The Deathly Hallows Movie Split

[storyteller]

I like option 3 too. That is what I was thinking now that I know the ending will not be after a death. If it isn't at Xeno's house right after the explosion It will probably be around that point and if they only use the voice it will be a cliff hanger to those who have not read the book who it is.
Another option we are missing is that they could switch the Snatchers/malfoy manor and Xeno's house.
That way Dobby dies and galvinizes them then they find out about the Hallows and figure out that where two off them are.
Then they can open with trying to get the wand.

Of course they may also take Dobby right out of the movie as they did in GoF but I don't think they will. If they are going to go through the trouble to make two films, they better leave everything pretty much the way it is in the book. I read an article that was complaining that the last book was split into two movies, trying to make more money. If they had not split the movie that would have narrowed their audience, since many 15 year olds would sit through a 3 hour movie but how many 9 year olds would, and then there would still be complaints that they did not get everything in the movie.

[koolphil]

also, if you look at the logic of the book, the movie cannot end before The Deathly Hallows chapter. It would be really weird having a movie called The Deathly Hallows without having a mention of it in the movie.

The Deathly Hallow chapter presents no cliffhanger except the ending, where the snatchers arrive.

So my logic guess is that the finish part 1 with either the apparition of the snatchers or the malfoy manor... that's the logic guess.

[decarus]

I really dislike the idea of splitting with Hermione screaming through the floor. I mean that is definitely a cliffhanger, but that is a rather harsh way to end the film.

We do also know that the film is split soon after the Snatcher Chase scene which i assume would still be before Malfoy Manor unless they are also chased by the snatchers after Xeno's scene. I still think that the Xeno scene is the easiest scene to move around since they are trying to find a place to split.

Originally Posted by storyteller

Of course they may also take Dobby right out of the movie as they did in GoF.

Well we know that Dobby is not cut from the film because we have seen pictures at shell cottage.

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[storyteller]

poor Dobby. So we know that Shell Cottage is in the movie. Where it is in the movie is another question.

[koolphil]

shell cottage must be in part 2. Don't forget that they're filming both parts in one shoot. So we might get pictures of scenes from the second half of the book being shoot before scenes from the first half.

The have confirmed Malfoy Manor, but that doesn't mean it's in the first part.

[katana]

Plus, I believe the movie guys said that Dobby was going to appear in the movie a bit more than he did in the book, to help re establish his character a bit.
I wonder where they'll use him in the movie then?

[decarus]

I also think i remember someone saying that Dobby would appear in the film more then in the book. I am not sure when he would appear. Possibly he could appear at the Burrow or maybe help the trio out in some way. It is really hard to guess at because we know so little about how things will be changed or if any scenes will be added or cut.

[katana]

I imagine, without the mirror of Harry's, setting Dobby up earlier in the films will setup how Dobby knows they are at Malfoy Manor. Unless they introduce the mirror in DH somehow.

[mrfutterman]

Originally Posted by koolphil

also, if you look at the logic of the book, the movie cannot end before The Deathly Hallows chapter. It would be really weird having a movie called The Deathly Hallows without having a mention of it in the movie.
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This problem has been created completely and entirely by the film-makers, who have taken a straightforward story told in one book and spread it out over two films.

Therefore - they must solve the problem.

They can explain what the DH are long before the trio reach Xeno's house. Indeed, explaining by info dump would be lazy and undramatic. They need to find a cinematic way of doing this: they are supposed to be making a film - well, two films - not providing illustrations for the book.

[decarus]

Originally Posted by katana

I imagine, without the mirror of Harry's, setting Dobby up earlier in the films will setup how Dobby knows they are at Malfoy Manor. Unless they introduce the mirror in DH somehow.

Well there was one shot at shell cottage where it seems like Harry is holding a mirror shard. The only think about it is the fact of why in the world would Harry be holding the mirror at shell cottage. I am still not one hundred percent convinced that this is the mirror shard, but most likely it is because what else would it be.

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[katana]

Originally Posted by decarus

Well there was one shot at shell cottage where it seems like Harry is holding a mirror shard. The only think about it is the fact of why in the world would Harry be holding the mirror at shell cottage. I am still not one hundred percent convinced that this is the mirror shard, but most likely it is because what else would it be.

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Wow! Never seen that pic! It definitely looks like a mirror shard. Or a crystal of some type, but that makes no sense I would actually be glad if they introduce the mirror in DH.

Perhaps Harry finds it at Grimmauld Place then or something. Or maybe they'll tie the mirror in with Dobby? Like Dobby gives it to him or something in the first of the film. I guess they could change that bit so that it doesn't have to be Sirius' mirror. Darnit! Now I really want to know

[FemmeCerebus]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

Harry Potter 7 to be Road Movie, Harry Potter 8 to be Opera. I'm quite pleased with that.

I don't know how you read this, but to me I think it says:

Movie 7A will not be anywhere near Hogwarts, so:
- 7 Potters (point 10)
- Wedding
- DE coming (point 30)
- London/12 Grimmauld
- Ministry of Magic
- On the run (point 60)
- Forest of Dean etc.
- Ron leaves
- Xmas in Godric's Hollow (point 90)
- Ron coming back / silver doe
- Xeno's House
- Capture (point 120)
- Malfoy Manor
- Death of Dobby

I can see shell cottage being lonely and beautiful. But it is a lot for one movie
*** If they are captured AT Xeno's house, through betrayal, it would be a surprise ending to 7A, without a change of substance, cliffhangeresque. ***

Movie 7B = back to familiar sets. Winding up of Movie/Book 1. I see this as operatic in the sense of elaborate set pieces.

- Capture <--- cliffhanger part (1-10)
- Malfoy Manor - Save Luna
- Death of Dobby (point 30)
- Attack on Griggotts
- Dragon ride to Hogwarts (point 60)
- Hogsmeade
- Voldemort and Dumbledore's tomb
- Room of Requirement & Neville
- Battle for Hogwarts
- Death of Fred
- Harry & Pensieve
- Walk of Potter
- Quasi death of Potter (point 90)
- Molly v Bella
- Duel with Voldie
- Epilogue @ platform 9 3/4(point 120)

Well, something to consider.

[Atreides]

Something to consider: The first movie might be renamed, not be called "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part I." Personally, I'm hoping it will be renamed, because I think that "Part I" would be awful. But, to the point, Yates might indeed rearrange events (which wouldn't be hard) to cut out mention of the Deathly Hallows in Part I, and keep that story purely in Part II. Just a thought.

[storyteller]

That is a good point. Since they do not mention the Hallows until the middle it would be very easy to call the first film something else because while Jo could not write a two part book, since the series was supposed to be about the seven years Harry was in school, the movie makers never promised seven books.
Did someone say they had confirmed Xeno's house? They could combine that with Malfoy Manor and have more DE show up and Dobby save the day instead of Hermione.
I thought from the first that part of the reason that they had to make the split is because they would need to catch people up on the parts of the book that they skipped in the ealier books.
They need to catch up on Dobby
What really happened at Godric's Hallow
the Maurader's

[GingerPeachy]

Regardless, they'll need a STRONG description of the Hallows at some point, and a good one of Horcruxes too, especially if, like people are saying, they skimp on the explanation of "Horcrux" in number 6. Some Hermione-style exposition could be utilized for that

[hbponjuly15]

Originally Posted by GingerPeachy

Regardless, they'll need a STRONG description of the Hallows at some point, and a good one of Horcruxes too, especially if, like people are saying, they skimp on the explanation of "Horcrux" in number 6. Some Hermione-style exposition could be utilized for that

theyre cutting out a horcrux in *** 6th one... and they do need a strong explination of the hallows..and they need harry's finding in there too..and i really hope that luna's house and room are awesome!!!!!

[thefirestorm]

A post up there got me thinking.

Part 1 could actually be called
"Harry Potter and the search of the horcruxes"
Just along those lines, of course something more creative.

Then they could introduce the Deathly Hallows in part 2,
Therefore being called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Just a thought (:

[hbponjuly15]

or maybe it should just be harry potter anf the deathly hallows 1 then 2.

[GingerPeachy]

Originally Posted by thefirestorm

A post up there got me thinking.

Part 1 could actually be called
"Harry Potter and the search of the horcruxes"
Just along those lines, of course something more creative.

Then they could introduce the Deathly Hallows in part 2,
Therefore being called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Just a thought (:

I really like this idea, although, at you said, they'll probably word it a little different! That way, audiences can get the explanations clearly!

[storyteller]

There is no way they can skip the explanation of a horocrux. They must be going off the trailers which are always edited down. When Harry gets Slughorn's memory they have to explain it. It just might be in a different place.
It could be where TR asks HS about it in the memory
it could be when HP about the memory
It could be where DD tells HP about the memory.
After reading reviews for the other movies it has become apparent that the movie reviewers do not want the movies to be exactly like the books. They want them to be changed for their visual apeal. So In the movie the exact particulars of the horocruxes is not that important.

Originally Posted by thefirestorm

A post up there got me thinking.

Part 1 could actually be called
"Harry Potter and the search of the horcruxes"
Just along those lines, of course something more creative.

Then they could introduce the Deathly Hallows in part 2,
Therefore being called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

Just a thought (:

I think if they do rename it they will go with one of the alternate names that Jo had when writing the books. I know one of them had something to do with the horocruxes.
Maybe Harry Potter and the Raiders of the Lost Horocrux'es thats an inside joke that probably no one else will get.