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Old July 5th, 2004, 8:03 pm
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I'm thinking K is going to be brought before V at some point, and he's going to give up Snape to save his own hide.
But what evidence could Karkaroff bring up for that? If Dumbledore vouching for Snape at Karkaroff's hearing, in front of all those wizards and witches, wasn't enough to make Voldemort think Snape deserved to be killed (and as we see Snape is still alive and kicking, and still in Lucius' good graces to boot), I don't think Karkaroff could add any additional proof to it now. Besides I don't think he's ever been told that Snape is now a member of the Order and spying on Voldemort again.

I'm still under the impression that Snape may not have been mentioned at all in the graveyard. We have been introduced to 4 ex-DEs in the course of GoF: Karkaroff, Bagman, Crouch Jr., and Snape. But there were only 3 missing in the graveyard.

Crouch Jr. has been uncovered as the "faithful one" by the end of GoF, and he couldn't go to the graveyard because he was on patrol around the maze. Karkaroff is as good as dead for ratting out Rookwood (who was working in the Department of Mysteries, prophecy and everything... it must have been quite a blow for Voldemort to lose such a strategically well-placed DE). And though it tends to be forgotten, Bagman was a DE as well. Even if it's true that he wasn't involved in any Dark activities ever since his trial, he was tried as a DE. Being acquitted doesn't erase Voldemort's Mark on his arm, and there's no reason for Voldemort not to expect him to arrive as well. And Bagman too fled at the end of GoF, apparently because of the goblins but conveniently at the same time as Karkaroff. But Bagman never ratted out anyone, he just claimed that he'd been too stupid to realize what he'd gotten himself into. So I tend to see him as the coward.

So - we know that Crouch wasn't there and why, we know that Karkaroff and Bagman fled and thus weren't there either. All three places of missing DEs are occupied. There's nothing to say that Snape as the fourth was not present in the rebirthing scene. I prefer to think that he was among those passed by silently by Voldemort, and witnessed Harry's battle with Voldemort. (There was ample time between Harry's and Cedric's disappearance and the Apparition of the first summoned DEs on the graveyard, and Moody's dragging Harry to his office and giving him his story would have taken some time too.)

And why would Voldemort accept Snape back? Because he doesn't think that Snape ever left him, in spite of Dumbledore's words at Karkaroff's hearing. I quite like the theory that Snape was originally sent to Hogwarts by Voldemort to spy on Dumbledore (whom Voldemort would have expected to vouch for Snape), but is actually spying the other way round, for Dumbledore on Voldemort. He's a double-agent, and each of the two sides believes him to be theirs.

As for Snape's true loyalties, I believe he's on Dumbledore's side. His nasty side is quite obvious: he resents Harry, he hates Sirius (and James) with a passion, and he bullies every student who happens to be anything but a Slytherin. It's his good side he's secretive about. He calls Harry back to Dumbledore's office in GoF, but apparently only to taunt him when he knows that Dumbledore must be near enough to hear Harry yell. He saves Neville from being choked in OotP, but covers it with an excuse about tedious paperwork. He understands Harry's hint about Padfoot and checks on him, but not without deflecting Umbridge's suspicion with a snarky comment about Harry drinking a Babbling Beverage. He keeps protecting Harry covertly, but he can't afford to be openly a "nice guy", because if the info got back to Lucius or Voldemort it would endanger his standing with them.


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Old July 5th, 2004, 8:49 pm
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if snape isnt spying on LV how did DD know LV was obsessed with the prophecy?


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Old July 5th, 2004, 9:00 pm
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I agree that Bagman is the one who left Voldemort's ranks forever, not Snape. Knowing that Snape is an accomplished Occlumens and Legilimens makes me think that he can hide his thoughts from Voldemort. Also, wasn't Dumbledore's penseive in Snape's? Since any thoughts he does not want Voldemort to see are in there, I doubt that Voldemort would know, unless a Death Eater knew, which I also doubt since Lucius and Draco Malfoy are still friendly with him. But can anyone answer this question: In a recent interview, Rowling said that many of the fan sites have guessed the one who left Voldemort forever, what is the most general agreement that all of these sites share because that could lead us to the answer to this question.



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Old July 6th, 2004, 3:13 am
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Everyone assumes that Snape is the one Voldy referred to as "one who has left me forever". They assume this because they know Snape is a spy, and because Karkaroff was afraid and therefore fits the definition of cowardly.

I think they are interchangable. Karkaroff betrayed the Death Eaters. He named names. Fortunately for the Death Eaters, most of the people he named were either dead or already captured, but he put Rookwood into Azkaban. There is absolutely no possible way that Karkaroff would have been welcomed back into the group after that. He was not loyal, he saved his own skin. Thus it could be interpreted that he left Voldemort's service forever.

The only evidence we have that Voldemort thinks he's left him forever is that we know Snape is a spy. There is no evidence to suggest that Voldemort knows. Now technically speaking, Voldemort should know that Snape is a professor under Dumbledore, and that would be highly suspicious. However, Lucius Malfoy is a friend of Snape's, and as Sirius put it, Snape was "Lucius' lap dog". Considering Lucius' standing with Voldemort, he would no doubt explain that Snape is no friend of Dumbledore's, and his allegiance remains to Voldemort as before. At the time of the cemetary, Voldemort could have interpreted Snape's absence as cowardice, both afraid to disapparate under Dumbledore's nose or to face Voldemort after becoming an employee of Dumbledore (meaning teaching not spying).

It would have been all too easy for Snape to cook up a lie to that as well. Since you cannot apparate or disapparate at Hogwarts, he clearly could not have joined them at the graveyard immediately. And he was under the eye of Dumbledore the whole time. When he left the hospital wing, it was no doubt to head immediately to Voldemort's side and explain as such.

But in that moment at the graveyard, it is every bit as likely that Voldemort was describing Snape as the cowardly one.
I agree with fool completely on this one.

Now, I want to put my own thoughts if Snape will be discovered.

OK, first of, we don't know that Snape is spying, but that is definitely what Harry thinks. And I think that Voldemort is going to find this out from Harry and their connection. After that, I think Voldemort is going to kill Snape (because I think that he is actually spying somehow). (I know this next part is kind of off topic, but I figured I throw it in there while I was typing.) And I think Harry will blame himself for Snape's death even though they've never gotten along.


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Old July 6th, 2004, 6:09 am
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Everyone assumes that Snape is the one Voldy referred to as "one who has left me forever". They assume this because they know Snape is a spy, and because Karkaroff was afraid and therefore fits the definition of cowardly.

I think they are interchangable. Karkaroff betrayed the Death Eaters. He named names. Fortunately for the Death Eaters, most of the people he named were either dead or already captured, but he put Rookwood into Azkaban. There is absolutely no possible way that Karkaroff would have been welcomed back into the group after that. He was not loyal, he saved his own skin. Thus it could be interpreted that he left Voldemort's service forever.

The only evidence we have that Voldemort thinks he's left him forever is that we know Snape is a spy. There is no evidence to suggest that Voldemort knows. Now technically speaking, Voldemort should know that Snape is a professor under Dumbledore, and that would be highly suspicious. However, Lucius Malfoy is a friend of Snape's, and as Sirius put it, Snape was "Lucius' lap dog". Considering Lucius' standing with Voldemort, he would no doubt explain that Snape is no friend of Dumbledore's, and his allegiance remains to Voldemort as before. At the time of the cemetary, Voldemort could have interpreted Snape's absence as cowardice, both afraid to disapparate under Dumbledore's nose or to face Voldemort after becoming an employee of Dumbledore (meaning teaching not spying).

It would have been all too easy for Snape to cook up a lie to that as well. Since you cannot apparate or disapparate at Hogwarts, he clearly could not have joined them at the graveyard immediately. And he was under the eye of Dumbledore the whole time. When he left the hospital wing, it was no doubt to head immediately to Voldemort's side and explain as such.

But in that moment at the graveyard, it is every bit as likely that Voldemort was describing Snape as the cowardly one.
Nuts. Ya took the words right outta my head.

That was pretty much exactly what I was thinking as well....to me, the cowardly DE could just as easily have been Snape to Voldemort. We, the readers, have no idea who Voldemort is talking about, but jump to conclusions due to what we know from the outside of the story. I remember the first time I read through that passage, I thought it was Karkaroff who was the DE who left forever, not Snape.

IMHO, Voldemort would almost certainly think Snape as being cowardly if he did not respond to the "call" right away, regardless of his post at the school. To Voldemort's way of thinking (at least how I interpret it) Snape should have come right away, the school is secondary to the fact that Voldemort is back! Hence, Voldemort thinks that Snape may be more interested in protecting his position in the school rather than responding to his return to flesh and blood.

Just my 2Ę...


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Old July 6th, 2004, 6:39 am
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Suppose Snape's using polyjuice potion to appear as Winky the house elf?
not to be rude but i think this ay be the worse post ever....#1 we all know that u can not use the polyjuice potion to be anything but human (hermione turning into a cat)
and #2 why on earth would LV want to deal with a house elf, especially one that works for dumbledore


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Old July 6th, 2004, 7:08 am
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Quick question... why dosnt anyone seem to think that the faithfull servant who returned is Snape? Now I'm not saying he's not a spy, but we are talking about Mr Smarmy here. What better way to appear as a spy then to be the most loyal and faithfull of allies?

Yes yes yes, I know everyone will point to Crouch Jr. and say he is the one who returned, and yes he did. But lets face it, Voldemorte never named names. If anything JKR has always had a nack for twisting things in a way we dont catch on to for a while.

Just a question. I honestly think Snape was probibly the one marked as cowardly... wich for some reason I see Voldemorte trying to kill him for that as it is. He dosnt strike me as the kind who likes cowardice.


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Old July 6th, 2004, 10:35 am
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ive only read the books a couple times so i mighta missed something ... but i dont think voldemort can consider snape a legit death eater after the death of harry ... good chance it was found out that someone tipped off the potters ... then at karakoffs meeting dumbeldore publically announced that snape turned spy . im doubting that every wizard (considering that they are all good in the first place) didnt let this slip. im sure most people - and definately death eaters - found out about this soon after the hearing.

snape might have disbanded the death eaters all together... but that doesnt make sense when u consider his popularity with evil people ... it also doesnt make sense when snape talks about how he does "important" things (first thing that came to mind was meetings with the deatheaters) ... also - i remember dumbledore saying something like "you know what u need to do" - so im going to say he is still with them

then from here i think snape is acting as a double agent/spy ... at the end of 4, voldemort says how he thinks _____ has left him forever .. and he will die - but i think that snape returned to voldemort ... took a lot of punishment ... and is now saying he is a spy for voldemort ... probably working out a plan to give voldemort semi-useless information in return for some more useful stuff ... and from here we dont know if he is actually with the order or with the deatheaters

* voldemort obviously knows snape is working with dumbledore, so voldemort knows that snape is acting for dumbledore/order (common sense) - in which case he probably finds it useful to him .. i also think that snape is the coward and karakoff has left forever ... just to keep us off guard cuz it doesnt really matter in my eyes



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Old July 6th, 2004, 10:42 am
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I have my doubts about what Voldemort actually knows. I mean yes he can tell when most people are lying. But Snape is highly excelled in Legillamancy. She wouldn't have brought that up for nothing. I mean, yes Harry needed Occlumency lessons...but I think there was something deeper than that. I could be wrong, and I'm used to that, but I just have a hunch.


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Old July 6th, 2004, 10:44 am
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then at karakoffs meeting dumbeldore publically announced that snape turned spy . im doubting that every wizard (considering that they are all good in the first place) didnt let this slip. im sure most people - and definately death eaters - found out about this soon after the hearing.

snape might have disbanded the death eaters all together... but that doesnt make sense when u consider his popularity with evil people
Well a lot of the death eaters were saying that they were under Voldemort's control and that he was making them do things that they didnít want to. So Snape wasnít the only one that denied he was a servant of Voldemort at the trails other than the Lestranges, at least Bellatrix who stayed to her faith.


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Old July 6th, 2004, 3:58 pm
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I know probably 500000000 people hav already said this, but being that Snape is pretty good at Occlumency, at least Voldemort would not know directly that he was spying, he could quite likely (in theory) lie about it without being noticed.
Sorry, but I didn't have time to read the other posts.


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Old July 6th, 2004, 4:46 pm
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I think Snape could be persuaded to go back to the dark side. His hatred for James and Harry could end up being so great that he betrays the Order and Dumbledore. Also, I think I read somewhere recently that JKR said to "keep an eye on old Severus Snape" so who knows!?!... he could end up back on the dark side. I think he is a spy for the order at this point in the story and is able to hide it from Voldemort because of his Occlumency, but maybe not for long... any thoughts?

(Sorry if this has already been brought up, I didn't read all the posts)


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Old July 7th, 2004, 7:42 pm
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I think that there's more of reason for the Order not letting the students know more about what they're up to. Beside their work being down right dangerous I think it has to do with the fact that teenagers are blabber mouths and they will talk eventually at one point or another.

So.....Snape's practically let everyone know. He didn't deny it to Harry that he was spying instead he seemed kind of pleased that someone actually came out and said it. I doubt he was just pleased at Harry's brilliance at discovering what he's been up to. at Every one at Karakaroffs trial find out that Snape was spying. Voldemort has got to know by know. Too many people know about Snape for people like Lucius not to know. It's just not realistic.


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Old July 7th, 2004, 7:45 pm
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So.....Snape's practically let everyone know. He didn't deny it to Harry that he was spying instead he seemed kind of pleased that someone actually came out and said it. I doubt he was just pleased at Harry's brilliance at discovering what he's been up to.
I think he was pleased because he was finally getting recognition, even if it was from "famous Harry Potter." That seems to be a major sore spot with Snape -- the fact that he never gets, and in some cases really can't, get any recognition for the work he's done for the Order. He's risked his life on more than one occasion for the good of wizard-kind, and has gotten no recognition for it whatsoever.

As for whether or not Voldemort knows...I don't see how he could *not* know by now, either. That's why I was kind of surprised at the assertion in OotP that he's still spying. I had thought at the end of GoF that he was the "one who has left us forever" and "will be killed."


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Old July 17th, 2004, 2:57 am
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Snape: Voldemort's Pawn?

Here's my theory:

It did seem quite easy for Harry to get into Snape's mind with just a simple shield charm, so maybe Snape isn't as good at occlumency as he and everyone else think he is.

In "The Goblet of Fire" Voldemort says to an empty space among the Death Eaters, "And here we have six missing Death Eaters...One, who I believe has left me forever...he will be killed, of course." (651) Snape can't fit the description of any of the other missing Death Eaters.

So...What if Voldemort has already penetrated Snape's mind, found that he is a spy for Dumbledore, and decided to use that fact to feed Dumbledore false information? It would make sense. Voldemort hasn't killed him or had him killed already in case he is needed. It would also explain why Snape has not been able to give Dumbledore bigger tips, like Lucius Malfoy, wouldn't he have told Snape about Kreature and the plot to get Harry to the Department of Mysteries and have known that Harry would especially because he was aware of the fact that Harry was not doing well in Occlumency and that his lessons had ceased?

Perhaps Snape actually did join Dumbledore and the fight against Voldemort, but is completely unaware that he may be a part of Voldemort's future plans.

Of course there could be an explanation for this, but what do you think?


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Sounds interesting.... But there are SO MANY Snape theories it's almost a little unbearable (not meaning you of course )

Anyway, you may have a point. And like JKR said, don't feel too sorry for him. I do believe that he IS on the good side. But maybe also Dumbledore suspects(?) SO maybe that's why DD won't let him be DADA teacher(?)

*There are SO MANY un-anwerable questions about Snape*


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Perhaps Snape actually did join Dumbledore and the fight against Voldemort, but is completely unaware that he may be a part of Voldemort's future plans.
Given all that we know about Snape there's enough evidence to show that maybe Voldemort could be sing Snape against himself. But remember what Sirius said? About how you don't just turn in your badge to Voldemort and call it quits? How did Snape manange to switch sides at the height of Voldemort's power and live? The immediate conclusion that he must still ebe working as a DE for Voldemort while helping Dumbledore on the sly becasue how else could Snape have survived Voldemort's reign unless Voldemort has other plans for him?


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Or Snape is simply as excellent an occlumenist/leginemist as he's been described and has been able to hide his true thoughts from
Voldemort.
Voldemort is not infallible. For one thing he's incrediably forgetful. Mother's love, healing nature of phoenix tears etc...
didn't have a clue why those wands did't work against each other
or even what was happening.
He also reminds me of that Carly Simon song "Your so Vain ...
you probably think this song is about you..." I honestly don't think he'd believe one of his top death eaters would actually turn on him or successfully spy on him. I suspect Voldemort thinks he 's just too smart for that.
Could someone post where this quote about not feeling sorry for Snape is. I know she said we shouldn't think him too nice, that we should keep an eye on him (like anyone wouldn't) etc but I don't remember this particular quote from Rowling.
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Old July 17th, 2004, 3:50 am
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Here's my theory:

It did seem quite easy for Harry to get into Snape's mind with just a simple shield charm, so maybe Snape isn't as good at occlumency as he and everyone else think he is.

In "The Goblet of Fire" Voldemort says to an empty space among the Death Eaters, "And here we have six missing Death Eaters...One, who I believe has left me forever...he will be killed, of course." (651) Snape can't fit the description of any of the other missing Death Eaters.

So...What if Voldemort has already penetrated Snape's mind, found that he is a spy for Dumbledore, and decided to use that fact to feed Dumbledore false information? It would make sense. Voldemort hasn't killed him or had him killed already in case he is needed. It would also explain why Snape has not been able to give Dumbledore bigger tips, like Lucius Malfoy, wouldn't he have told Snape about Kreature and the plot to get Harry to the Department of Mysteries and have known that Harry would especially because he was aware of the fact that Harry was not doing well in Occlumency and that his lessons had ceased?

Perhaps Snape actually did join Dumbledore and the fight against Voldemort, but is completely unaware that he may be a part of Voldemort's future plans.

Of course there could be an explanation for this, but what do you think?
im really responding to the bolded section, theres no evidence that Snape has been spying yet for DD on LV, if LV even had the slightest suspision that snape was a spy i dont think he would tell him about kreacher


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Old July 17th, 2004, 4:08 am
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It would also explain why Snape has not been able to give Dumbledore bigger tips, like Lucius Malfoy, wouldn't he have told Snape about Kreature and the plot to get Harry to the Department of Mysteries and have known that Harry would especially because he was aware of the fact that Harry was not doing well in Occlumency and that his lessons had ceased?
Lucius probably wouldn't have told Snape about the plan. First of all he wouldn't be able to contact him that quickley. They didn't know when it would be that Harry would see the vision and be able to get to the MoM and by the time they found out it would have been too hard for them to contact Snape in time. An owl would probably take a day or so depending on where it was sent from and with floo powder you run the risk of being seen by someone in Snape's office at the time, or by whoever was watching the fireplaces from the MoM.
And secondly there would be nothing that Snape could do to help. At the time he would have been stuck at Hogwarts and it probably would have been a little wierd if one of the teachers goes missing for a few hours.


 
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