Deathly Hallows Part 1 - Open Discussion

[GingerCat1]

Originally Posted by folly54

I wish they would give Ginny more to do in the movies. I'm very disappointed by her limited screen time.

I feel that Bonnie Wright was the casters worst decision in the movies as not only does she look nothing like any of the other Weasley's but i have seen no signs that she is a good actress.

Like her or hate her Ginny is supposed to be fiery and full of life but Bonnie Wright's portrayal of Ginny makes her look like she is constantly on her way to a funeral.

[LaurentDR]

Originally Posted by Erin6

I hate what they've done to Ginny in these movies. I liked her in the books, but she is so boring in these movies. I don't know if its an actress problem, or if they just don't want her to be anything other then the girl who Harry loves. Although they've done a horrible job in showing that Harry even likes her.

Yep. It's true that we don't see her a lot and if someone that hasn't read the books watched the movies; I suppose some people could have some doubts on their relationship (apart the Kiss before the wedding in DH P1.) I mean I'm still in the progress of reading the books, but i have obviously found our the H/R & H/G relationships. I don't know if everyone could of have made that relation if they haven't read the books.

[Erin6]

Originally Posted by LaurentDR

Yep. It's true that we don't see her a lot and if someone that hasn't read the books watched the movies; I suppose some people could have some doubts on their relationship (apart the Kiss before the wedding in DH P1.) I mean I'm still in the progress of reading the books, but i have obviously found our the H/R & H/G relationships. I don't know if everyone could of have made that relation if they haven't read the books.

I feel like even in the books, the Harry/Ginny relationship is somewhat contrived and came out of nowhere, but it is done so much better by JKR, so I at least buy it. Now I don't know how their relationship will be portrayed in part 2, but if it's nothing more then what it was in Part 1, then a lot of people are going to be somewhat confused as to how Harry ended up with Ginny.

[GingerCat1]

Originally Posted by Erin6

I feel like even in the books, the Harry/Ginny relationship is somewhat contrived and came out of nowhere, but it is done so much better by JKR, so I at least buy it. Now I don't know how their relationship will be portrayed in part 2, but if it's nothing more then what it was in Part 1, then a lot of people are going to be somewhat confused as to how Harry ended up with Ginny.

The very least Kloves and Yates could have done is have Harry look at Ginny's name on the Maurader's Map a few times to show that he is thinking of her and misses her (like he does in the book) but they couldn't even manage that.

[bigseach]

They could have had Harry tell Hermione jokes or some silly story or perhaps played charades instead of a dorky version of dancing with the stars.

As far as Ginny goes, they cut the bit with Ron and Hermione being prefects. Thus Harry doesn't ride the train with Ginny, Neville, and Luna, that would add another Ginny scene. Also they didn't show Ginny as being more with the group in ootp and hbp. The book had them spending more time together at the Burrow and at school.

[Erin6]

Originally Posted by GingerCat1

The very least Kloves and Yates could have done is have Harry look at Ginny's name on the Maurader's Map a few times to show that he is thinking of her and misses her (like he does in the book) but they couldn't even manage that.

Exactly! They showed him looking at the map, so how hard would it have been to have him look at Ginny's name along with Snape's.

[GingerCat1]

Originally Posted by Erin6

Exactly! They showed him looking at the map, so how hard would it have been to have him look at Ginny's name along with Snape's.

All that is saying is that Harry hates Snape more than he loves Ginny. Of course in the movies i think Harry would love herpes more than he loves Ginny.

[Clockworthy]

Originally Posted by GingerCat1

All that is saying is that Harry hates Snape more than he loves Ginny. Of course in the movies i think Harry would love herpes more than he loves Ginny.

...I'm a terrible person, I snickered at that.

Like her or hate her Ginny is supposed to be fiery and full of life but Bonnie Wright's portrayal of Ginny makes her look like she is constantly on her way to a funeral.

Seriously...they could have least put a bit of energy or enthusiasm into that kiss...even when they break away, she doesn't look embarrassed, just...blank.

[Jigga]

I am attracted to the Ginny of the book but the Ginny in the movies is like looking at the yellow wallpaper.

[MoodyHarry]

Originally Posted by decarus
I really think that people just want to not see the sexual tension. I think those who don't see it are not seeing it because they don't want to see it. They want it to just be a scene between friends.

Originally Posted by boushh

Or maybe these people just see the scene that way?

I agree with decarus - many people really really don't want to have anything that would interfere with their Ron/Hermione pairing preference. It's R/Hr, and nothing can convince otherwise. It's like a lot of people who are very very very angry that one minor detail was changed in the movies.

And now I agree with boush, assuming you are saying that they see the scene as they see it, not because they don't want to see it...

I saw the tension. I went into this movie having seen the little behind the scenes clips of the dancing scene - the background clips were cute and fun, etc. THAT is what I expected to see. I expected to see Harry cheering her up like that, something fun and light, the twirling, laughing, etc. So like I said before, the look Harry gave, the locket removal and the rest, I was like...wow....

But then, maybe I wanted to see the tension. But I did go in with OTHER preconceived notions, so there you are.


Another comment on another part. Anyone think that Bathilda was unbelievably creepy. There was one shot of her eyes, that really freaked and creeped me out. Really well done. And played out much like the book, where Harry just blindly follows her. Thought it was excellent.

In that same creepy vein, the opening shot with poor Chastity Burbage - I think the way she was hanging, like her wrists and ankles were bound together, was actually a bit more effective visually. She look pitiful and suffering, so they did that well.

Re: Ginny - the above comments made me laugh....Oh so true though, as sad as that is...Maybe all Harry needs is a Horcrux!Ginny... Oh man...

[Erin6]

I think Bonnie Wright is a huge problem with Ginny. She was fine as a kid, but once she got older, they should have just recast her. I can't believe that people would have been all that upset about a recast.

[magic_is_might]

To be honest, I'm not that big of a fan of Bonnie Wright either

I just don't think she does Ginny that well. At first, but after HBP....

[Jigga]

Originally Posted by Erin6

I think Bonnie Wright is a huge problem with Ginny. She was fine as a kid, but once she got older, they should have just recast her. I can't believe that people would have been all that upset about a recast.

She was great as a young Ginny but dreadul as the mature Ginny. It makes you question Harry's critical decision making skills.

[Erin6]

Originally Posted by magic_is_might

To be honest, I'm not that big of a fan of Bonnie Wright either

I just don't think she does Ginny that well. At first, but after HBP....

I've never seen her in anything else, so I can only go by her acting in these movies, but I've always wondered if there was a more capable actress in the role, if Ginny's role would have been somewhat expanded.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jigga

I am attracted to the Ginny of the book but the Ginny in the movies is like looking at the yellow wallpaper.

I tend to agree with this. I never found Bonnie to be attractive at all. I almost feel bad for Dan Radcliffe. Just kidding, but in all honesty, I really don't like her character, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Erin6

I think Bonnie Wright is a huge problem with Ginny. She was fine as a kid, but once she got older, they should have just recast her. I can't believe that people would have been all that upset about a recast.

I agree with this also. To be honest though, I hate recasting. I think if any change were to be made, it should have been in casting Ginny to begin with. Oh well, I guess it is what it is.

[magic_is_might]

Yeah, as displeased as I am with Wright as Ginny, I think I'd dislike a recast even more.

[GingerCat1]

Originally Posted by magic_is_might

Yeah, as displeased as I am with Wright as Ginny, I think I'd dislike a recast even more.

I don't think a recast would have been that bad if it was done before OotP as other than the chamber of secrets scene i think Bonnie was actually on screen for less a combined total of a minute in PS/SS, PoA and GoF and she would have had 5 or 6 lines at most in those movies. A recast could have easily been done when the movie makers realised that Ginny was going to play a bigger role OotP onwards and that Bonnie wasn't up to the job.

[Erin6]

Originally Posted by Rich

I tend to agree with this. I never found Bonnie to be attractive at all. I almost feel bad for Dan Radcliffe. Just kidding, but in all honesty, I really don't like her character, unfortunately.



I agree with this also. To be honest though, I hate recasting. I think if any change were to be made, it should have been in casting Ginny to begin with. Oh well, I guess it is what it is.

You think they shouldn't have cast Ginny at all?

[magic_is_might]

Originally Posted by GingerCat1

I don't think a recast would have been that bad if it was done before OotP as other than the chamber of secrets scene i think Bonnie was actually on screen for less a combined total of a minute in PS/SS, PoA and GoF and she would have had 5 or 6 lines at most in those movies. A recast could have easily been done when the movie makers realised that Ginny was going to play a bigger role OotP onwards and that Bonnie wasn't up to the job.

True, but maybe it's because I'm a stickler about these things, but I wouldn't like a recast. But at the same time, I'd agree that Bonnie didn't do Ginny justice in the later movies.

[GingerCat1]

Originally Posted by magic_is_might

True, but maybe it's because I'm a stickler about these things, but I wouldn't like a recast. But at the same time, I'd agree that Bonnie didn't do Ginny justice in the later movies.

Of course recasting doesn't always work as the recast Lavender and i think they got the casting decision completely wrong as i always got the impression that Lavender was supposed to be really good looking (hence one of the reasons why Hermione was so threatened by Lavender's 'relationship' with Ron).