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Old July 2nd, 2003, 5:05 pm
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I think that Dumbledore's trust of Snape is just that; Trust. I don't think it's any form of magic or test or anything. I think that Dumbledore is just relying on his basic human feelings, which seem to be the strongest of magicks (Lily's love for Harry saved him from an unblockable curse).


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Old July 2nd, 2003, 5:35 pm
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Yeah i understand that Dumbledore would not, but Crouch did not seem like the type who would say well Dumbledore if you trust him we will let him go. They had to do something to convince Crouch that Snape had truly switched sides, if he didn't Crouch would have tossed him to the Dementors. what evidence did Dumbledore present


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Old July 2nd, 2003, 5:49 pm
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I think the reason Dumbledore trusts Snape has something to do with Snape telling Dumbledore that Voldemort was going after the Potters. In GoF, (page 590, American edition) when Karkaroff says Snape is a death eater, Dumbledore says, "I have given evidence already on this matter. Severus Snape was indeed a Death Eater. However, he rejoined our side before Lord Voldemort's downfall and turned spy for us, at great personal risk. He is now no more a Death Eater than I am."

I think the fact that Snape informed them of Voldemort's plans, trying to keep the Potters (who he hated) safe was good enough for Dumbledore.


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Old July 3rd, 2003, 3:00 am
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I believe, we will find out, that Snape did something very heroic to earn Dumbledor's trust. Rowling is continuingly making us curious about Snape. We still do not know, what kind mission was given to him at the end of GoF. We will be told, of course. And we will learn why exactly Dumledore trusts Snape.


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Old July 3rd, 2003, 3:11 am
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I agree with the idea that Snape is the one who told DUmbledore that Voldmort was after the Potters. It would make a lot of sense. Because if truth be told, I don't think Snape would ahve minded much to ahve James dead. If he indirectly tried to save the Potters Dumbledore could easily trust him.


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Old July 3rd, 2003, 3:18 am
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I thought it was quite obvious throughout the book that he returned to Voldemort. He told harry in occlumancy lessons that it was his job to spy on Voldemort.


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Old July 3rd, 2003, 6:36 am
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I've merged Gandalf the White's most recent thread pondering Snape and Dumbledore into this already existing thread.

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Old July 3rd, 2003, 7:52 am
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I think Snape can be trusted....I think Dumbledore doesn't let him have the DADA job to serve as a reminder of his past mistakes.


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Old July 3rd, 2003, 8:02 am
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if dumbledore isn't worried, then none of us should be. the reason shall be answered within the upcomming books. dumbledore is an extremly wise man and when he puts his trust into someone, he's willing to back them up 500%


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Old July 3rd, 2003, 7:26 pm
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jk in that interview said(quoting):when Professor Dumbledore took Professor Snape onto the staff and Professor Snape said he'd like to teach Defence Against the Dark Arts please and Professor Dumbledore felt that it might bring out the worst in Professor Snape, so Dumbledore said: "I think we'll let you teach potions and see how you get along there
well more will be of course in the books...


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Old July 19th, 2003, 5:52 pm
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Can Severus really be trusted?

Something that caught my eye when reading the order of the Pheonix the second time round was a sentence (forgive me for being too lazy to go and get the book) that goes something like
'You are on probation. I am surprised at you Severus, Lucius Malfoy always speaks very highly of you.' - Dolores Umbridge
If Snape had gone back to the 'good' side before Voldemorts downfall, then surely Lucius Malfoy would be very angry with Snape and not speak highly of him?
The only explanation i can think of is that Lucius beleives Snape is still working for Voldemort and is spying on Dumbledore, or that Snape is indeed working for Voldemort and is spying on Dumbledore. However this doesnt seem likely as he has saved Harry's life before now.
Sorry if this seems confusing i am a newbie to this board!


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Old July 19th, 2003, 5:56 pm
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Snape is working for Dumbledore and is spying on Voldemort. He's pretty tight with Lucius because he has to keep up a front. I think that if Snape was going against Dumbledore then Dumbledore would know. He trusts Snape fully so it shouldn't even be debated if Snape is trustworthy.


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Old July 19th, 2003, 6:03 pm
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I think after seven years Lucius Malfoy would have seen whether Snape was lying to him and other death eaters. However i am probably wrong. I also believe that severus is trustworthy, i just wanted to see if anyone had any ideas about this particular idea.


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Old July 19th, 2003, 6:07 pm
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Kindly note that there is a thread 'All about Snivellus Snape' already. This will probably be closed.


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Old July 19th, 2003, 6:09 pm
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I believe that Snape is being so nice to Draco and Lucius because Snape can spy on the Death Eaters through Lucius. There are plenty of clues for that in the book. Even though I really really hate Snape, I don't think he's evil.


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Old July 19th, 2003, 7:22 pm
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It's probably in the thread mentioned above, but I don't recall. To quickly answer your question, in GoF when Voldemort gets his new body and calls his followers, he goes around the circle and comments at the empty places. He says how one will never return, one is at Hogwarts and so on. He doesn't name them. Speculation is that Lucius Malfoy thinks Snape is the loyal one at Hogwarts. We know Voldemort was referring to Barty jr., but Malfoy probably does not and therefore still trusts Snape.

Also of note though is JKR saying in Albert Hall interview that we shouldn't trust Snape too much. Perhaps she just means stuff like when he stopped giving Harry occlumency lessons. We'll see!


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Old July 19th, 2003, 7:37 pm
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I think JKR just doesnt want us to think Snape is going to be sending Harry butterbear for Christmas. Snape can be trusted in my mind, after 5 years at Hogwarts, if Snape wanted Harry dead, Harry would be dead.


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Old July 19th, 2003, 7:54 pm
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I reckon Snape can be trusted, because Dumbledore trusts him.


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Old July 19th, 2003, 7:59 pm
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You know what, this is something is going to last for ages...Snape, good, evil...or both?!
As I read the sentence that braggy qouted from the book for the very first time, it came to my mind the idea of a double agent...And I guess it fits. Snape, under Dumbledore's orders, convinced Malfoy that he had never been with Dumbledore and his order, and he was just pretending to work for them...Then, he would give false/useless information to the death eaters and Voldemort so that they could believe him, while he was really doing a spiesjob.
Perhaps he gave Fudge the hint that Sturgies would be in the MoM, so he wouldn't blew his work...
er...does it sound likely?


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Old July 19th, 2003, 9:56 pm
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Though you gotta admit, it must be tiresome for DD to constantly having to defend Snape whenever ppl ask if he's really on their side, lord knows DD had to say he trust him atleast 2 times whenever he's in the presence of Harry.


 
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