Things that bothered you about the final film

[Saloca]

Lack of Teddy and Neville in the epilogue! They were the only things I liked about the epilogue in the first place!

[arthur126]

Dunno why but Hermione and Ron being there when Snape snuffed it kind of bothered me a bit. It just seemed like it should have been a personal moment between Snape and Harry.

[MrSleepyHead]

Originally Posted by Saloca

Lack of Teddy and Neville in the epilogue! They were the only things I liked about the epilogue in the first place!

In a way, I am relieved Teddy was not in the epilogue. His existence in the films was close to nonexistent. Unlike the book, we have no mention of his birth, no celebration, and no photographs. Instead, all we hear is a quick mention of Lupin's son in The Forest Again. I found this an aggravating and meaningless passage in the film, as opposed to the character that was actually developed in the book. If Teddy appeared in the epilogue, I think it would have been confusing and distracting. Referencing Neville as Herbology teacher would simply distract the viewer, too, I think. Though I do think the epilogue lacked substance with the child characters. I was looking forward to seeing James on screen, but he was a negligible part of that scene.

Originally Posted by arthur126

Dunno why but Hermione and Ron being there when Snape snuffed it kind of bothered me a bit. It just seemed like it should have been a personal moment between Snape and Harry.

But this is true in the book as well. Both Ron and Hermione are with Harry as Harry goes towards Snape's dying body. Hermione is the one that produces a vial for Snape's memories with a wave of her wand.

I think one of the magical parts of that scene, as it is written, is that we almost forget about Ron and Hermione's presence when Harry and Snape are so close. But I also felt this exclusivity in the film. As Snape shed his memories in tears and expressed his dying words, only Snape and Harry mattered. I think the film did an excellent job of capturing the sincerity of that moment.

[arthur126]

Originally Posted by MrSleepyHead

But this is true in the book as well. Both Ron and Hermione are with Harry as Harry goes towards Snape's dying body. Hermione is the one that produces a vial for Snape's memories with a wave of her wand.

I think one of the magical parts of that scene, as it is written, is that we almost forget about Ron and Hermione's presence when Harry and Snape are so close. But I also felt this exclusivity in the film. As Snape shed his memories in tears and expressed his dying words, only Snape and Harry mattered. I think the film did an excellent job of capturing the sincerity of that moment.

Oh really? i always remember it being just harry for some reason. I haven't read the book in ages, so my memory must be pretty bad. I think i need to start reading them again.

[agilefalcon16]

Originally Posted by PoisonusIvy

1. Lily's eyes being brown. It was just mentioned by Snape that Harry had his mother's eyes, plus it's something we have heard through the entire series. Then they zoom in on this little girl's clearly brown eyes. It was just one of those little things that irked me.

I agree. And this bugged me as well. I mean, it wasn't one of those deals where only the people that had read the books would have noticed (as was the case with the Harry/Voldemort fight scene, the location of Snape's death, Nagini, etc); casual movie goers would have noticed as well. Snape had just told Harry 10 minutes before this that he had his mothers eyes, yet when they actually show Lily, she has brown eyes, not blue.

Aside from that though, I was a little put-off by the kissing scene between Ron and Hermione in the Chamber. I've read all the books, and I know full well that Ron marries Hermione in the end. But having also watched all the films, where in most of them the two characters act like siblings (with all the bickering, etc), the kiss kinda... disturbed me a little bit. I know that a lot of people liked the kiss, but this is just my view of it.

[MCDahB]

Could they really not be bothered to do an extra 5-10 seconds worth of CGI to show Kreacher and the other house elves entering the battle. House elves are way cooler than stone knights.

[TabbyCat1]

Okay, Cho was in the seventh book. I read the part with her. But why was she back? 99.9% sure she was a year ahead of Harry.

[SiriusBlack101]

Originally Posted by TabbyCat1

Okay, Cho was in the seventh book. I read the part with her. But why was she back? 99.9% sure she was a year ahead of Harry.

She was a year of Harry in the books. However, she only came back to Hogwarts when Neville summoned the old crowd from Dumbledore's Army using those ingenious galleons Hermione charmed.

[rosieechan]

Originally Posted by Warlock27

Hermione saying "I'll go with you" while Ron just stands and says nothing. They should have both said they'll go with Harry. But no, in the movies only Hermione is allowed to be Harry's best friend.

Looks like Kloves once again screwed over the equality the trio was meant to have.

This. So much.
Trio love is ALWAYS missed out in the movies. It's saddening. D<

[Pottermore]

Originally Posted by rosieechan

This. So much.
Trio love is ALWAYS missed out in the movies. It's saddening. D<

Yep I agree, that really struck me when Ron just stands there when Hermione tells Harry she'll go with him.
I imagined Ron and Hermione would both be crying-ish and Hermione crying into Ron's shoulder while he comforts her.
Something around those lines...

[decarus]

Originally Posted by TabbyCat1

Okay, Cho was in the seventh book. I read the part with her. But why was she back? 99.9% sure she was a year ahead of Harry.

Cho was a year ahead in the books, but she is the same year as the trio in the films. It is a difference and really not that big of a deal i think.

[StaceysChain]

Quite a few things bothered me about this film. Before seeing Deathly Hallows part 2, I watched the B-roll footage that Warner Bros released. Normally these things don't affect my viewings of the film at all, but in this case it was a huge mistake (and I know, it's my fault for watching them anyway). This will be a long personal rant, so I apologise!

Voldemort's "victory" speech and Neville's stand-up - this is my main gripe beacause:

1) It was such a chilling moment in the book and unfortunately I felt it was comical and cringe-worthy in the film. Yates and Fiennes probably wanted Voldemort to have a child-like sadistic happy feeling because he thought he'd finally killed Harry once and for all, but in the end Voldemort felt like a Disney villain (that laugh was just ugh) - the only chilling lines from him was "And now is the time to declare yourself!" and "Come forward and join us or die!" A real shame since Ralph Fiennes is a fantastic actor and I love his portrayal of Voldemort.

2) The hug! That was totally out of character! Ok it probably worked brilliantly on the script because it empathises that Voldemort knows nothing of love, doesn't have a clue how to give a hug and to give the Hogwarts defenders false ideas that his side was the right one. But it just did not work at all on screen. I couldn't help but cringe at it, while other people found it funny.

3) The fact that a lot of Voldemort's lines were cut. In the B-roll, there was this line:

So do not cry for that! [Harry] He's not worthy of your tears! None of you were ever in his heart! Not for one, single, solitary beat!

This line could've saved that scene. It was frightening and totally in Voldemort's character, lying about Harry's courage. It also made Neville's later line about "Harry's heart" make sense. There was also the fact that they cut Ron responsing with the word liar. This (like the book) showed that Ron was no longer afraid of Voldemort and had the courage stand up to him.

All in all this scene had massive potenial to be one of the best scenes in the film, but beacuse of the choices made, it sadly became one of the worst scenes in my honest opinion. Matthew Lewis was outstanding in this scene though.

Molly vs Bellatrix - Even Mrs Weasley's epic line could not save this scene for me. It was totally rushed and badly edited. And Bellatrix exploding? Ok I'll admit Voldemort and Nagini disintegrating were brilliant IMO, because the film makers had good enough reasons to make them disappear (Voldemort's body and soul being inhuman and mangled and Nagini being a horcrux) and the camera work was beautiful, but with Bellatrix it felt like they had made the movie purely for 3D effects.

The battle itself. Almost all the cast and crew said the battle was going to be "huge". Where was it? Ok I respect the fact that they were telling Harry's story but unlike the book where the battle was just in the background, the film could've easily shown more of the characters fighting. They could've shown more of the statues fighting the giants, they could've shown the teachers and students vs the Death Eaters, more of Bellatrix vs Molly and maybe have a scene where Seamus has trouble planting the charges on the bridge and the rest of Dumbledore's army has to defend him. I'm sure most of these scenes were filmed, but cut for stupid reasons.

Harry vs Voldemort. Ok I'll admit it. I liked the film version way more than the book. I liked the fact that Voldemort got physical with Harry, I liked the cinematography when they flew around the castle and I liked the fact their battle was more personal, but again too much was cut! I couldn't wait for the "Why do you live?" scene! It could've made a huge difference, but Yates cut that because Voldemort "would just kill Harry instead of talking with him." While Yates does have a point, I think it was a silly reason. What about the scene in Goblet of Fire where he "talks" to him when he's tied up. What about Order of the Phoenix where he tries to goad Harry into torturing Bellatrix? He's clearly "talked" to him there, not tried to kill him straight away. There was also another cut scene in the B-Rolls where Voldemort was taunting Harry, and it wouldn't have hurt to have Harry to reveal Snape's true loyalties would it? Or to ask for Riddle to feel remorse? As I said, I liked the final battle, but it felt like Yates and Day had just stitched some random scenes together, I think it would've been a lot more epic if it had the scenes mentioned above.

My last but minor gripe is Harry not mending his wand at the end.

Also, why are so many non reader fans coming away from the film saying Snape is Harry's real father? Have I missed something? Because I thought The Prince's Tale did a splendid job explaining Snape's love for Lily and the previous films have made it clear that James IS Harry's father.

[MerryLore]

Originally Posted by agilefalcon16

Snape had just told Harry 10 minutes before this that he had his mothers eyes, yet when they actually show Lily, she has brown eyes, not blue.

The actress playing Lily Potter has brown eyes. Daniel Radcliffe has blue eyes. Lily Potter and Harry Potter have green eyes.

The movies have a challenge keeping it straight. Very annoying, since Harry's eyes are mentioned so much!

[jtmuk]

When did Hermione learn to fly a broom so well.She would have made a dam good quiditch player. lol

[1BellaLestrange]

What really bothered me was how cheerful everyone was after the war/fight was over in DH2.

[HuskyCrown]

The only thing i was bugged about: no cheering after harry defeated voldemort. everything else was a perfectly acceptable change IMO, except that one. Cho smiles at harry, but ginny just looked dead...

[Abdel]

One thing that was a little off-putting to me was Harry's reaction when first seeing Ginny. That blank, tired expression, completely void of any emotion. Don't know what they were trying to say with that.

[Noldus]

Originally Posted by Abdel

One thing that was a little off-putting to me was Harry's reaction when first seeing Ginny. That blank, tired expression, completely void of any emotion. Don't know what they were trying to say with that.

Harry and Ginny never worked for me in the films, partly due to their lack of chemistry on screen. Harry literally looked petrified here.

[Abdel]

Exactly. To me, that face looked like he was thinking "Man, I just realized I've been doing this for the last ten years. And yes, I actually tend to get tired of it".

[Warlock27]

They haven't exactly been portrayed in the most convincing way by the filmmakers either. The only conversation that was ever written for them in the DH1 script was cut.

And aside from that kiss in DH2, which was actually Daniel Radcliffe's idea, there really wasn't that much indication that they even fancied each other.