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Old August 30th, 2009, 6:15 pm
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I think that Big D was jealous of Harry and would love to have been a wizard himself. He was afraid of magic, but that was because he had no way of defending himself against it. He didn't like feeling powerless.

His mother really wanted to be a witch, a I think she would be delighted that an offspring (even grandchild) had the ability. She would think it came from her, and would be very boastful.


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Old August 30th, 2009, 7:57 pm
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I think that Big D was jealous of Harry and would love to have been a wizard himself. He was afraid of magic, but that was because he had no way of defending himself against it. He didn't like feeling powerless.

His mother really wanted to be a witch, a I think she would be delighted that an offspring (even grandchild) had the ability. She would think it came from her, and would be very boastful.
Yes I think Vernon and Petunia would a complete 180 if little Diddikins sired a witch or wizard. I think Dudley would be able to accept (after growing up a bit in DH). They went off with wizards for protection, so who knows they might have formed a connection with the world (stressful situation, dependency - they might have seen magic as a good thing!!)
JKR said Harry and his family visit big D in the future - so obviously he did come to accept magic.


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if dudley had a wizarding child, i thin that he would be, in a way, proud of it! even though pentunia and vernon, would like, hate that certain quality of it, dudley would probably be supportive, especially considering how in the end, he respected harry and all the things he had done. i htink that dudley probably was always jealous that harry was magical, and extra-ordinary. But then again, if they ever did hav a wizarding child, it would pretty much be a miracle, since rowling said it was virtually impossible for any child of dudleys to be a wizard. If dudley married a witch, maybe, but think about it: dudley grew up learning that wizard and witches were freaks, so even though he respects harry, and deep down probably wants to have been magical, im sure that he wouldn't exactly go looking for a magical bride.


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Old September 3rd, 2009, 6:24 pm
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If dudley married a witch, maybe, but think about it: dudley grew up learning that wizard and witches were freaks, so even though he respects harry, and deep down probably wants to have been magical, im sure that he wouldn't exactly go looking for a magical bride.
Dudley would not need to marry someone that was magical in order to have a magical child. Herminone did not have anyone in her family who had any magical powers and she developed them.

Dudley's aunt Lily had such powers and he could be the one to pass on the 'magical' gene if there is one. He could theoritically have a wizard son that could end up going to Hogwarths.

Everything is possible, and I like the idea of it.


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Petunia mentions that hers and Lily's parents were proud of lily for having the magical powers and for getting and invitation to Hogwarts. Petunia mentions being jealous and such as a child. Is it possible that Petunia's and Lily's parents may have been magical (one, the other, or both)? Or are they muggles like Hermione's parents? If they were muggles, I see them possibly being involved in the magical community at least as much as Hermione's parents were.

Isn't it also true that the reason that an individual "muggle born" witch or wizard develops magical powers is because there's a witch or wizard somewhere in their genealogical descendants? Thus, if magical powers happened to Lily, then they could very well happen to one or several of Dudley's offspring...

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I remember reading, don't remember where, that 'they' were requiring wizard to prove their geneology by showing that they had at least one wizard in their family and trying to keep muggle borns out.

I think that it is possible to have no lineage to a wizard and still develop the magical powers. I could be wrong on this though.


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I think that it is possible to have no lineage to a wizard and still develop the magical powers. I could be wrong on this though.
JKR said that the muggle born magic came from somewhere in their lineage. But could be far back. It doesn't necessarily go from generation to generation - but can skip several, therefore it would be very hard to find the source in most cases.


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JKR said that the muggle born magic came from somewhere in their lineage. But could be far back. It doesn't necessarily go from generation to generation - but can skip several, therefore it would be very hard to find the source in most cases.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

So it is still possible for Dudley to produce a magical child as he has the lineage from his mother.


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So it is still possible for Dudley to produce a magical child as he has the lineage from his mother.
Yes apart from the fact JKR said any wizarding gene would die upon contact with Vernons DNA. But to speculate I think it would be cool if he ended up with wizard nieces or nephews from his wife's side!

I definitely believe he is changed for the better and would not reject any child in the future, even if it had magical leanings.


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It would have made perfect sense after all the Dursleys did to avoid acknowleding the magical world for them to have to deal with their spoiled gastropod of a child to have a magical child of his own.


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I love this metaphor.

But I disagree. Some people will never have, and are indeed better off without, a wizarding child. No magic could get past the Dursleys' genes.


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So we think that Dudley couldn't have a magical child because of his father.

I think that Dudley would be better off with muggle children


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I think that Dudley would be better off with muggle children
Yes I think he had quite enough excitement as a child!


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Let's keep in mind that Dudley mellowed greatly as he matured.

He came to appreciate Harry, so he might have changed his opinions on the magical world too.


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Actually if Dudley was a wizard, what would his job be?

I think that he'd be an auror, I could him being quite good in that role.


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I think that he'd be an auror, I could him being quite good in that role.
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I think that he is fearless and determined, he would be able to stand up to what he believed in. As a child he was spoilt, but if he wanted something he didn't stop until he got it.

I believe that, if he had powers, that he would be good at DADA and transfiguration. I can't explain why I think that he'd be good at these, maybe because of his physical strengths (wrestling).


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I think that he is fearless and determined, he would be able to stand up to what he believed in. As a child he was spoilt, but if he wanted something he didn't stop until he got it.

I believe that, if he had powers, that he would be good at DADA and transfiguration. I can't explain why I think that he'd be good at these, maybe because of his physical strengths (wrestling).
I don't know, he seemed like a bit of a wimp to me, running from danger (every time he saw a wizard), panicking in situatuations etc...I think being a wizard or maturing as he did, would not change these fundamental parts of his personality.


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JKR said that the muggle born magic came from somewhere in their lineage. But could be far back. It doesn't necessarily go from generation to generation - but can skip several, therefore it would be very hard to find the source in most cases.
I think she said it came from squibs marrying muggles... So Dudley's grandchildren might end up at Hogwarts, who knows.. That'd be pretty cool.


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Re: If Big D had a Wizard Child...

Intesting concept. Can't say this idea has ever occurred to me before- which is odd since I am the queen of What-Ifs.

I like the idea though, if only for the fact it would force the denial-ridden Dursleys into the Wizarding world, then again are the Dursleys too cruel a fate to force upon the magical community? Haha.

I feel Petunia would quite easily accept (after all she did write a letter as a child to Dumbledore, begging her to let her go to Hogwarts and she was secretly obsessed enough with the world to remember years on things such as dementors and Azkaban) a magical child- it was only jealousy of Lily's gift that caused her to reject the world and Harry. Dudley might come around quite easily to it, especially since it would be his child, but his parenting might make the child into a Crabbe and Goyle type.

It's Vernon who I think would have a moustache-tearing reaction to it. Anything that isn't normal, mundane and regular just isn't right in his opinion. And if the child went to school with Harry's children at Hogwarts? It might just end Vernon Dursley!


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