Castle

[decarus]

Good episode. This was a good case. I actually wasn't sure if the husband would be implicated or not in one of the murders. I thought not and then in the end he was. That is one thing i like about this show.

[jordmundt6]

This got twistier than their normal ep. It was really interesting to see the evolution of the case, but Castle busting his "mentor" was a classic ending (almost to the level of Beckett's prison conversation with the hitter in "Knockdown"). More like that please.

[Fawkesfan1]

Originally Posted by jordmundt6

This got twistier than their normal ep. It was really interesting to see the evolution of the case, but Castle busting his "mentor" was a classic ending (almost to the level of Beckett's prison conversation with the hitter in "Knockdown"). More like that please.

Yea it defintely did. I finally got to watch a whole episode last night, since 'Diners, Drive-ins and Dives' was a rerun .

It was worth the watch... didn't see that one coming. Seconded .

[jordmundt6]

I'm not sure I like the idea of a "dirty bomb" plot on Castle. Obviously with the two-parter, they're trying to capture the magick of "Tick, Tick, Tick..." and "Boom!" from last season when they had Dana Delaney guest-star as a hotshot FBI agent and Beckett and Castle almost shared that interesting breakfast. I suppose it has potential, but I'm not sold yet. However, I do have a request. Give Alexis something substantive and interesting to do during this two-parter PLEASE!! We've missed her.

[Fawkesfan1]

Originally Posted by jordmundt6

I'm not sure I like the idea of a "dirty bomb" plot on Castle. Obviously with the two-parter, they're trying to capture the magick of "Tick, Tick, Tick..." and "Boom!" from last season when they had Dana Delaney guest-star as a hotshot FBI agent and Beckett and Castle almost shared that interesting breakfast. I suppose it has potential, but I'm not sold yet. However, I do have a request. Give Alexis something substantive and interesting to do during this two-parter PLEASE!! We've missed her.

Me neither. I'd be worried that someone would be killed that I really liked on the show itself.

[Ginny1976]

BEST CASTLE YET!!! Watching it again and can't wait for next week!!

[Fawkesfan1]

Originally Posted by Ginny1976

BEST CASTLE YET!!! Watching it again and can't wait for next week!!

Awesome, I missed seeing this week's episode .

[Ginny1976]

You'll have to see it. And LOVED the Serenity mention.

[Fawkesfan1]

Originally Posted by Ginny1976

You'll have to see it. And LOVED the Serenity mention.

Guess I will, if I have the chance too. Been rather busy as of late.

Edit: Just read a good article in this week's Tv guide... about Castle and Beckett .

Spoiler: show

They're keeping them together !!!

I'm so happy I could squeal .

[freelantzer]

Fawkes, your spoiler . . .

Spoiler: show

What do you mean? Did I miss Castle and Beckett getting romantically involved?

[jordmundt6]

Last week's was an excellent episode. The two of them growing closer and working better together than the enitre squad under Nate Petrelli...er, Adrian Pasdar. I'm not wild about Lochlyn Munro as a minor villain AGAIN. Those seem to be the only roles he can get since the Charmed Fiasco a decade ago. The article was excellent enough to earn a pumped fist and a happy dance from me. As for that spoiler:

Spoiler: show

The series creator confirmed that Castle and Beckett will become a couple well before the end of the series. He cited the Moonlighting thing again. He feels that there's writing and exploring to be done after this investigative team becomes a couple (I would say that there's anecdotal evidence around Medium and NYPD Blue to name a pair of shows that supports his contention). Note, that doesn't mean it'll happen this season or next (necessarily). However we'll be spared the BONES nonsense.

[decarus]

Is the spoiler about tonight's episode?

[jordmundt6]

No, it's general info about where the series is eventually headed in character arcs. Nothing specific about tonight (though there was a little information about the opening sequence in that article).

ETA--nice episode. However, it was like they couldn't pick a way to write themselves out of the jam, almost like they were setting themselves up for a series finale twist--"Oh, by the way...everything that's happened since the middle of Season 3 was Castle's fantasy as he and Kate died in one another's arms in that freezer. They still aren't doing anything to flesh out Motorcycle Boy so aside from being a guy who randomly walks through scenes and hugs Beckett, he was a deus ex machina device to save them from the hole they wrote themselves into with the showdown during the first half of the two-parter.

I may not have liked Motorcycle Boy's interference or the fact that he was there to treat them meaning that he'll be around for most of the rest of the season when he doesn't really add anything (he's now probably used up 3 of his 9 episode contract). I did, however, like the way that Castle was completely cool as he walked away at the end of the episode (at least as he was talking to Beckett). Classic Castle. Also, they managed to include almost all of the regulars except for Tamalia Jones in the second half of this two-parter (and they got some substantive things to do). Nice work.

[freelantzer]

Thanks for posting that spoiler. I hadn't read that article. It's good to hear that they're conscious of the Bones fiasco plan to handle Castle/Beckett much better.

[HedwigOwl]

Originally Posted by jordmundt6

No, it's general info about where the series is eventually headed in character arcs. Nothing specific about tonight (though there was a little information about the opening sequence in that article).

ETA--nice episode. However, it was like they couldn't pick a way to write themselves out of the jam, almost like they were setting themselves up for a series finale twist--"Oh, by the way...everything that's happened since the middle of Season 3 was Castle's fantasy as he and Kate died in one another's arms in that freezer. They still aren't doing anything to flesh out Motorcycle Boy so aside from being a guy who randomly walks through scenes and hugs Beckett, he was a deus ex machina device to save them from the hole they wrote themselves into with the showdown during the first half of the two-parter.

I may not have liked Motorcycle Boy's interference or the fact that he was there to treat them meaning that he'll be around for most of the rest of the season when he doesn't really add anything (he's now probably used up 3 of his 9 episode contract). I did, however, like the way that Castle was completely cool as he walked away at the end of the episode (at least as he was talking to Beckett). Classic Castle. Also, they managed to include almost all of the regulars except for Tamalia Jones in the second half of this two-parter (and they got some substantive things to do). Nice work.

Yes, but isn't that the point about Motorcycle Boy? He's not really there for her unless it fits in with his schedule. It's like a neon sign saying he's temporarily in the series. By the way, do we really know the reason he came back? Was it his decision to be with Beckett, or did something just go awry with the project plans/scheduling and he didn't say? Or did I miss something?

I think that Beckett was watching closely as Castle tried to recover as Motorcycle Boy broke the mood & Castle remembered Beckett said "it means we have a chance" (she & M.B.)....she seemed to notice something was a bit off.

[Fawkesfan1]

Originally Posted by freelantzer

Fawkes, your spoiler . . .

Spoiler: show

What do you mean? Did I miss Castle and Beckett getting romantically involved?

Yea...

Spoiler: show

I figured that they were... until they brought in her boyfriend again .

Wasn't very happy about that .

@ jordmundt: Thanks for clearing that up. It's easy enough to misconstrue that kind of info every so often .

[Ginny1976]

So yeah, the second part wasn't as good as the first, but they redeemed themselves at the end. I knew they couldn't die, but couldn't see anyway out of the bomb going off except for it to just not go off and Castle ripping the cords out was priceless. Did not see that one coming. Awesome.
I can wait for them to get together. The tension is half of the fun after all. I hope this series goes long and I don't want to rush things. But now if they have Castle hook up with someone else again, I will be annoyed. There's a certain pleasure in seeing him longing for her. Something to relate to.
I just love this series!

Oh and it was fun seeing Petrelli again, but if he's just guesting on this show, I would think that means he's having a hard time finding work. Too bad.

[jordmundt6]

Pasdar had a noteworthy career before Heroes--there was some buzz about him working with part of this crew on a spin-off for this character (I think it was all white noise, but I'm not sure).

They don't have to rush them together even this season, but they need to keep showing the progression of the relationship and whoever replaces Motorcycle Boy has to provide an actual demonstrable, defensible alternative to a Castle-Beckett coupling. They want to avoid the Moonlighting mistake (the one most often cited) but they're just as mindful of Lois & Clark and JAG (where desperation to keep the leads apart and maintain tension crashed the show so that the actual coupling became an anti-climax). The article was referenced putting them together well before the end of the series at the "right" moment. That's why Stana's little clip on the dry-erase board "Don't wait too long to say 'I love you,'" (or something close to that) is so important and why the series creator has that displayed prominently in his office. They've already shown that they can provide viable, vibrant interesting alternatives for Castle--we've seen Kyra Blaine. They need to dip into that same sort of well for Beckett's next legitimate love interest if the plans for uniting the pair aren't immediate. In L&C speak, they need a (male) Mayson Drake equivalent for Beckett.

Fawkes, I get suckered plenty by published articles and interviews, but the tone and stance of the article was so refreshing (no it's not going to happen immediately, but it's not a gimmick we're saving for the end of the series) that I felt like celebrating. This is markedly different form, say, the way that Bellisario discussed the relationship between Harm and Mac on JAG (just as an example).

[Ginny1976]

It would be good to see Pasdar in something else. He plays this type of character well.

I don't know Moonlighting or JAG, but I do know L&C and yes, they killed the show with them getting together and not doing a good job about it. But yes, they will have to step it up if they're going to have another interest for Beckett, or Castle really, before they finally get together. It would have to be as if they've played every last card that they could to have a viable reason to finally put their fear aside and hook up. Making it so that it seems that every other person they've had just couldn't compare.
But again, I can wait. The writing is superb and so unless they somehow really botch things, I'm just going to enjoy the ride and see how they take things.

[jordmundt6]

The botch on L&C wasn't the actual wedding or their couplehood after it, but that Clone/Amnesia arc where they were so terrified of putting the leads together they threw in ANY excuse to keep them apart (though to be fair, that was partially to appease the arm of WB that was distributing the comics and held the rights to the movie franchise).

I can wait if they keep writing well and the relationship keeps progressing. If they start to verge into Bones-territory botching to avoid putting Castle and Beckett together, I'm going to lose patience.