Things that bothered you about the final film

[snapes_witch]

Originally Posted by Noldus

Harry and Ginny never worked for me in the films, partly due to their lack of chemistry on screen. Harry literally looked petrified here.

Hard to tell whether it was poor directing from Yates, poor chemistry between Bonnie and Dan, or both.

[DocBot]

*The younger students not being evacuated, and simply being left to run around screaming and panicking while Death Eaters attack.
*Professor Sprout doesn't do anything, in the book she, Neville, and Peeves sicced hordes of plants on the Death Eaters.
*No Grawp, Kreacher, Buckbeak, Thestrals, or no mention of Teddy Lupin.
*The Percy subplot was entirely dropped in the films.
*Slughorn doesn't return with reinforcements after seemingly leaving as a coward. Granted, this makes him more admirable that he's helping defend the castle (though he had to take a drink before, lol), but it leaves our guys screwed without reinforcements, and showing that Slytherin is playing its part in defeating Voldemort.
*Dumbledore's backstory is bleached away as said in a report once, and in King's Cross he's suddenly this saint who did no wrong. In the book he actually broke down over his past mistakes with Grindelwald and the Hallows.
*Harry being a smartass to Ollivander. "You're lying."
*The Voldemort tsunami in the Chamber of Secrets chases Ron and Hermione for only half the tunnel? Weird, but I guess not too bad.
*We never see McGonagall in battle, just summoning statues (though that was my favorite part of the whole movie) and looking worried. Granted, good old Maggie Smith is getting on in years, so I'll give them that one.
*Hagrid is randomly captured by Voldemort and only has three scenes, and less then five lines. If they had shown he, Grawp, and Fang had arrived to help fight like in the book, and later in the courtyard battle he was carried off by the Acromantulas, I would be better. Just show some sort of explanation as to how Hagrid is randomly captured.
*Seamus remarks he hopes Neville hasn't brought more of Aberforth's cooking. When in the book, Aberforth was the only one feeding them and keeping them alive.
*It was never established that it was Dumbledore's Army in the Room of Requirement, just a bunch of students chilling there. And suddenly all these kids who are wanted by the Carrows, especially Neville, show up in the Great Hall when Snape summons them. Ginny in particular. And Luna was just at Shell Cottage, wth?
*I cringed that the Imperius Curse was basically drugs for poor Bogrod.
*No one around to witness Voldemort's death, and it would be better if his body still remained like a regular corpse like in the book. No one to congratulate Harry. I get that they're recuperating and all, but come on. No one is happy, no one excited that they killed the Osama bin Laden of the Wizarding World. They might as well be all resting after a midnight premiere themselves.
*This is a minor nitpick, but Albus Severus is blonde with a Bieber cut. It's not the hairstyle, but it's the color of the hair, and the eyes. He is supposed to be a spitting image of eleven year old Harry and the only one who inherited Lily's eyes, not a Bieber wannabe. No offense to Bieber fans, but really now?

I get that they can't convert every single thing from the book to the movie, but that's why they got two movies to do one book. I don't mind if the dialogue isn't the same as the book. But really, the book had a much better climax then the movie did.

But, at the end of the day it was a damn good movie. Best Picture material? Perhaps. But it was a damn good ending.

[LiteraryWitch]

Here's my list:

1. Percy randomly showing up out of nowhere in the background of a scene. I wish we could've seen the reunion.

2. The old teachers also randomly appearing and not even doing anything. It was like one shot, and done.

3. Hagrid was almost non-exsistent.

4. Harry and Voldemort's final battle. Especially the falling off the tower.

5. The way the Malfoy's left. It made them seem like cowards.

6. Young Lily not having green eyes.

That's all I can think of for now. Don't get me wrong though, I did really enjoy the movie.

[BrianTung]

Originally Posted by 1BellaLestrange

What really bothered me was how cheerful everyone was after the war/fight was over in DH2.

Originally Posted by HuskyCrown

The only thing i was bugged about: no cheering after harry defeated voldemort. everything else was a perfectly acceptable change IMO, except that one. Cho smiles at harry, but ginny just looked dead...

These two, one right after the other, was kind of amusing. Personally, I'm with HuskyCrown; I was kind of looking forward to a massive celebration scene. To me, the rising Voldemort ashes thing, especially with the soft singing in the background, made it feel a bit too LOTR-ish.

[Bucc]

Originally Posted by Abdel

Exactly. To me, that face looked like he was thinking "Man, I just realized I've been doing this for the last ten years. And yes, I actually tend to get tired of it".

Or perhaps Radcliffe just likes to keep the stoic/serious face on no matter what the scene called for.

[BrianTung]

Originally Posted by DocBot

*Dumbledore's backstory is bleached away as said in a report once, and in King's Cross he's suddenly this saint who did no wrong. In the book he actually broke down over his past mistakes with Grindelwald and the Hallows.

The films have dramatically reduced the sparring between characters "on the good side." Ginny and Hermione's spat over Quidditch, Luna and Hermione's spat over Hermione's stolid lack of overimagination, even Harry's growing resentment of Dumbledore's secretiveness--all these were eliminated in the films. Eliminating the last of these meant that Dumbledore's contrition in the King's Cross scene probably wouldn't happen either, and sure enough, it didn't.

[Warlock27]

Which explains why they made Snape look so innocent and misunderstood, so that James came off as just some jerk who stole his girl.

Never mind that Snape was a death eater or that he called Lily a mudblood.

[hemiola]

-Harry and Voldemort's flight. Besides being pointless, the way they kept zooming in on their faces creeped me out.

-Neville's speech. All three times I've seen DH2, I've rolled my eyes. Book-Voldy would have fried Neville in a second. Speaking of relating to the book, I was really hoping for Neville getting the sorting hat shoved on his head.

-Neville being gangsta with the snatchers on the covered bridge. Um. Yeah.

-The whole deletion of Dumbledore's past. I understand it's not the most important thing, but I think a little more explanation would have been nice.

-And in general...I still find Voldemort kind of hysterical. The way he roars Avada Kedavra and the way he yelps in pain after the Horcrux destruction (which he shouldn't have felt?) just put me in stitches.

[eliza101]

Originally Posted by Warlock27

Which explains why they made Snape look so innocent and misunderstood, so that James came off as just some jerk who stole his girl.

Never mind that Snape was a death eater or that he called Lily a mudblood.

They cut every single scene where Snape acted like a bully in the classroom and the fact that yes, he was a DE and yes he actually called Lily that 'disgusting' word. As for Harry's line about him being 'The bravest man.', was it so hard to have that all important and qualifying word 'probably' kept in the line.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted by snapes_witch

Hard to tell whether it was poor directing from Yates, poor chemistry between Bonnie and Dan, or both.

I think it had more to do with the lack of chemistry between Dan and Bonnie. Those two had no spark whatsoever. Even my boyfriend noticed.

I cringed that the Imperius Curse was basically drugs for poor Bogrod.

I thought it was hilarious and always pictured the Imperius curse working a bit like that.

[lord_moldywort]

They made Snape seem far too nice in the movie. They also failed to mention just about everything about Dumbledore's past which really annoyed me.

[Fally]

I agree with one of the points DocBot made its been bugging me for a while.
Arent they suppose to be in the room of requirement so they can get away from the carrows and snape so why were they suddendly in the great hall when snape summoned them. Doesnt it just make that whole room of requirement hide out pointless. Neville also mentions they still go to class yet Seamus complains about Aboforths cooking so if they are still going to class and are able to go to the great hall for snapes summoning then why cant they go and eat in the great hall. (they cant be that wanted if there still going to class and going to snapes summoning) I might have got all of this a little wrong and confused but doesnt it seem like a major controdiction

[Potion]

Everyone of James' old friends always said that Harry was so alike his father. The thing is, James in the Prince's Tale was ginger, he didn't have a single trace of brown hair whatsoever, let alone jet black. He could have been young Arthur Weasley.

[magnolia7]

The length! It felt too short for me, even if it was only two hours and ten minutes. That's wayy too short for Potter movies.

[FluffyHedwig]

So overall I thought the movie was fantastic, but there were a few things that irked me.

Listed in order of things that irritated me the most to things that irritated me the least:

I. Blatant deviations/inconsistencies/changes from the books that I hated:

1. HARRY NOT REPAIRING HIS OWN WAND. I'm really surprised that this was only a minor irritation for most people on the thread. When movie-Harry snapped the elder wand and didn't fix the phoenix feather wand I kind of wanted to scream at him/Yates. Harry repairing his own wand before putting the elder wand back with Dumbledore was a detail of the book that I really loved and that made a lot of sense- Harry is really attached with his wand after all that he's been through with it, and it seems logical that he'd try all that he can to fix it- I just can't overlook Yates not putting that in. And now movie-Harry is stuck using Draco Malfoy's old wand.

2. To quote someone's picture on this thread that I saw...that awkward moment when you don't have your mother's eyes. Nuff said. Hopefully they can edit her eye color on the computer before releasing the DVD. The child James not really looking like Dan Radcliffe didn't really annoy me that much b/c flashbacks in the previous movies also didn't do a very good job/showed a James Potter with lighter colored hair.

3. They changed the layout of Hogwarts. AGAIN. They've done this multiple times throughout all the movies and it never fails to irritate me.

II. Omissions:

Omissions don't annoy me as much, because as someone whose read all of the books multiple times until the spine starts to break, I can do a sort of fill in the blank with missing explanations. But there were a few big things they missed which they really shouldn't have:

1. Why Harry survives Voldie AK'ing him in the woods. There was 0 explanation about how the fact that Voldemort took Harry's blood in GoF meant that his mother's protection lived on in Voldemort's veins, "tethering him to life". Now I know this and most of the people on this thread probably know this, but to any moviegoer that hadn't read that books it was a big *** moment.

2. Wasn't a big thing for me, but I would've liked some more dialogue in the Harry/Voldemort final battle.

3. Would've liked more scenes from the battle of Hogwarts, like Trelawney launching crystal balls off of towers of the castle, etc.

4. Was really looking forward to seeing the Ravenclaw common room.

III. Random things that I didn't really mind but I thought were kind of weird/mildly annoying:

1. Voldemort exploding into confetti. Also, eww.....basically Voldemort skin flakes snowed down on Hogwarts. (But the bellatrix thing wasn't an issue for me, because to me it looked like Molly used petrificus totalus on her and then hit her with another spell that shattered her then stone like body into pieces. With voldie he should've just died the way AK always kills people)

2. Ron standing off to the side while Hermione is hysterical and hugging Harry after he tells them he has to die.

3. Why was presenting bellatrix's wand to the goblin at gringotts an issue...they had it 5 seconds before at shell cottage when they had ollivader check it out..

4. The Harry/Voldie face melding thing when they jumped off Hogwarts was kind of weird.

IV. Additions/Deviations that I didn't mind

1. The final battle between Harry and Voldemort: I'll admit it, on the whole, I liked the movie version a lot better. While I think that they should've included more of the dialogue between them from the book, I thought that this was a overall a lot more exciting than just the two of them pacing around in a circle where harry goes into the good guy version of the "Here's how I did it" monologue.

2. Some people mentioned that they thought that the bits of comic relief were out of place, but I really loved most of it. McGonagall's lines were the best- I especially loved her reference to Seamus' "history with pyrotechnics".

3. The Draco/Voldie hug was great. People said it was weird/disturbing/awkward but that's exactly what it was supposed to be. Malfoy's look of disgust on his face during the awkward hug was perfect and fitting. Also, to the people that complained about how the Malfoy's leaving made the look like cowards a) They kind of are, and b) In the books it talks about how Narcissa and Lucius don't care about fighting for voldemort anymore and just want thier son safely back. I thought them leaving portrayed this nicely.

That's all I can think of for now. But overall, I thought the movie was really well done and was one of the better films

[franckolat]

1.
The clumsy beginning. On that point, Part 2 should've taken advice from Part 1, which had prodigiously dark, sad, epic and in-your-face opening scenes. It doesn't help that Lily's theme is too quiet and not nearly as haunting as I'd like it to be.

2.
Hermione : She died very young, didn't she?
Aberforth : My brother sacrificed many things, Mr. Potter.

3.
Dean Thomas following Kingsley with a smile of admiration on his face - this shameless black ghettoization seems infuriating to me. I wonder what the black audience thinks about it.

4.
The use of "Leaving Hogwarts" in the epilogue. Not that I'm against it, but it sounds as if they patched it on the scene without emotional synchronization. I think it starts way too early and it doesn't try to react with the editing in a touching manner (like, for example, Courtyard Apocalypse and Dumbledore's Farewell earlier in the film). There's even a problem with its mixing: the bass buries the melody.

6.
The lack of exciting action choreography. The battle of Hogwarts sure looks handsome, but it's not engaging enough. Many action movies tend to suffer from having no great interest other than their fighting sequences (Lord of the Rings, Avatar), but some films in the past have shown some amazing battles without overshadowing their characters' storyline (Spider-Man 2). Despite all its potential, Deathly Hallows Part 2 falls short of entering that pantheon. What a pity!

7.
Harry and Ron's absence of bromance. Don't blame Hermione for their own machism.

8.
The often too careful and self-serious voice acting, especially from Dan. "The sword presented itself to us in a moment of neeeed. (conscientious pause) We didn't stRRReeRRl iRRt." Lines sound as if David Yates planned everyone's vocal inflexions and flow.

Originally Posted by FluffyHedwig

3. Why was presenting bellatrix's wand to the goblin at gringotts an issue...they had it 5 seconds before at shell cottage when they had ollivader check it out..

We don't know whether this is a mistake by the filmmakers or just Hermione's cleverness - Bellatrix must have told Gringotts that her wand has been stolen. That nearly made their plan fail in the book.

[ajna]

Originally Posted by LiteraryWitch

Here's my list:


5. The way the Malfoy's left. It made them seem like cowards.

Uhmmmm, well, they were.

[Warlock27]

I'm probably one of the few people who really didn't like Snape holding Lily. She never would have been killed if he hadn't spied for Voldemort and reported the prophecy. He as a good as killed her.

I'm sorry, but no matter how the movies try to spin it I have no sympathy for Snape. He has no right to even touch her. And the fact that he just ignores Harry just makes it worse.

[snugglepot]

Originally Posted by Warlock27

I'm probably one of the few people who really didn't like Snape holding Lily. She never would have been killed if he hadn't spied for Voldemort and reported the prophecy. He as a good as killed her.

I'm sorry, but no matter how the movies try to spin it I have no sympathy for Snape. He has no right to even touch her. And the fact that he just ignores Harry just makes it worse.

I feel the same way! Plus, the mother in me hated him for focusing on dead Lily and ignoring poor little baby Harry crying his little heart out! To me that was typical of Snape's attitude in life and made me detest him even more! Lily was dead, it was her poor traumatised baby son who needed holding at that moment!

[Slartibartfast]

I'm probably one of the few people who really didn't like Snape holding Lily. She never would have been killed if he hadn't spied for Voldemort and reported the prophecy. He as a good as killed her.

Actually, that was sort of the point. However, the films never really went into the fact that Snape was the one who gave Voldy the prophecy.