Marge. Everything is upside down, and he flinches away each time his grandchild wants to jump on his knees, for fear of getting a pink moustache.
- when the child grows up and goes to Hogwarts, if it has inherited from its dad's youth, it will want to punch people in the back, and so be in Slytherin. If it has inherited from its dad's intelligence and physique, it will probably be in Hufflepuff. If it has inherited from its dad courage to face his worst fears while being almost kissed by a dementor, and realize Harry is a nice guy, and Petunia and Vernon got it wrong, and thanking Harry for saving his life, then it will be in Gryffindor. Otherwise, as a choice completely out of the blue, it would be funny to have a brainy child in Rawenclaw, a book-worm, just to make up for all these books Dudley never opened in his spare room...

2- he doesn't accept the child's powers.

- he is afraid of his own child and ignores him or doesn't treat him well. After all, this is how his parents behaved with Harry, and we have a tendency to copy the behaviors we know of.
- When the child grows up, it gets back to its dad with magic, like Voldy...brrrrr
- Petunia is jaleous again. First her sister, and know her grandchild! Why the H... not HER!
- Vernon makes plans to abandon the child, with his wife approval, and his Dudley scratching his empty head. He thinks of Marge. Then he thinks of his car, then he is too afraid that the "crowd the baby belongs to" might watch him, so he does nothing after all.
- The child still goes at Hogwarts because it wants to and can't stand family anyway. It is either in Slytherin, because it learned to get its ways sneakily or by threatening. Or it is in Hufflepuff because it inherited Vernon's brain. Or it is in Rawenclaw because adversity charpened its mind, or it is in Gryffindor and spends summers at Harry's house with its cousins, Harry being pleased enough to help his nephew or niece do what he did for 7 years: escape the Dursleys every summer.


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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

The way I read it Dudley and Harry became to be good friends at the end and thinking magic isn't all that bad. Harry did save him more then once the way I understand it But I know Dudley would love his kids like his mom loved him! But how would his wife take it???


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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

Dudley's Aunt Lily was a witch, so clearly the genes for it exist in that family. I think it's quite possible that Dudley could father such a child (the suggestion that Vernon's DNA would preclude that has to have been a joke). I was hoping in the epilog to see Dudley bringing his own magical child to Hogwarts.


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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

While Dudley's braincase is filled with creamcheese, as he has grown he has certainly become his own man, and not his father. JKR's statement about Vernon's genetics aside, were Dudley to have a wizard or witch for an offspring, I think he has learned a valuable lesson. He may not be totally welcoming of the notion, but would eventually warm to it, and it may well bring he and Harry closer together.

I think of my relationship with my own brother. There is 7 years between us, and, I, as the older, was so jealous of him growing up. I couldn't stand him. It was so bad that I actually boxed him up, taped it shut, and put stamps on it to mail him to Abu Daubi (I had seen Garfield try to do that to Odie). Today, not only have we come to a mutual respect, he is my hero. He exemplifies many of the things I wish to be, and am so proud of him that words don't do it justice. Perhaps over time, Harry and Dudley may have the same relationship.


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Vernon hated Harry because he wasn't his child. I wonder what he would have done if Harry was Marge's son. I always thought Petunia was jealous of Lily because Lily was prettier, had more friends, and married a good-looking guy. It wasn't until DH that I even thought about Petunia wanted to go to Hogwarts. As for Dudley's child, he would be very proud. As for which House the child would be in? I go with Ravenclaw. Everyone else seems to go with Hufflepuff. I like the idea of Dudley having a smart kid, because I don't think he was.
Just because you're in Hufflepuff doesn't mean you're not smart. But i think that Dudley wouled react shocked, then maybe deny it a little, then get used to the idea.
I think he'd be in Hufflepuff, though.


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It's true about how Dudley changed in the DH and how he accepted Harry, understanding that his parents were wrong about him. There is only a few months or so between Harry and Dudley so in a way Harry was like his brother to pick on and his parents beliefs gave him a good excuse to. But I don't think he ever hated Harry, not really anyway. But if he had a magical child then I think he'd be rather accepting of it but worried at the same time, spoiling it so it doesn't act up with magical results etc. Also a lot seem to think the child will be in Hufflepuff but that is the house of tolerance, fair play and loyalty. Dudley wasn't overly loyal, I mean he picked on a lot of people and put his own safety first mostly. He certainly isn't fair and he won't tolerate a lot (being spoiled and all) so unless the child's mother has those strong traits I doubt the destined house would be hufflepuff, unless it truly doesn't belong in any of the other three. Ravenclaw...depends on the mother. Gryffdinor, maybe...I mean look at how Neville turned out. Slytherin is highly possible...bully, spoilt, often selfish...it's very possible but Draco wasn't too evil right? So the fact that Dudley was a bully should be an important factor. But anyway that's just what I think, but I think he would have a magical child and used it as a way to connect with Harry and Harry would help him out, convince him the child won't give him a pink tail etc hehe


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The little one would have lot to questions. How come Dad seems to know what is going on but won't say? Why is grandpa mad? What are Mummy and Daddy whispering about? How come I can do XXX?

All those questions might stimulate their curiousity and intelligence, causing Dudely to have little Ravenclaw on his hands.

I could also see Dudely being proud.

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WOW Just the thought of this makes me have a sick feeling in my stomack.

I don't know that would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo weird.


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