If Big D got a Wizard Child...

[Lunatic]

Originally Posted by HeadLikeAHole

I think that ultimately, that wasn't so much bravery but gratitude towards Harry for saving his fat arse. Yes, it was a noble act, just not necessarily a brave one.
And "I don't think you're a waste of space" isn't exactly that thankful either. Maybe it would have been braver had he said "Thank you" straight up.

I think that was the best Dudley knew how to do. It's not like he's been taught manners or anything. That said, his evolution would probably lead one of two ways, provided it's positive. The first would be to bravely speak like he did more often and gradually and boldly build off that in very Gryffindor manner.
The second would be to do a some of this but also to question how he was raised, come to the self awareness that he's a spoiled brat and to change that. The questioning of self is very Ravenclaw. Dudely must "unlearn what he has learned" to quote a famous sage from a galaxy far far away.

Either way, it's hard work but slightly different approaches. He will likely marry a woman who is on the same wavelength as him as far as the approach he takes. Then Dudley is then likely to pass on the behavior and habit of thought to his kids, who will do it better and refine it since they've done it from an early age. Based on this, the kids are likely either to be a Gryffindor or a Ravenclaw.

All the Best,

Lunatic

[cardinalguy]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

I think that was the best Dudley knew how to do. It's not like he's been taught manners or anything. That said, his evolution would probably lead one of two ways, provided it's positive. The first would be to bravely speak like he did more often and gradually and boldly build off that in very Gryffindor manner.
The second would be to do a some of this but also to question how he was raised, come to the self awareness that he's a spoiled brat and to change that. The questioning of self is very Ravenclaw. Dudely must "unlearn what he has learned" to quote a famous sage from a galaxy far far away.

Either way, it's hard work but slightly different approaches. He will likely marry a woman who is on the same wavelength as him as far as the approach he takes. Then Dudley is then likely to pass on the behavior and habit of thought to his kids, who will do it better and refine it since they've done it from an early age. Based on this, the kids are likely either to be a Gryffindor or a Ravenclaw.

All the Best,

Lunatic

I think I lean more toward the second option. I seem to remember Jo saying Dudley's dementor vision was seeing himself as the spoiled bully he actually was. Combine that with his description in DH as "muscular" instead of "fat," as well as he and Harry shaking hands (which was, for me, the biggest shock of the whole book), and I have to wonder if the dementor attack was the start of Dudley's transition from spoiled brat into upstanding citizen.

[LionsDisciple]

You know, I think that a lot of people underestimate Dudley. I myself was shocked by his attitude towards Harry at the beginning of DH, but after re-reading it, I was even more shocked not just that it happened at all, but how increadibly earnest and heartfelt it was. Dudley was concerned about Harry, obviously wanting to make as sure as he could be that Herry was safe, and when he was thanking Harry for saving him and expressing that he felt that Harry was not a waste of space, and seeming to be ashamed of his and his parents actions over the years. It was clear to me that he greatly respects Harry, and finally sees him as a genuine family member. I would go so far as to say that Dudley's actions seemed congruent with some sort of light hero worship. Harry did save his life.

So in short, I almost think that Dudley would be not only content but thrilled to have a witch as a daughter (I don't know why, but I definately see it as being a lttle girl). I could actually see him having two children, one magical and one not, and having a total repeat of Lily and Petunia, with the non-magic one becoming terribly jealous of the magic one. And I could see Dudley being so proud of the magic girl that he gives her just a little bit of favoritism without meaning to.

I think that Petunia would be somewhat uncomfortable with it, but would slowly come to accept it and love the girl just like she would any grandchild of hers. I always felt that it wasn't so much that she hated Harry for himself, but because he was the son of her sister. She was taking out all her anger at Lily on Harry, but then that isn't much more then a guess on my part. I think that if she had to interact with any other magical child, she would be uncomfortable and try to avoif interaction with them, but she wouln't be so vindictive like she was with Harry.

Vernon is a harder one to predict. I think that he would treat any other magic child as a freak, but this would be the child of his perfect, beloved, can-do-no-wrong son Dudley. I think he might at first try to deny it, avoid any contact with them and act as though nothing is wrong, as he was secretly trying to find out what he wanted to do himself. I can see him becoming estranged from his son and falling into a terrible depression and eventually dying, and then I can also see him doing a total 180 on us and show up with a big smile and becoming the most doting grandfather in the history of the world, never wanting to leave the kid out of his sight because he just adores them so much. And I can just totally see Harry watching in total shock as the little girl hugs her grandfather whom she loves more then almost anyone in the world because he is so loving with her. And imagine if (ouside of her parents), her two favorite people in the world were her grandpapy and her heroic uncle Harry, and she was constantly trying to get them both to play together with her (partially because she knows instictively that they do not like each other and somehow thinks that she can fix that if she gets them to play nicely together). That would be so great to watch.

I honestly think that this child would end up in Gryffindor. If it was a girl I can imagine her being very kind and cheery and chipper and always helping anyone who looked like they needed help, and totally without any sense of fear or inhibition, sort of like Luna to a point but no where near as eccentric.

I honestly think that Dudley would have been sorted into Gryffindor as well, and here is my reason why. Dudely had always seemed like a coward, picking on Harry because he was such an easy target (basically because he could), and then becoming a sort of a whimpering baby once Harry gained his own power. However he also then basically told Harry that he was sorry for everything he had done and was ashamed of it, admitting that what he had done was wrong. And well he should have felt terrible, but this was still a shockingly brave thing for him to do, to swallow the pride that he had been carrying for 17 years and owning up to his mistakes. Remeber what Dumbledor said about Percy, that it is much harder to forgive someone for being right then for being wrong. This was an increadibly Gryffindor-ish thing to do.

[Lilahbelle]

Originally Posted by LionsDisciple

I honestly think that Dudley would have been sorted into Gryffindor as well, and here is my reason why. Dudely had always seemed like a coward, picking on Harry because he was such an easy target (basically because he could), and then becoming a sort of a whimpering baby once Harry gained his own power. However he also then basically told Harry that he was sorry for everything he had done and was ashamed of it, admitting that what he had done was wrong. And well he should have felt terrible, but this was still a shockingly brave thing for him to do, to swallow the pride that he had been carrying for 17 years and owning up to his mistakes. Remeber what Dumbledor said about Percy, that it is much harder to forgive someone for being right then for being wrong. This was an increadibly Gryffindor-ish thing to do.

I think Dudley is another example of DD's comments about sorting too soon. While we may have inherent traits that define us, they are always subject to change and growth, and are not always recognisable for what they are.

And, sorry, Dudely. Love it.

[LionsDisciple]

Originally Posted by Lilahbelle

I think Dudley is another example of DD's comments about sorting too soon. While we may have inherent traits that define us, they are always subject to change and growth, and are not always recognisable for what they are.

And, sorry, Dudely. Love it.

I don't know if it is neccisarily that. I think that people have these traits within them, even if they don't show them until somthing draws them out. Dudley could just have easily have taken that expirience and made somthing bad out of it, taking the cowards way out. This shows to me that he had those traits within him, even if they were buried down increadibly deep and almost totally hidden by his spoiled upbringing. I think that the Sorting Hat would have been able to find these tendecies even when Dudley was little, even when he never externally showed them.

Remember that Harry had no reason to think that he had a particularly great mind, or any courage, or a thirst to prove himself, because he never had an opportunity to show any of these traits, but the Sorting Hat still found them.

[cardinalguy]

Originally Posted by LionsDisciple

I don't know if it is neccisarily that. I think that people have these traits within them, even if they don't show them until somthing draws them out. Dudley could just have easily have taken that expirience and made somthing bad out of it, taking the cowards way out. This shows to me that he had those traits within him, even if they were buried down increadibly deep and almost totally hidden by his spoiled upbringing. I think that the Sorting Hat would have been able to find these tendecies even when Dudley was little, even when he never externally showed them.

Remember that Harry had no reason to think that he had a particularly great mind, or any courage, or a thirst to prove himself, because he never had an opportunity to show any of these traits, but the Sorting Hat still found them.

Even bigger case in point; look at Neville. When PS first came out, how many of us could foresee this timid boy who couldn't even stand up to an 11-year-old Draco Malfoy leading a student resistance movement and staring down Voldemort himself in DH?

[LionsDisciple]

Originally Posted by cardinalguy

Even bigger case in point; look at Neville. When PS first came out, how many of us could foresee this timid boy who couldn't even stand up to an 11-year-old Draco Malfoy leading a student resistance movement and staring down Voldemort himself in DH?

Exactly. Neville didn't seem like much of a Gryffindor at all in the beginning, but as the series progresses you see that he had a sleeping dragon just waiting within to be tickled into action. It took some strong situations to bring it out, but it was there, and not many people at all could have had the courage to do the great things that he did.

[ronweasleysgrl]

Would he be a Gryfindor? Slytherin? Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw. I would say Slytherin, but they only take purebloods so probably Gryffindor.

How Would Harry React? I think he would be suprised.
How Would Dudley React? I think he would be sort of happy.
How Would Petunia React? Shocked and a little horrified.
How Would Vernon React? Complety horrified!

hahaha that is an interesting thought....................

[Lupinwolf]

I would love to see that happen. I mean at the end of DH Dudley and Harry had some form of armistice (not that I say armistice and not truce, because they never stopped not-liking each other, but more like just stopped fighting), I could see Harry also becoming godfather to Dudley's child??

Now I think the kid would be in Slytherin because of Dudley's personality (going under the assumtion of the old adage of 'like father, like son') is much more of a steryotypical Slytherin, than Hufflepuff (sorry, guys).

[zelinskas]

Well, for one, I'm not sure I want Dudley mixing his genes into the collective human gene pool.

Harry'd probably think it was hilarious, but be glad he's got a magical little niece/nephew.

Dudley'd be happy with a magical kid, but also slightly frightened of the child.

Petunia and Vernon would be mortified that perfect Didykins could have one of those freaks.

[Moody13]

His parents would disown him.They want nothing to do with magic

[Mrscole]

I don't see Vernon alive to see Dudley's magic child but I think Petunia would love her grand child regradles, and although Dudley would be afraid it would be for the child's future instead because of his love for him/her, I think he would pseter Harry continiously for advise even though the child would be in Hufflepuff and kind of a Peter Petigrew type of personality.

[Voldemort_pwns]

That would be very interesting indeed, I don't know how that would work honestly.

[MasterChief]

I think Dudley came to terms with Harry at the beginning of DH. Though his aunt and uncle might not have, he certainly did. This opens the possibility of him marrying a witch. He probably would not have a muggle-born child if he married a muggle. I think that Vernon's DNA would decrease your chance of having a muggle-born by a lot.

If he did have a magical child, I think Petunia would come to terms with the magical side of her family and might reconcile with Harry. Vernon would probably be dead by then (a short temper and large waistline doesn't help your health).

I can see the mini-Dudley being extremely pampered and probably ending up in Slytherin and being pampered by Slughorn for being Harry's nephew. Though, Harry might not care if Dudley had a magical child, his children and Ron's children surely would have heard about some details about his childhood and mini-Dudley will probably be on the receiving end of a good amount of hexes and jinxes.

[CrimsonZephyr]

Nah, magic can't get past Uncle Vernon's genes. They're Muggles through and through.

[Lunatic]

Originally Posted by CrimsonZephyr

Nah, magic can't get past Uncle Vernon's genes. They're Muggles through and through.

Or perhaps the reason Vernon hates magic so much is a history messed up cousins or legends of great grandfather. Because of that, he's scared (insert brown stuff in his pants for the image).

All the Best,

Kerney

[aishah]

Dudley would probably (be delighted) and make his son learn the Patronus charm and protect him from the evil dementors as Harry did ;p

[Krums_Girl]

I think that it's very possible for Dudley to have a magical child if he married a Witch.
I don't think that his wife would tell him she was a Witch until it was absolutely necassary.

And, once Dudley got used to the idea, I don't think he would resent having a magical child. I don't think Petunia would mind, that much, either...

Vernon, on the other hand.... well, lets just hope (for the poor child's sake) that Vernon had a heart attack before the child was born....

[bellatrix93]

If Dudely had a wizard his reaction to it would depend a lot on what kind of wife he had. I think Dudely wasn't raised up to take decisions on different matters all by himself. His parents influenced his childhood a lot and I think this affected him later on in his adult life.
If his wife was a Dursleyish kind of person . The kind of people who didn't accept anything out side the normal world. Then I think he too, would've been upset to have a wizarding child attending the 'mad house'. He would suffer a lot, trying to hide this fact from other people and neighbours.
If his wife was someone who could believe in and like magic and mysterious stuff. Then I think he wouldn't suffer a lot. On the contrary, I think he might enjoy this fact. He'd have a chance to discover the good side of this world. For all he knew about wizards as a child, was having pig tails and lizard tongues. In this case he'll have to hide this fact from other muggles he knows, too. But at least he wouldn't be suffering internally.

But iirc, didn't JKR say that Dudely didn't have wizarding children?

[LeviathanMammal]

JKR said that Vernon's genes were able to kill any wizard genes. Could Vernon be part Dementor?