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Re: Things that bothered you about the final film
As far as i'm concerned, this movie was the best out of the franchise, and i'm not just saying that because it's the last film - i genuinely loved it.
However, like all good movies there are flaws. Most of them are due to moments in the book either being changed or left out, but i understand that changes need to be made to make the film more visually stunning, or because of time constraints. 1) McGonagall's 'i've always wanted to use that spell' line. It's a great comedic moment for the cinema audience when they watch it for the first time. But after watching the film ten times more, that line just loses the humour, and to me it just seemed like a moment purely written for a laugh from the audience. For me it didn't add anything to the scene and seemed a weird thing for McGonagall to say when they're in the middle of defending the castle from Voldemort. Plus, her character just wouldn't say that. Ever. Maggie Smith says the line brilliantly, but i really felt it didn't need to be there, particularly against the 'statues' music which didn't seem to mix well with the joke. 2) Snapping the Elder Wand. Okay, so Rowling neither confirms nor denies whether the wand is unbreakable, but it's the most powerful wand in the world (or at least to its master). I'm pretty sure an unbeatable wand can't just be snapped like a twig. 3) Which leads me to the next problem. Movie Harry's now stuffed if he wants to fix his old wand. That was the only thing that really annoyed me in the film. The other problems i could live with. but it really bothered me that Harry's wand wasn't fixed. 4) Fred's death. I already knew how the film was going to depict his death from reviews, but i still couldn't help feeling a tad disappointed when i actually saw it. it was important to me that we actually saw his death, rather than a Death Eater disarming him. This is a war, people are going to die, it's unavoidable and the film really needed to get that across. War is a terrible thing and killing loved characters is a way of showing that. The worst thing was, the witch had actually stopped to hear what Voldemort was saying and you could see Fred actually reaching for his wand whilst she was distracted! It could have worked if he had looked properly defeated. However the mourning scene was perfect and Rupert's acting had me tearing up. 5) Ron/Hermione kiss. Okay, i'm gonna have to say it didn't do it for me. It was nothing to do with the acting, but more to do with the fact Rupert's head was blocking the entire thing. Don't get me wrong, Rupert has a lovely head, but now was probably not the best time to show it. I loved their reactions, loved that they both went for each other at the same time, loved the giggle at the end, but i just wanted to see their lips meet! 6) Lack of reaction to Harry's death. This was the only time when i thought the acting wasn't amazing. Neither Ron or Hermione looked very upset when they saw Harry's body and i was expecting angry outbursts, cries of despair, tears. I really wanted to hear McGonagall's "No!" and Ron's "He beat you!" line and was rather sad that neither addition had been added. 7) Aberforth beckoning the trio inside the pub. Okay, this has nothing to do with the film, it's just a personal irritation of mine. The trio are running from the Death Eaters, someone whispers "Potter, in here!" and they just walk into the place?! For all they knew that could have been a Death Eater posing as a concerned citizen! It could have been better if Harry used 'lumos' to check who the stranger was, before blindly walking into his house. 7) "Let's finish this the way we started - together." Need i say more? 8) Last shot of the epilogue. Absolutely stunning. Loved the music, loved the aging make up, but why oh why was Rupert once again stuck at the back, nearly out of frame, whilst Emma and Dan were to centre frame? I think the camera was trying to do a centre shot of just Harry, but because Emma was standing so close to Dan, they were both in the middle, with Rupert to the far left. I think it would have been nicer to have all three in the middle.
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Re: Things that bothered you about the final film
There are some small things that bothered me, but I can overlook those. The one thing that really bothered me is the same thing that bothered many people. Why did Harry have to pull Voldemort of the cliff? Also, I was not a big fan of how Bellatrix and Voldemort kind of turned into confetti when they died.
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Doesn't this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eichenbach.jpg look a bit similar to this http://images.wikia.com/harrypotter/...rryTomFall.JPG to anyone else? I think they were going for some iconic shorthand of "I don't care if I go as long as I get rid of you!" Which Harry did feel, but I think Harry's iconic enough to get his own clear scene, not a copy. As to Luna, this was jarring, but she did have the time the trio was at Gringotts. She could have gotten some movie-verse equivalent of a DA coin message and apparated there or something. Cho I think has always been treated in the movies as a classmate, not a year older.
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One of the things that was really minor (but that I kinda wanted to see badly) in the movie was more of the Carrows. I know they weren't a big deal, but I was excited to see how they would play out in the final film. When they were barely shown for a second, I was not too happy about that.
Alright...why was Cho there. She should have been long gone. Final thing, WHY BREAK THE WAND. He needed to go back to Dumbledore's office and repair his own wand! Then he hid the wand. I think they might have broken the wand as the sort of "symbol" that the movies were officially over, but still. Not true to the book which I did not like. And that part, was really important. Also, THAT WAS NOT HOW NAGINI DIED. Everyone was around when Neville cut off her head! And after he did, then Harry showed that he was alive. No, the snake did not turn into a puff of black smoke. Her head actually rolled around on the ground after Neville cut if off. Everyone should have seen his epicness. While the kiss between Ron and Hermione was very cute, it was in the wrong moment. And without Harry as a witness.
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Re: Things that bothered you about the final film
Nagini did not die in the great hall in the book. She died outside the great hall which is where Harry came back alive and then all of the good guys retreated into the great hall.
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I've seen it 4 times...
1) snape's death is soooo violent! :'( 2) Harry and Voldemort's last battle... NO ONE is there to watch it... and when it's over... no one is like 'yay! you defeated him!" 3) that ugly looking thing under the bench at kings cross station .. 4) Voldemort just.... crumbled away... not like in the book. 5) harry should have fixed his own wand like he did in the book..
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The most disappointing thing was definitely the final battle and how it wasn't in front of everyone and how there was not nearly enough excitement/congratulation afterwards. I was hoping for some epic moment where the crowd just roars and descends on Harry with congrats. Oh well. And I think when Voldy's wand flew up the green flash should have still been coming out when Harry caught it to point it back. And yeah the way Voldy and Bellatrix kind of exploded into flakes was just weird.
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Well, I put that down as to "not much choice, is there?" The thing I thought was a bit weird was that when they came to the locked gate, Hermione didn't take out her wand and try Alohamora or something. Instead, she just stood there, stymied.
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It would have been better if instead of Bill and Fleur, Tonks and Lupin were at the cottage. It would have made their deaths more significant to the viewer.
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I wish in the end scene, when Harry and his son Albus are talking, that Harry completed the sentence from the book. In the movie he explains to his son that the sorting hat puts into account your choice of house. In the book he not only tells him this but tells him "something he's never told his other children" that the sorting hat let HIM choose. Instead of just saying, "Really." he should have said, "Really. It did for me."
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But then Dobby wouldn't have been buried at Shell Cottage. And I think there would have been a huge uproar if Dobby's death/burial had been messed up! (Although I do think the actor who plays Bill is a bit awkward for one of Ron's "cool older brothers")
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A small thing that bothered me a little is the age make-up in the epilogue. Apart from being pretty bad quality it was also very uneven. They were pretty unkind to guys, particuarly Ron and Draco, who not only look way older than mid-30s but also really "wasted" (like they're sick, or alcoholics or something). Hermione and Ginny on the other hand simply got a more "adult" styiling, but no wrinkles or extra weight (even though they've both given birth). Not a huge issue, obviously, but it kinda bugs me.
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I didn't like that Bellatrix and Nagini transform into ashes when they die. I can't remember what happens in the books (I need a re-read), I can understand that maybe Nagini did that because she is an horcrux but why Bellatrix? Did the producers like the effect too much?
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Re: Things that bothered you about the final film
FRED'S NON-DEATH. Or any other person's death in any of the films for that matter. But yeah, Fred's Tonks' & Lupin's.
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One thing that really bothered me was Harry - Voldy jump from the cliff and the face merging thing. That was too much Hollywood and really creepy, why would Harry touch Voldemort?
Extended final duel - fine, I can live with that but not that jump. I can even understand why they made Voldemort explode into pieces, he was so inhuman. The curse that Molly used on Bellatrix turned her into stone, she went rigid. And then Molly blasted that stone into pieces. That's how I saw it. There were other minor things that bothered me and I wish they made the movie 20 mins longer and explained: Dumbledore's backstory, the fact why Harry didn't die in Forest, show Harry repair his phoenix wand; and include bit of Snape's worst memory in TPT.
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Might have already been said, but I really didn't like Snape's memory scene. It all was really fast and garbled and didn't really show us much. If you didn't read the book, all you see is apparently Snape knew Lily somewhat before school, then is just sort of awkwardly around her a bit during Hogwarts, apparently loved her and she died. There is no substance that lets us know that Snape and Lily were actually friends, and it just sort of cheapens Snape's character.
I also, like so many else, feel that they cheated Neville out of his kill. Nagini's death was just plain anticlimactic. Also, when Voldemort screams Avada Kadavra to kill Harry.... What? Did he have a yawn stuck in his throat, in the middle of a sneeze whilst trying to hack up the frog in there? I had the hardest time keeping my laughter in check at that scene. Lastly, Hagrid. Oh, the poor loveable half-giant gets maybe two-three lines in the entire movie, which mainly consist of him yelling something like, "Harry? Why are you here? No!" and "Good job and Good bye." This is the last movie with him! I just didn't like how they shafted him and he got so little screen time... Harry started his adventure with Hagrid, it should have ended with something more.
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Re: Things that bothered you about the final film
After reading some pages, I came to conclusion that probably Lavender Brown really died. I remember when Sirius died, everyone was sure he would come back, because it's weird that someone dies after falling through a veil... so in the movies he received an avada kedavra + veil combo, I think Rowling told them to do it so the rumours about Sirius' comeback would stop. We don't know what happens to Lavender in the book, and in the movie we see Trelawney and Parvati covering her with a blanket, why from all dead people scenes that appear in the book do they show that?. Maybe Rowling wanted to clarify that point... (RIP Lavender
)And about the rest, if it wasn't for Snape's violent death (it even hurt me lol) I'd think they only show dead people 0.5 seconds because there are kids watching. So I don't know...
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