Deathly Hallows Part 1 - Open Discussion

[Galvanize]

Originally Posted by ArryGrotter

In HBP, Slughorn says 'to rip the soul into seven pieces'. So 6 Horcruxes.

That actually makes perfect sense. Thanks for clearing that up

[thefirestorm]

I know a lot of fans probably didn't like the scene because of the passionate Harry/Hermione kiss.

But the silver doe/underwater/locket destruction sequence was the highlight of the movie for me - especially the locket destruction.

It was just so creepily and perfectly done. The way it exploded into the huge (ink/fog?) monster and tormented Ron using lines pretty much verbatim to the book was perfectly executed. When Hermione and Harry came out is when this scene really impressed me. I loved the white un-natural glow they had to them and Hermione's cruel words followed by the intense make-out, really was eerie.

Other scenes I loved from the movie are:
Xeno Lovegood: Especially when the Trio said they were leaving and he smashed the dishes and had a breakdown.
Malfoy Manor: The small portion we were shown of Hermione's torture made me cringe.
Dobby and Kreacher in Grimmauld Place was definitely in my top three scenes.

I was so impressed with this movie!

[Navalina]

Originally Posted by danno

Just out of curiosity... how'd you people see the movie already? Made it into early premiers?

In many parts of Europe the movie was released on the 17th.

I saw it twice yesterday, the first time alone, the second time with a friend. I prefer to watch it on my own the first time so I can take it all in without outside influences. Both my friend and I absolutely loved it!

They weren't kidding when they said this one's a lot darker than the previous ones. I cried several times (particularly when Hedwig is killed, when Harry visits his parents' grave and when Hermione wipes her parents' memories) and I was creeped out by many things, like Bathilda Bagshot and the murder of the Muggle Studies teacher at the beginning. The torture of Hermione was bloodcurdling.

I really loved the animated 'Tale of the Three Brothers'. It was totally unexpected, but so beautifully done. I love that they told the story in its entirety, because it's so important to the plot.

I can't really judge if the plot was explained properly to people who haven't read the book. I do think it could be kind of confusing for them.

In my opinion this is also the funniest movie so far. Fred/George's reaction when Harry and Ginny kiss in the kitchen, the visit to the Ministry, the seven Potters, Dobby, Ron trying to make up to Hermione, .. The list goes on and on. Some may think it's inappropiate sometimes, but I love it because without the humour it would be a seriously depressing movie.

Now what I really hated was the Harry/Hermione kiss. Not because they're kissing, but because it looks so very, very bad. What's with the weird blue special effects? And was it really necessary to make them topless and the kiss so passionnate? It was totally cringeworthy.

Probably my favourite part of the movie was just a very small thing. After Ron leaves, Harry and Hermione dance in the tent. I just absolutely loved that part.

Before seeing it I thought the split was totally unnecessary, but now I've completely changed my mind. It would've been impossible to put everything into one movie.

[Pearl_Took]

Originally Posted by thefirestorm

I know a lot of fans probably didn't like the scene because of the passionate Harry/Hermione kiss.

Here's one fan who loved it.

But the silver doe/underwater/locket destruction sequence was the highlight of the movie for me - especially the locket destruction.

It was just so creepily and perfectly done. The way it exploded into the huge (ink/fog?) monster and tormented Ron using lines pretty much verbatim to the book was perfectly executed. When Hermione and Harry came out is when this scene really impressed me. I loved the white un-natural glow they had to them and Hermione's cruel words followed by the intense make-out, really was eerie.

It's a fabulous scene. And I love the Silver Doe.

Originally Posted by Navalina

In my opinion this is also the funniest movie so far. Fred/George's reaction when Harry and Ginny kiss in the kitchen, the visit to the Ministry, the seven Potters, Dobby, Ron trying to make up to Hermione, .. The list goes on and on. Some may think it's inappropiate sometimes, but I love it because without the humour it would be a seriously depressing movie.

I totally agree. The humour lightens the tension at appropriate moments, because the film is just so dark otherwise!

Now what I really hated was the Harry/Hermione kiss. Not because they're kissing, but because it looks so very, very bad. What's with the weird blue special effects? And was it really necessary to make them topless and the kiss so passionnate? It was totally cringeworthy.

The sensuality is already there in Rowling's writing. She makes that scene disturbing and, yes, sensual. (I thought that the first time I read it.) Riddle Hermione continues to taunt Ron by placing her lips on Riddle Harry's. The film-makers quite naturally amped it up a bit!

Glad you enjoyed the rest of the film though!

[thefirestorm]

Here's one fan who loved it.

I'm totally with you on this one!

One part I particularly liked in the Ministry scene was the detonators! I didn't think this would impress me, I thought it would be a scene that wouldn't stand out. But I loved the way the detonators scampered across the floor and went off one by one.

It's a fabulous scene. And I love the Silver Doe.

The silver doe was no less than beautiful. I loved the way it wasn't quite fully illuminated, but kind of murky. (That is described completely wrong using the word murky, but it's hard to describe what I mean exactly.)

One scene I didn't expect was Harry's small look in the cupboard under the stairs. I loved how the toys we see him playing with in PS are there.

[snugglepot]

Originally Posted by Erin6

Snugglepot, it's really that bad? Does the kiss itself really last 2 or 3 minutes?

To me it was.
I absolutely detest the whole H/Hr romance idea.
The kiss is horrible. When I opened my eyes in the middle it looked like Hermione was eating Harry's face. That's what made me so ill.
I don't know how much time it took. Too long in my opinion.
Up till then, it was great. The Horcrux Harry and Hermione were saying things to Ron, just like in the book. They looked totally fake so I thought, I can deal with this, but when they started kissing they just looked more realistic and the bare skin was so obvious. It was nauseating (sp?). That's when I closed my eyes. I lost track of time, then when I opened them, it was still going. Even worse than before, so I closed them again.
It was definately the worst part of the movie for me followed by that much debated dancing scene!

[LizaW]

I JUST CAME HOME. I AM SHOCKED, AWED, SPEECHLESS.
Well I do have some words in me to cough it all up :P
The movie, was fantastic, that's my response. The entire time that I was watching it (2 hours and 15 minutes?) I was mentally comparing it to the book.. And then I basically just told myself to stop doing that and stop disappointing myself, and enjoy the MOVIE, since I can always read the BOOK at home. Some scenes were left out, I was disappointed in those, especially the whole Petunia issue, his birthday, Kreacher's tale, oh Kreacher's tale I was looking forward to that.. His mom's letter, that just makes me wonder what will happen to Snapes memories.. I think I should stop rambling now..

About the dance, oh come on guys, you can't be that harsh, it was quite obvious from Harry's facial expression that it was nothing more than a friendly dance to cheer her up. You would all do the same if you were in his position, after all he has known Hermione for 7 years now, and he does talk and walk and be her friend even when Ron is not around. He just felt sorry, part of it was his fault, and he just came to help, to be her brother. So leave that behind you. The kiss, well, the kiss as disturbing as it might be to some of you, it was what it should have been, Ron's worst nightmare, so yes it had to be exaggerated.
But what happened to Gringotts, that's what I want to know! We just skipped to right before the final hiding place! I know it's going to be in the second movie, but why jumble things up? And where were all the fine details, Dobby's rock grave for example?
And if you thought Hermione's and Harry's kiss was bad.. What about Ginny's o.o

[thefirestorm]

But what happened to Gringotts, that's what I want to know! We just skipped to right before the final hiding place! I know it's going to be in the second movie, but why jumble things up?

I'm pretty certain it isn't jumbled up. The book goes to Shell Cottage to Gringotts, just like the movie will.

One thing I haven't mentioned is the Snatcher chase. I thought the way they started running without any background music was super-effective. I loved the way the shaky cam made it all the more hectic. My favourite moment of the chase was when Hermione knew she was cornered and gave up by turning around and stunning Harry.

[silver ink pot]

Pearl: One thing I've been meaning to ask you believe is whether it is implied that Snape is in the "Sky Battle" during the Seven Potters. Is he the DE in the mask that is seen flying away last on his broom?

(Of course I'm going to see it tonight at midnight so I'll see for myself, LOL)

Originally Posted by LizaW

His mom's letter, that just makes me wonder what will happen to Snapes memories.. I think I should stop rambling now..

I know that they did make a Letter prop for the movie because someone saw it on the set. It might be in Movie Two or might be something they decided was unnecessary to show the connection between Snape/Harry.

Snape's memories are going to be included in Prince's Tale in Movie Two. They have cast young Lily and Sirius, and now we just need Little Snape and James. ETA: Dan Radcliffe confirmed this in a TV spot, and mentioned watching Snape's memories in the Pensieve.

[tine]

Originally Posted by danno

Just out of curiosity... how'd you people see the movie already? Made it into early premiers?

It premiered yesterday, in Holland, and is open for public today. But some theatres like to bend the rules a bit and screen it Tuesday night (technically Wednesday) at 00:10. They always do when a new Harry Potter comes out.

I really like the H/Hr kiss, I don't like the ship actually but what it did for the film. Especially for Ron, it was agony and it showed.

The thing that bugged me most though was the chase with the seven Potters. They all go straight to the Burrow. The whole point of the seven Potters was that the Death Eaters didn't know which was the real one and where he was going.

I loved the Malfoy's. They were so not superior anymore and it showed.

[Riddlemetom]

Hi everyone, I saw the movie yesterday and LOVED IT, but a few things bothered me:

I'm most disappointed that Dudley’s goodbye was left out, I thought that was really important and a sort of closure on what has been in every book, the Dursley’s hatred for Harry. And then Dudley being nice was just a perfect end for that. idk, just disappointed.

The way the patronus announced the fall of the ministry, I think it was just too calm, slow and weird sounding, kinda drowsy. I imagined it was more loud, panicky and more warning-ish.


Bellatrix “torturing” Hermione, nothing was shown.

I wanted to see more of Kreatcher and him becoming nice to them, Harry finding the torn note from his mother wasn't included either. isn't that sort if important for later when we find out Snape was the one who tore it cause he loved her?

And for part 2, do you think they will include them setting free and riding on the dragon? I'm so excited to see that, and when they're in the vault and everything multiplies my millions and they almost drown. Gaah I can't wait!

[LupinsHowl786]

Yeah the torture scene was not as good as it could have been but we have to understand that the PG-13 rating would go up if there was something more disturbing.

[Unrepentant]

Just sparked another thing in my memory; The scene where Herione tries to teach Ron fur elise on the piano wad bloody great! I really though it was cute, and effective.

[dreyesbo]

Originally Posted by LupinsHowl786

Yeah the torture scene was not as good as it could have been but we have to understand that the PG-13 rating would go up if there was something more disturbing.

No, it wouldn't have gone up. The torture scene in Casino Royale, also PG-13, was far worse than this one.

[LupinsHowl786]

Wow, then they definitely should have amped up the torture. It would have made the Malfoy Manor scene a lot better!

[senem]

hello all...

watched once and really liked it... looking forward to see it again
dunno maybe it's just bcs I wasn't really expecting anythng, after the hated 6th one... this one was not great but it gave me a similar feeling with the book, was like turning the pages at some parts... so well done

Hermione erasing her past was one of the best scenes ever but for Ron they cut the fact that he created a fake Ron and left behind (so this could be an answer why he wasnt at Hogwarts) but i think they just thought it wasnt that neccesarry.
also Harry didn't say a proper goodbye to Ginny... that kiss was just a kiss but the thng he broke up with her just because he knew that he had to leave and he knew that Ginny should stay.. wasn't there... but they just showed the kiss part, which was no where like a "last kiss" but just two lovers kissing.. no drama at all
ah well, there wasn't a proper goodbye to Dursleys as well... we won't be seeing them anymore... it was quite annoying to see just the back of Dudley... but better than nothng i suppose

Grimmauld scenes were all nice but i think it wasn't there enough that they worked a lot abt the plan and abt Kreacher as well, how rude he was at the begining but how he turned out after the gift, we all now the story but... anyways im just curious how'd they tie everythng up to "respect and love".. kreachers story was too important to skip imho...

and come on, wheres the invisibility cloak... was that too hard or time consuming to make them use it at least once? the wand yea there it was... snitch well yea, mystery but seen enough... but the cloak... missing like never existed... hell no...

I loved the horcrux destroying part, the "riddlemade" kiss didn't bother me at all bcs it was just a nightmare, not the reality. but the dance tho, was real and pretty annoying for me. but i do thnk it was just there bcs of the H+Hr fans... pls pls don't tell me that it was just a bro-sis dance... no way... just hated that
and also a conversation was missing there, the one which Harry tells Ron that "she is just a sister for me" and a hug after that... could be nice... but anyways, no problem

oh, just remembered: it was nice to see Neville and Ginny and some others on the train... hoping to see more in the very last part abt whats going on at school... how did they make progress and tortures and other stuff... they have to show some

I cant imagine myself watchng the second part... i will be in tears no matter what... gonna be sad bigtime... bcs atm i know that there will be one more and this is a big relief...

well, i know i wrote a bit messy with a bit poor English but thnx for reading anyways

[Riddlemetom]

In my country the movie age limit is 11.

[mikecolin6]

IT WAS AMAZING! Im in shock

[LizaW]

The movie here was Pg 15 .. Strange, but at the same time they never check for ages.. I saw an 8 year old kid who came as well.
Yes sorry about my earlier mistake, I was mislead by my friend, who thought that Voldemort taking the elder wand was after they escaped Gringotts.
Ah yes, the piano scene was so cool, and Ron just made us all go D'AWW! He's such a great guy, and I agree, torturing at Malfoy's manor could have been pushed a little further, but I'm sure there are scenes in the DVD? .. Hermione's scream was honestly blood curling, well done, that made me shiver o.o
hedwrig's death was more honorific, if you ask me. Still made me sad though..

[Noldus]

Originally Posted by yoshi2542

- Yates succeeds in mimicking the jump scares from POA

Jump scares in PoA? It has kinda become a tradition for Yates to include a jump scare in every installment; the dementor attack in OotP, the scene in which an inferi grabs Harry's wrist in HBP and probably Nagini showing her teeth in this one.