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Old June 19th, 2009, 11:41 pm
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Enemy relationships mended

I think that a lot of people overlook the fact Harry had all these enemies for so long that it would be extremely tricky buisness to mend the relationship. For example, if a younger sister and older brother fought and insulted each other from the first time they met, the damage would be done and each would walk away severely hurt on the inside and the relationship would be ruined.

Harry and his family may be wizards, but they are still human, and all humans have feelings. I think that if Harry fought with the Malfoys and Dursleys for so long, that he and his family wouldn't want to speak to them that often. Think about your parents having a serious enemy; what would you think of that enemy if your whole family hated them?

I know theres the whole Romeo and Juliet thing, but their families weren't enemies because of deaths... Do you think that Harry and his friends and family would be friends and loved ones with serious enemies?


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Old June 20th, 2009, 6:14 pm
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I think that Harry wouldn't speak to the Dursleys if he could help it but, as far as the malfoys he would still acknowledge Draco as he got older. I don't see Harry holding a grudge. besides at the end of death hollows Harry did nod to Draco while they were on platform 9 3/4.


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Old June 20th, 2009, 8:56 pm
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Old June 20th, 2009, 10:22 pm
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harry forgave snape, didn't he?


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harry forgave snape, didn't he?
He forgave snape because he knew Snape wasn't out to get him like he thought.


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I think that a lot of people overlook the fact Harry had all these enemies for so long that it would be extremely tricky buisness to mend the relationship.

For example, if a younger sister and older brother fought and insulted each other from the first time they met, the damage would be done and each would walk away severely hurt on the inside and the relationship would be ruined.

Harry and his family may be wizards, but they are still human, and all humans have feelings. I think that if Harry fought with the Malfoys and Dursleys for so long, that he and his family wouldn't want to speak to them that often. Think about your parents having a serious enemy; what would you think of that enemy if your whole family hated them?

I know theres the whole Romeo and Juliet thing, but their families weren't enemies because of deaths... Do you think that Harry and his friends and family would be friends and loved ones with serious enemies?

I can't see Harry classing the Dursleys or the Malfoys as "serious enemies", that is only for the Death Eaters, and to be honest, can you blame Harry+co not wanting to socialise with the DE considering the events in the series?

I think post DH, the Death Eaters' families must have either gone into prison, hiding, or else kept themselves to themselves, especially down further generations. The children of the original DE families at Hogwarts will probably face some prejudice in the first few years post DH (quite understandable), but i'm sure the teachers, and Harry will do their best not to let this become widespread.


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Old June 21st, 2009, 2:26 pm
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I can't see Harry classing the Dursleys or the Malfoys as "serious enemies", that is only for the Death Eaters, and to be honest, can you blame Harry+co not wanting to socialise with the DE considering the events in the series?

I think post DH, the Death Eaters' families must have either gone into prison, hiding, or else kept themselves to themselves, especially down further generations. The children of the original DE families at Hogwarts will probably face some prejudice in the first few years post DH (quite understandable), but i'm sure the teachers, and Harry will do their best not to let this become widespread.
Malfoy and his family were death eaters though.


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Jo said on her website that Harry occasionally visited Dudley in the future, based on Dudley's suprising act of decency just before the Dursley's left Privet Drive in DH--they weren't close, but they stayed in contact. No mention of whether Harry ever saw Vernon or Petunia again, though...

And I can't imagine that Harry would ever be "friends" with Draco Malfoy, although they may have suspended hostilities and decided to be polite to each other, based on what we saw in the epilogue. Certainly, I don't see Harry having anything to do with Lucius or Narcissa.


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Old June 25th, 2009, 4:55 am
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Perhaps he eventually forgave Vernon and Petunia with the passage of time, but I doubt they were ever "friendly" with one another. As for Dudley, I think they were on speaking terms (per what JKR has stated concerning their relationship) but I don't think they ever got to be very close.

As for Draco, perhaps Harry eventually forgave him too, but I doubt they would ever become buddies. They would probably just exchange niceties when necessary and leave it at that.


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Old June 25th, 2009, 7:51 pm
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I think that Harry went a lot further toward forgiving and reconciling with his "enemies" than most people ever do.

If you look at the fact that he gave his second son the name of the man who was his most hated enemy but one for his middle name, you see that he has a tremendous capacity for such reconciliation.

Given this facet of Harry's character, I would expect that he would forgive Dudley based on the Dursleys Departing moment of Dudley saying I don't think you're worthless, or whatever it was. He was right; for Dudley, that might as well have been Dudley saying I love you, dear cousin, and hope you prosper in your fight against Voldemort!. Yes, I know I added a bit to that, but that's how I interpret it.

I believe he also would have forgiven Draco after he refused to identify the Trio in Malfoy Manor, and then the scene in the Room of Requirement. He insisted that they save Draco from the fiendfyre, and he told Narcissa that her son was still alive. He nods to Draco in (I think) a cordial manner on Platform 9 3/4.

Place this in contrast, if you will, with the interaction between Lucius Malfoy and Arthur Weasley in the Flourish and Blotts scene in Chamber of Secrets. If Draco and Harry still thought of themselves as bitter enemies, I imagine there would have been snide, insulting words between them when they brought their children to King's Cross to board the Hogwarts Express. It may not have descended into fisticuffs, as the altercation between Lucius and Arthur did, but surely they would have said something along the lines of a veiled insult if they'd still been enemies, rather than the cool but cordial nods they exchanged.


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Old June 25th, 2009, 8:07 pm
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Re: Enemy relationships mended

I think maybe Harry eventually realized that Draco was not as bad (or never wanted to be) as he made himself seem. I think Harry was able to move past his anger with Malfoy, but has no need to be more than cordial with him.
Same for the Dursleys.


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Malfoy and his family were death eaters though.
True, but as said above I dont think Harry will have anything to do with Lucius and Narcissa. As for Draco, I think Harry understood his situation well, he was young when Voldemort ordered him to murder his headmaster or else he and his whole family were going to be murdered, what choice do you think he had? Also when he lived at the headquarters of Voldemort a year later he was asked to torture other DEs or he'd be punished instead. Draco was a bully and a pure-blood maniac, but I think he wouldnt have gone that far from his own accord, that's why I think Harry saved him from that fire in RoR or decided to forgive him later on.


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Old July 8th, 2009, 2:41 pm
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I can see draco and Harry as good friends, but I never thinks that they will be,
but they will be polite and accept each other.

About the dursleys, I don't really think that Harry will have some contact with Vernon and Petunia, but I think he will have a contact, not close.. but a contact to dudley.
I mean, Vernon and Petunia was mean to Harry because they wanted to.
Dudley was mean to Harry just because his parent was it.

I can imagine Dudley as smarter than he looks as.


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Old July 8th, 2009, 3:06 pm
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Harry probably forgave most of his enemies, like Draco, he most likely didn't hop up and want to be best buddies with him, but he forgave him. In the Prologue they didn't attack eachother they kind of nodded at eachother so....But, if Bellatrix had lived, I'm pretty sure he would never forgive her, probably wish her dead.


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Old July 8th, 2009, 3:16 pm
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But, if Bellatrix had lived, I'm pretty sure he would never forgive her, probably wish her dead.
If she lived, I'd say the war wouldnt have ended in the first place, she couldnt have rested while her beloved master had fallen, especially that this time she couldnt claim that he will be returning, so I think if she lived she would've hunted Harry just like her master did.


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Old July 8th, 2009, 3:35 pm
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If bellatrix had lived, I thinks she woud disappear when her lord, voldermort has fallen.


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If bellatrix had lived, I thinks she woud disappear when her lord, voldermort has fallen.
I disagree, considering Voldemort's first downfall, and her reactions to it (i.e. torturing a couple of Aurors and declaring her continued loyality to her master in front of the Wizengammot) I dont think she'd have disappeared, on the contrary I think she'd have raised her head high and avenged him then, continued his dark deeds. But this is quite off the topic so I wont say more about it here


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I disagree, considering Voldemort's first downfall, and her reactions to it (i.e. torturing a couple of Aurors and declaring her continued loyality to her master in front of the Wizengammot) I dont think she'd have disappeared, on the contrary I think she'd have raised her head high and avenged him then, continued his dark deeds. But this is quite off the topic so I wont say more about it here
You have a point.
I don't really know. Well. How good. she is dead.

But, when the great lord has fallen, how many of the dead eaters will continue doing his work after his dead?


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I do believe Harry will someday speak to the Dursleys again. Most likely this will apologize. Or at least Dudley will, I'm 95% sure of that.

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Dudley did sort of apologize in the seventh book when he acted grateful that Harry saved his life. I'm sure Harry kept in touch with Dudley and was probably civil to Draco when he had to encounter him, but I don't think he would be friends with Malfoy like he is with Ron and Hermione.


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