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Old January 23rd, 2005, 2:33 am
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Yes, once again you're right!!! There's no way that DD could have seen his own death inside the Mirror. It would be future-reading instead of desire-telling. I have to start rereading the whole saga to fill in this gaps I'm making. Sorry
Don't be sorry! Just remember that's just my own opinion. There are millions out there just waiting to be heard!

You make some good points on Percy...But I don't think it will be a Weasley who dies in the sixth book. For some reason I keep thinking Hagrid because of the giants...but then again, that's a completely different thread!

Here's a question I'd asked earlier, but no one seemed to respond...

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This is just floating off the top of my head, but do you think Snape should have belonged to Slytherin? What if the Sorting Hat placed him in Gyrffindor, or Ravenclaw for example. Do you think that would have effected him for the better or for the worse? Do you think he may have pulled a stunt like Harry, asking the hat to place him in Slytherin instead of Gryffindor? I could see Snape having a chance of making Gryffindor considering all the brave things he has accomplished throughout the books as an adult. He must have had some inkling of what is easy and what is right when he was a child...

What do you think?


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 2:52 am
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I think he can be trusted, DD trust him and he's saved harry before..why would he do that if he was against them! and he stopped Quirrell from geting the stone the first time around too!...he just seems like if he cant cuz he's mean thats it


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 3:26 am
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I think that until he proves otherwise we have to trust Snape. I for one am watching with a leery eye. I only half trust him.


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 3:28 am
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I can't trust him. I just can't. My love for Sirius, and that fact that he didn't trust snape makes it impossible. Dumbledore is great, but Sirius would have trusted anyone if it ment harry's saftey, anyone accept snape...that makes me VERY leery


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 4:24 pm
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This is just floating off the top of my head, but do you think Snape should have belonged to Slytherin? What if the Sorting Hat placed him in Gyrffindor, or Ravenclaw for example. Do you think that would have effected him for the better or for the worse? Do you think he may have pulled a stunt like Harry, asking the hat to place him in Slytherin instead of Gryffindor? I could see Snape having a chance of making Gryffindor considering all the brave things he has accomplished throughout the books as an adult. He must have had some inkling of what is easy and what is right when he was a child...

What do you think?
I think Snape has attributes from all the houses, like probably a lot of people. You can say he is clever/studious(Ravenclaw), loyal/hard working(Hufflepuff) and brave(Gryffindor). At 11 ambition could have been his most promininent trait. I think if the sorting hat would have told him "Slytherin could help you to do great things.", little Severus would have said "Yes, please!!!"
The sorting hat was probably right to place him in Slytherin, if it has to sort, what it shouldn´t do as it said itself.

If he was placed in another house, I don´t think he would have ever become a DE. Remember he was hanging out with a gang of Slytherins, all of whom probably became DEs.
If he was placed in Gryffindor he would have been friends with you-know-who(I don´t mean the Dark Lord) - a very amusing thought. Then he would have joined the OotP earlier as he did anyway.


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 6:12 pm
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I trust Snape because DD trusts him.

DD trusts Lupin & Sirius so I can't say DD trusts the wrong people. That's why I'am compelled to trust Snape.

One more factor that contributed to my trusting Snape was recently when in the movie when werewolf(Lupin) tried to attack the Trio Snape stood before them and protected them leaving behind all his anger for Harry.


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Old January 23rd, 2005, 6:36 pm
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This is just floating off the top of my head, but do you think Snape should have belonged to Slytherin? What if the Sorting Hat placed him in Gyrffindor, or Ravenclaw for example. Do you think that would have effected him for the better or for the worse? Do you think he may have pulled a stunt like Harry, asking the hat to place him in Slytherin instead of Gryffindor? I could see Snape having a chance of making Gryffindor considering all the brave things he has accomplished throughout the books as an adult. He must have had some inkling of what is easy and what is right when he was a child...

What do you think?
You know, I'm not sure that equating Slytherin with the 'easy' side is exactly right. I can see your point. But at the same time I'm sure that there was an inherent challenge to belonging to any of the four houses for Snape (or anyone). I don't think there is one house that is a "skate through" house. Snape still had to prove himself in Slytherin. It appears in the scene we saw in the Pensive that he didn't necessarily have a lot of friends. We did hear from someone (I don't remember who) that Snape hung out with a bunch of DEs but I don't think they were pals you know? He would have had someone to hang out with after he had finished his OWLS. I mean the term was done, it was celebration time, everyone else was just hanging about except Snape. He was alone. And, no one came to his rescue other than Lilly when Sirius and James were tormenting him.
My point is, I don't hink that Slytherin was the easy choice for Snape, he still had difficulties. But I do see your point.


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Old January 24th, 2005, 10:29 pm
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I trust Snape because DD trusts him.

DD trusts Lupin & Sirius so I can't say DD trusts the wrong people. That's why I'am compelled to trust Snape.

One more factor that contributed to my trusting Snape was recently when in the movie when werewolf(Lupin) tried to attack the Trio Snape stood before them and protected them leaving behind all his anger for Harry.

I agree with you on the werewolf-attack part of your theory, I also thought it pictured Snape as brave and protective of the trio, and since JK Rowling is checking the movie characters on their credibility, it's save to assume it's something snape would do.
But there is something bothering me. A lot of people trust Snape because of dumbledore. In a way I do too, because, he'll have had snape checked out and all, and they obviously trust each other. But that just doesn't mean dumbledore is never wrong:
Quirrel had Voldemort on the back of his head,Lockhart (well, let's leave him, don't wanna talk about it ) Remus was ok, but still, he kept quite a secret(that sirius was a animagus) from dumbledore and he(dumbledore) didn't suspect the marauders were animagi.Moody wasn't even Moody and umbridge...was something he(DD again)couldn't avoid.
So what I'm saying is, Dumbledore is great, but that doesn't mean he knows Everything. Somehow, I think that the last chapters of the OTP wanted to point that out (besides telling about the prophecy of course)
I'm way off-topic......what can I say, I trust Snape because of his own behaviour, and maybe I'm wrong, but I hope not. But then I will still have the confort of knowing that Dumbledore made the same mistake


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Old January 25th, 2005, 6:28 am
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I think he can be trusted to do what is best for him =)


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Old January 25th, 2005, 8:38 am
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I am with those who are quite sure that Snape is still doing spy duty for Dumbledore, but I really think that Snape is quite enjoying it. JKRowling really makes me shiver when she says to keep an eye on Snape. She sounds an awful lot like Mad-Eye Moody. I think that Snape has a few tricks up his sleeve, and though he may turn out good in the end, I think that we are in for some dissapointment.


 
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