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HBP Movie: Scenes that should/could have been in or excluded

The movie is out. The reviews are in. But as HP experts, what scenes that were left out of the novels that you think should or could have been included in the movie?

This is subjective analysis, so please remember that whilst you may feel strongly about how the movie should have been, it's not going to change the final result. You're just providing an alternative perspective. Nothing more. Nothing less.


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Old July 15th, 2009, 6:50 am
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Re: HBP Movie: Scenes that should/could have been included

Well, out of the scenes that were cut, I think the funeral was the one that showed have been in that wasn't.

I actually haven't read the book in a while and been thinking bout the movie too much to think of these things


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I think if anything they put things that weren't needed in. eg flirting with waitresses, WWW. I don't think anything else should have been included but I would have liked a strictly canon ending.


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I think if anything they put things that weren't needed in. eg flirting with waitresses, WWW. I don't think anything else should have been included but I would have liked a strictly canon ending.
Agreed! That was really stupid.


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I would have liked a strictly canon ending.
Personally, I was ok with the omissions near the end.

(I loved the cut to black after Dumbledore died, I must add!)


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Re: HBP Movie: Scenes that should/could have been included

So they didn't keep in the funeral?


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So they didn't keep in the funeral?
No. The finding of Dumbledore's body is very emotional though.


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No. The finding of Dumbledore's body is very emotional though.
That was one of the parts where I teared up a bit. I loved that they added the part with the wands in the air to Dumbledore's tribute. When Harry cries it just makes me so emotional because it's so rare, but for a really, really miserable cause.


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I just didn't like how Harry wasn't paralysed by DD and instead just stood there. I think it would have been more powerful if he was unable to do anything.


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Well, out of the scenes that were cut, I think the funeral was the one that showed have been in that wasn't.

I actually haven't read the book in a while and been thinking bout the movie too much to think of these things
Obviously, I haven't seen the movie yet and am in no position to really add an opinion, but based off what I think... I don't the the funeral would have worked, honestly. In the book alot of it is spoke through thought and Rowling's descriptions of imagery (the centaurs arrows, mermaids, etc - which admittedly would have looked gorgeous in the film), but the actual words said at the funeral would have fallen flat. We have ministry officials talking about all his great accomplishments, but Harry to himself thinks rather negatively about the fact they were the ones who spoke and his missing of Dumbledore is through thought, which is hard, or rather, impossible to convey on screen in these circumstances without narration.

Where as, on paper, the scene where the students gather around his body works better on what Dumbledore's real accomplishments were. The school and the students he taught (well, technically he didn't teach them, but you get the point ). I'll have to wait and see how it works in the film as a farewell to my favorite character of the series, but on paper, it sounds much better from a cinematic standpoint.


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I just didn't like how Harry wasn't paralysed by DD and instead just stood there. I think it would have been more powerful if he was unable to do anything.
it wouldn't have allowed for that chilling entrance by Snape, though!

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I don't the the funeral would have worked, honestly.
I don't know if it would have worked either, but that's just the scene I felt most out of the cuts should have been included ultimately. THough I haven't read HBP in a while...


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it wouldn't have allowed for that chilling entrance by Snape, though!
Well yes that's true I did like that but I think they could have done both. Maybe DD could have paralysed Harry and then had Snape enter and 'shh' him. The fact that Harry's paralysed doesn't make it any less chilling IMO. If anything I think it would have improved it in a condescending kind of way...

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Obviously, I haven't seen the movie yet and am in no position to really add an opinion, but based off what I think... I don't the the funeral would have worked, honestly.
Having seen the movie, I disagree. I Think maybe a muted over-view of the funeral would have been an appropriate ending. Just some long-shots of the students sitting around DD's coffin and someone talking (but with soft music playing over the top.


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We need to consider the funeral from a movie standpoint. They *do* have a budget, and the funeral would require tons of extras, quite a few special effects, etc. They probably needed to conserve their budget. I think the wand tribute was a fitting substitute, because the funeral had so many major characters present (some of their actors might have been unavailable).


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We need to consider the funeral from a movie standpoint. They *do* have a budget, and the funeral would require tons of extras, quite a few special effects, etc. They probably needed to conserve their budget. I think the wand tribute was a fitting substitute, because the funeral had so many major characters present (some of their actors might have been unavailable).
I fail to see what special effects they would need. Extras yes but they had lots of extras for the wand salute anyway.


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I fail to see what special effects they would need. Extras yes but they had lots of extras for the wand salute anyway.
Yeah, but the funeral had a lot of significant characters there, like Umbridge.

Special effects needed for funeral - mermaid, Grawp, centaurs, etc.


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Yeah, but the funeral had a lot of significant characters there, like Umbridge.

Special effects needed for funeral - mermaid, Grawp, centaurs, etc.
Mermaids, Grawp, centaurs and Umbridge would not have been needed at the funeral. None are important for what could have been a nice short scene at the end. They'd need to show the important teachers, maybe the minister of magic (who only book readers would know), the trio, Luna, Ginny, Neville etc. That would have sufficed.


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I wanted to see the fighting inside Hogwarts at the end! Of course, I do understand that a fight in HPB might detract from the fight in DH, but still... I wanted the dueling anyways...
Oh, and Dumbledore's line about knowing he was safe because he was with Harry, or something along those lines...
Still, the movie was incredible and very well adapted too!


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Yeah, but the funeral had a lot of significant characters there, like Umbridge.
I'm sorry, but I think for the non-reader audience, they would have been stunned the director included her in the scene and would have made it feel detached.
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Special effects needed for funeral - mermaid, Grawp, centaurs, etc.
You see, this is the only reason I think the funeral could have worked, perhaps instead of having ministry officials, have Minerva speak and then have the imagery of the centaurs and mermaids paying their tribute.


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I absolutely loved quidditch in this film.
I would of loved another game

But I guess it wasn't devestating, I'm happy Quidditch was in it TBH.


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Oh yes, Quidditch! I loved Ron's amazing saves. Bloody brilliant <3


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