Which Tom Riddle do you prefer?

[Voldemorts8thHorcrux]

Originally Posted by ActingDude17

Voldemorts8thHorcrux, as I have said before, you present the most cohesive pro-Coulson argument, but with comments like this on your side, it makes it hard to appreciate Coulson's supporters as a whole. They seem to appreciate him for his looks and not his acting abilities. Dillane's supporters like him because of how we perceive his acting. Of course, you appreciate Coulson for his acting, but it seems all the other positive comments about him are "omg he's hawt!!!11".

What bothers me about people "appreciating" Dillane is appreciating him for the wrong reasons. Yes, he should be slightly creepy, but I very rarely see any compliments on how he's being charming, while I have heard quite a few people say that Coulson is charming

Originally Posted by Dobby_26

The boy Tom Riddle, when Dumbledore meets him for the first time at the orphanage. Both in the book, when he was potrayed exactly as I would have seen him as a child and in the movie where the actor looked like a spitting image of the boy Tom Riddle that i imagined. He was a good looking kid, yet looked really evil at the same time.

Actually, the book Tom was a bit more....ragged? with the whole "TELL THE TRUTH!" and wild happiness.

[xXLilyLunaXx]

I personally prefer the Riddle from CoS, and not just for Coulson's looks. IMO he just seemed much more like how I pictured Tom from reading the books- handsome, charming, with just a touch of creepy showing through. I do feel Hero Fiennes-Tiffin gave a fair attempt at playing the younger version, but Dillane I think was just overall a poor casting choice. I mean, I'm not trying to be overly critical, but he looks WAY too young for a teenage Riddle, who I always picture looking very mature for his age, and just seems like kind of a "pretty boy" rather than handsome, for lack of a better term. I don't think his acting was all that great besides.

[LoonyForMoony]

I greatly prefer the Tom from HBP. Coulson, apart from being far to old for the role, allows his voice to fluctuate too much and shows his emotions far too clearly. Not that that's at all bad, he's definitely a decent actor, but he doesn't get across the almost over-done politeness which Dillane captures perfectly. I think it is far easier to understand with Dillane why certain teachers would have fallen under Tom's spell; while Dumbledore, having seen Tom in more unguarded moments and being more intuitive on the whole, never trusted him.

Just my two cents. =D

[Voldemorts8thHorcrux]

Originally Posted by seeker15

I greatly prefer the Tom from HBP. Coulson, apart from being far to old for the role, allows his voice to fluctuate too much and shows his emotions far too clearly. Not that that's at all bad, he's definitely a decent actor, but he doesn't get across the almost over-done politeness which Dillane captures perfectly. I think it is far easier to understand with Dillane why certain teachers would have fallen under Tom's spell; while Dumbledore, having seen Tom in more unguarded moments and being more intuitive on the whole, never trusted him.

Just my two cents. =D

Well, the Tom in Cos showed his emotions in the Chamber and not in front of Dippet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwWJLdYaNtI at the beginning he has his emotions pretty well reined in (i'm guessing this is legal because even the audio tracks have been removed from youtube a few months ago due to legal reasons and I know that the full movie isn't on youtube either and they most likely wouldn't have missed this snippet)

[ActingDude17]

Originally Posted by xXLilyLunaXx

I personally prefer the Riddle from CoS, and not just for Coulson's looks. IMO he just seemed much more like how I pictured Tom from reading the books- handsome, charming, with just a touch of creepy showing through.

Really? Coulson didn't come off creepy at all, at least to me. I can't even believe his Riddle grows up to be Lord Voldemort.

[Voldemorts8thHorcrux]

Originally Posted by ActingDude17

Really? Coulson didn't come off creepy at all, at least to me. I can't even believe his Riddle grows up to be Lord Voldemort.

really? after his performance in the Chamber?

And actually, thats the point. If you can't believe that his Riddle grows up to be Voldy, he did his job as an actor. Even Dumbledore didnt think that Riddle would grow up to be so evil

[lovehedwig]

I didn't really like any of the two's performances. Tom Riddle in CoS, overall, gave a satisfying performances, however, I felt that he didn't delivery his lines so well, sometimes. He wasn't as "creepy" as I wanted him to be, nor was he really frightening as I imagined him to be. He definitely acted evil and malicious, but the creepiness factor wasn't in there for me. I also liked his intensity, if that makes sense.
Based on his appearance, he was pretty much what I imagined him to look like: the sleek black hair and a sort of pale complexion to his skin. Not too much to criticize about his looks.
As for the one in HBP, he got the creepiness factor down perfectly. I was definitely creeped by his performance. His voice and delivery of lines were just so eerie and he sounded like a killer, which he turns out to be. However, I'm not sure he sounded as malicious as the CoS Riddle; he sounded more creepy than evil. As for appearance, he looked fine as Riddle. The same black hair, as described in the books, and a bit of a pale complexion that I imagined.
So, I think both Riddles played their parts well.

However, even if it doesn't count, I think kid-Riddle, played by Hero Fiennes Tiffin, was the best out of the Riddle portrayals. Definitely creepy, DEFINITELY showing signs of an "evil" being, and he is adorable! But I think he captured kid-Riddle VERY well.

[Voldemorts8thHorcrux]

Originally Posted by lovehedwig

I didn't really like any of the two's performances. Tom Riddle in CoS, overall, gave a satisfying performances, however, I felt that he didn't delivery his lines so well, sometimes. He wasn't as "creepy" as I wanted him to be, nor was he really frightening as I imagined him to be. He definitely acted evil and malicious, but the creepiness factor wasn't in there for me. I also liked his intensity, if that makes sense.
Based on his appearance, he was pretty much what I imagined him to look like: the sleek black hair and a sort of pale complexion to his skin. Not too much to criticize about his looks.

As for creepiness, are you talking about in the memory or in the chamber? Because even Harry wasnt creeped out my Tom Riddle in the diary, he even thought that he made a mistake in framing Hagrid

However, even if it doesn't count, I think kid-Riddle, played by Hero Fiennes Tiffin, was the best out of the Riddle portrayals. Definitely creepy, DEFINITELY showing signs of an "evil" being, and he is adorable! But I think he captured kid-Riddle VERY well.

I really want to give kid tom a hug now

[lovehedwig]

Originally Posted by Voldemorts8thHorcrux

As for creepiness, are you talking about in the memory or in the chamber? Because even Harry wasnt creeped out my Tom Riddle in the diary, he even thought that he made a mistake in framing Hagrid


I really want to give kid tom a hug now

In the diary, I think he was just trying to make Harry think he wasn't the bad guy, which is sticking to canon, so he played him well there.
In the chamber, though, I don't think he was creepy enough.To be fair, I don't think Tom Riddle was supposed to be majorly creepy whilst explaining everything to Harry, more angry and evil. But I still wanted a little creepiness out of him, because he IS a creepy fellow fascinated with dark magic. His delivery seemed a little forced at times, while I imagined Riddle to say it like he was talking to a friend about a science project he just conducted. Maybe it's the way I perceived it, but I just wanted some creepiness.

And yes, upon first appearance, I wanted to pinch kid Riddle's cheeks. Then, hearing him talk to Dumbledore about "making bad things happen to people who are mean to him" made me think twice. I mean, his delivery of lines and the look on his face really screamed, "I'm Lord Voldemort. FEAR ME." I got chills watching his short, but memorable performance.

[Voldemorts8thHorcrux]

Originally Posted by lovehedwig

In the diary, I think he was just trying to make Harry think he wasn't the bad guy, which is sticking to canon, so he played him well there.
In the chamber, though, I don't think he was creepy enough.To be fair, I don't think Tom Riddle was supposed to be majorly creepy whilst explaining everything to Harry, more angry and evil. But I still wanted a little creepiness out of him, because he IS a creepy fellow fascinated with dark magic. His delivery seemed a little forced at times, while I imagined Riddle to say it like he was talking to a friend about a science project he just conducted. Maybe it's the way I perceived it, but I just wanted some creepiness.

I think he did a pretty decent job with the creepiness factor but yeah, i did imagine him to be a bit angry, i mean, Harry's the guy who randomly almost killed him when he was a baby

And yes, upon first appearance, I wanted to pinch kid Riddle's cheeks. Then, hearing him talk to Dumbledore about "making bad things happen to people who are mean to him" made me think twice. I mean, his delivery of lines and the look on his face really screamed, "I'm Lord Voldemort. FEAR ME." I got chills watching his short, but memorable performance.

heehee, i still want to give him a hug

[Krums_Girl]

The kid riddle in HBP is way more LV-ish to me. You can believe that he grows up to be LV. He is just very, very creepy, while the Riddle from CoS is just an old guy from a diary. I always saw him a Tom Riddle, not Lord Voldemort. I can, however, see the Riddle from HBP as Lord Voldemort. I prefer the Riddle from HBP.

[SunXia]

I preferred the original Tom Riddle in Chamber of Secrets although the child wasn't half bad at showing the young Riddle's childish streak!!

I preferred how he was portrayed as trustworthy and almost sincere!! He really only became manic after revealing his name!! It's more believable for me considering there were quite a number of instances where Riddle charmed information and such out of people!! The older Riddle in HBP was a tad too, freakish for my liking!!

[ActingDude17]

Frank Dillane's Riddle in HBP did charm Slughorn well. If you watch Jim Broadbent's face carefully he shows no signs of anxiety until the end of the scene. The filmmakers make us perceive it as creepy because that's how we need to see Voldemort's character in the sense of telling the story. Take out the lighting, cinematography, music and all, and it's actually not that scary. Dillane is simply smiling to himself, most of the time turning away from Slughorn looking interested in the fire.

[Voldemorts8thHorcrux]

Originally Posted by ActingDude17

Frank Dillane's Riddle in HBP did charm Slughorn well. If you watch Jim Broadbent's face carefully he shows no signs of anxiety until the end of the scene. The filmmakers make us perceive it as creepy because that's how we need to see Voldemort's character in the sense of telling the story. Take out the lighting, cinematography, music and all, and it's actually not that scary. Dillane is simply smiling to himself, most of the time turning away from Slughorn looking interested in the fire.

Tom doesn't smile or look into the fire in the book...but i agree that the setting made up a lot of the creepiness, but if it was Coulson in there, it would've been drastically reduced.

[Shingie]

Originally Posted by mrfutterman

I don't think Tom's character was developed in the books at all: he merely progresses from crime to crime. He is already a criminal when we meet him at the age of 11 and each of the pensieve memories show him doing something pretty bad: wheedling info on horcruxes from Slughorn; preparing to murder Hepzibah and the Riddles.

I would never call a child "awful looking". He is pretty ordinary, and was directed to present as somewhat creepy, without being over-the-top.

No, Riddle's character was never developed much, but the problem is that he masked his evil so well nobody would have guessed he would turn out like a train wreck.

In the book, everybody is supposed to be fooled by his mask of innocence and charm, and if Dillane was Riddle, people would obviously see that he's a very disturbed kid and NOT normal.

He isn't supposed to appear creepy, he's supposed to appear normal. That's what psychopaths do, and do very well.

So that's why I think it's out of character for Dillane to act so creepy.

[decarus]

I sort of think at this point we all need to go see HBP and watch the scene with teenage Riddle again. I just didn't see the extreme creepiness. I actually didn't think he seemed any creepier then the guy in CoS. The thing about all Riddle scenes that make them creepy for me is that i know Riddle is Voldemort.

[kieu]

I prefer the Riddle from CoS. This, however, doesn't necessarily mean that Coulson is a better actor than Dillane nor that he played his part better, he was just the first to portray young Riddle on screen so, naturally, he influenced our image of him. Most people were expecting to see in HBP a young Voldemort that resembled Coulson and were probably a bit disappointed.
Anyway, as many of you already said, Dillane did seem too creepy, and not charming enough.

[Miss_Bellatrix]

I liked the on in HBP. I thought all of them were good. But I could sort of feel it,you know, when the little kid says something like "I can hurt them if I want." and "I can speak to snakes too. They find me. Whisper things.". It's creepy! Very creepy. But again that's what I liked about him. He didn't grow up to be the darkest wizard of all times for nothing.

[LewsTherin]

I liked Christian Coulson more. I always pictured young Riddle as someone who could engender trust, not unlike Jean-Luc Picard of Star Wars fame. He would be handsome, charasmatic, charming, compassionate when necessary, kind when necessary; a teen toying with the concept of evil but not yet turned truly evil. To find any evil, you'd need to look very, very closely. Dillane's Riddle would have engendered no trust, in anyone. His Riddle was already as evil as can be. I can imagine Dillane's Riddle being bullied, while I could not imagine Coulson's Riddle being bullied, simply because people would like him too much. Dillane was good, don't get me wrong, but I prefered Coulson.

[mrfutterman]

Originally Posted by Shingie

In the book, everybody is supposed to be fooled by his mask of innocence and charm, and if Dillane was Riddle, people would obviously see that he's a very disturbed kid and NOT normal.

Assured and articulate, Dillane came across as a Head Boy type.

I don't know what you are talking about.