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Old April 30th, 2004, 10:46 pm
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I do think that something is going to happen to the Grangers. If not in the 6th book then the 7th. Because how is it possible for Voldemort not to do something about Hermione's parents. He has to know by now that Hermione is one of Harry's best friends which in turn will make him need to attack the Grangers. And I do think that's what is going to cause him to have to leave.


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Old April 30th, 2004, 11:28 pm
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He will probably get out from some chaotic event again which leaves the Dursley's angry at him just like the other books I think. I mean they've always been mad at him for something besides just being there.

-Book 1: The whole Hadrig incident and how that he was going to start to learn magic (well it didn't make him have to leave them right away and not come back until next summer though true, but they were still mad about it and how they failed to get rid of the magic in him).
-Book 2: The Dobby incident and how he escaped in the car
-Book 3: Losing control and blowing up his aunt
-Book 4: What happened when leaving for the Quiddich tournament with Fred and George's trick
-Book 5: The dementor attack which Dudley blamed on him and made them start to try to throw Harry out.

Part of my guess for book 6 is that Harry is going to be more careful this time from knowing how that he's there to be protected, so he probably won't be outside much. I'd say that losing control and doing magic without wanting to might cause it this time. Another reason could be trouble with the guard and protecting Harry (though I doubt that would happen).


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Old April 30th, 2004, 11:50 pm
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In my opinion, Harry isn't exactly desperate to stay at Privet Drive. I think he would find any reason to leave Privet Drive as soon as possible.


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Old May 1st, 2004, 12:13 am
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JKR did say it will be Harry's shortest stay at Privet Drive. I'm thinking he will just leave on his own. Being that he will be 15 going on 16. I think he will go to Sirius house to mourn and then go to Ron's.


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Old May 1st, 2004, 12:28 am
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I think the Dursley's must surely endure Harry having Ron and/or hermoine come for a visit. Otherwise the order would "attack them and this also allows for the usually chaos. Also I think that Petunia must die so that the place is no longer safe for Harry and the situation becomes more desperate. So while the boys are upstairs laughing at the Dursley's attitudes maybe a death eater or Vol himself shows up and Harry and Ron/Hermoine fight, and get away but Petunia is killed off by accident leaading to Voldemorts better understanding of Harry's Power so far. Anyway, laugh, enjoy, or comment. All I truly want to know is when the heck the book is coming out already, I'm dying to know what happens.


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Old May 1st, 2004, 2:49 pm
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Harry comes of age and leaves the Dursleys of his own free will, moves to Grimmauld place (as presumably Harry will be his heir).....manages to get rid of that nasty picture of Mrs Black and kretcher.


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Old May 1st, 2004, 4:48 pm
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Well Rowling has basially said that there was going to be a full out war in the magical world so he might not be entirely safe at the Dursley's. His mother's love is protecting him at the Dursley's and it's only because of Petunia that Harry didn't run off that night from Privet Drive. Vernon has become aware to the dangers of having Harry as a surrogate son and he's not going to want someone around who may or may not get them all killed. Considering how much Vernon hates Harry I don't really think he's truly safe there. The MoM sent dementors to his house last year but seeing how there's a war and Voldemort is after him and the prophecy do you really think he'd be safest there? Even with his mother's protection it won't make him immune to all the things going on around him and he won't be entirely safe there for long.

As for Petunia now that I'm on her that woman is going to need to shape up and grow a spine becasue this is not the time for her to persist with her old grudge against Lily and her world. Petunia knows who Voldemort is and she has an understanding of what that means. Whether Harry wants to admit it or not his life depends on this woman and she needs to stop being so selfish and start getting ready for what's coming.


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Old May 13th, 2004, 11:21 pm
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This just popped into my head, I think we could be looking at this the wrong way, maybe Harry won't be "driven" from Privet Drive, maybe he'll be taken either by Dumbledore or someone else

I'd like Dumbledore to take him, turn up at the house (much to the chagrin of the Dursley's) but forcing Petunia to admit just how much she knows. Harry goes with Dumbledore to either
*Godric's Hollow
*Hogwort's where he explores the Chamber of Secrets with DD ~ nice symmetry to do so in book6
*elsewhere

Maybe a flight of fancy but if Harry's turning of age and decides to leave Privet Drive isn't it preferable that he's taken so people know where he is


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Old May 26th, 2004, 2:02 pm
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3. Something pretty nasty/scary is going to happen to Harry. The kind of thing that, if you knew it was coming at you, you would probably go into hiding. Worse than the nasty scary stuff he has already faced up to? Dude...
I get the feeling that this guy is right and most likely Harry is in for a rough ride. Not only is Voldermot back he wants to kill him and will kill anyone close enough to him if it means accomplishing his means. I know that if I was Harry I'd probably end up doing one of several things:
-Locking myself in my own Gringotts vault. Technically only a Gringotts goblin can come get you out so it's not like anyone would be able to come and find you. It would probably be the safest place to hide
-Use my invisibilty cloak and attach my trunk to a broom stick. I'd have lit out of there so fast you wouldn't have had to time to as, who's your daddy.
-Kill myself and go live with myrtle in her toilet. Hey, being a ghost wouldn't be so bad...I mean it's not like they can kill you again or anything. Better I kill myself than let that sadistic Bellatrix get her paws on me first


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Old May 26th, 2004, 5:04 pm
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There's another thread about how book 2 and book 5 are similiar, and Mutant for Hire came up with a theory that the books tend to go on a 3 book cycle for certain themes/patterns. For instance, in 1 and 4 the DADA are working directly for Voldemort, and in 2 and 5 they are people we don't like, and who turn out to be worse than we thought at the end, but as far as we know not working for Voldemort.

I think the manner in which Harry leaves 4 Privet Drive may mirror this theme.

1 and 4 (and 7?): Harry leaves Privet drive with the Dursley's (unwilling) consent.

2 and 5: Harry is rescued from Privet Drive without the consent of the Dursleys.

3 (and 6?): Harry runs away from privet drive.

This just happens to be a theory I like, Mutant for Hire is pretty convincing on the thread.

As to what would drive Harry away, I think it would have to be something pretty big, such as a direct attack on the house (I think he'd be unlikely to heed anymore dreams he had about people being attacked) or a huge argument (with the Dursleys?) that makes him so angry he runs away without thinking ablout the consequences.


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Old May 26th, 2004, 5:55 pm
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I think that although an attack on Hermione's family would be an interesting idea, perhaps Voldemort's coming back has broken the charm put on Harry by his mother.

What if Voldemort tried to attack Harry at Privet Drive? After all, he has the strength to touch him now. I think he might send a DE to do it...perhaps then, Petunia will find out that she has magical powers of her own. I believe somewhere, JKR did say that someone was going to find out that they had powers later on in life, which is not usual for the wizarding world.

I just don't think an attack on the Grangers would be enough to bring Harry out. Either someone will attack Privet Drive, I think, or the Order members will come and get him. In either way, I think with the death of Sirius, he wouldn't want to leave on his own, something is going to make him leave.

BTW, I think he'll do GREAT on his DDA OWLS! I could possibly see him becoming an Auror.


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Old May 27th, 2004, 12:48 am
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well, now that the wizarding world knows that LV is back maybe he will return to his murderous ways and go on a killing spree. The muggles will be told and the fears harry had last summer will be confirmed.

Maybe dumbledore will realise that harry is safer if he stays with him, so that he can keep an eye on him, especially since harry's blood protection now resides in LV veins too....ohhhh i wish. i would love to see where dumbledore lived.


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Old May 27th, 2004, 2:30 am
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I'm thinking that with Voldemort back in action, Harry is going to be needed in the wizarding community during the summer, which will be the reason for his abbreviated stay at #4 Privet Drive. I'm hoping that the book doesn't start out with something too terribly tragic, but after the end of OotP, we can't really count on the safety of anyone!!!


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Old May 27th, 2004, 3:03 am
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well this is just my theory ok? remember JKR did mention in the World Book Day chat that there will be new minister of magic? Then maybe there will be a case against Fudge because he didn't beleived at first that Lord voldemort is back and that will throw him out of his position and Harry will stand as a witness against him for he's the one who witnessed the return of Lord Voldemort. So maybe that will be the reason that might drive Harry out Privet Drive early... just a theory ok?


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Old May 27th, 2004, 3:29 am
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Now that Sirius is dead, I think that Harry will be making a trip to his funeral, given wizards have them, and then Harry will likely visit whatever home he inherits from Sirius, if Sirius owns one.

I think that HArry will still be at the Dursley's but that he will be attacked by Voldemort who has since learnt how to use the protection of Harry's mother that he has in his blood. The ORder will realize that HArry is no longer safe under Petunia's eye, and so they will have to keep him in strict hiding elsewhere.


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Old May 27th, 2004, 3:34 am
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These are the things JKR says will occur...
There will be a new minister of Magic...If you open the section of her website with the animated ads at the bottom several times, you get different ads including one which has Fudge being run out of office...
Muggles will notice odd things as the war gets going. We will probably see this while Harry is with the Dursleys...
Harry hasn't used magic on Dudley YET! Someone late in life (Petunia?) manages to do magic.Dudleys Dementor fears are explained...All these things may happen in books 6 or 7, but suggest a crisis on Privet Drive...
Harry gets a new pet, and odds are it will be Buckbeak. If he also gets 12 Grimmauld place, then it is now home, and he could live there. Since Lupin is residing there, not to mention yhe other members of the Order, Dumbledore would probably deem it safe, and no more Dursleys...Besides, if Uncle Vernon doesn't like owls, we cannot expect a hippogriff would be welcome...
Throw into this the Mark Evans plot twist. Will he interact with Harry or Dudley? Maybe his sorting will be a surprise.



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Old June 12th, 2004, 8:25 am
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I've been wondering since I've read this thread, if, by some twisted fate, Petunia is killed, then wouldn't Harry have protection still with Dudley? He is, afterall, directly related to Petunia, however many Vernon-esque qualities he possesses.

Or perhaps there's something Dumbledore explains in the end that I've forgottten.

I don't believe that Harry's home is where ever he shifts his views as home to be. If it were that case, Voldemort could have easily murdered him at Privet Drive any time after his rebirth, but couldn't touch a hair on his head at Hogwarts. If it's a combination of the two, however, Harry could be harmed (but not killed, I suppose) in either place.

Hmm. This change of perspective is interesting. I've always thought that the initial factor in Vernon's hatred of magic was all the horrid things that Petunia has said about her sister and the magical world in general (warped, of course, by her skewed perspective and jealously towards Lily), and he took Petunia's views as unmitigated truth, being as disapproving as he is of imagination and such.

Anyway, I like the idea of Harry being taken from Privet Drive for Sirius's funeral (by Dumbledore personally of course ), and then somehow he ends up visiting the gravesite of James and Lily.

Why would Harry want Grimmauld Place? Sirius would have probably left the estate to Dumbledore.



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Old June 12th, 2004, 4:59 pm
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Lily's Blood in Dudley?

Something I haven't seen anyone talk about before... we know Harry is safe because he has a home with someone who shared Lily's blood. That's Petunia, Lily's sister. But Dudley is Petunia's son... he also shares Lily's blood. I wonder if JKR will make that part of the plot somehow.


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Old June 12th, 2004, 5:11 pm
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I don't think anything will. Hopefully, this summer, Petunia won't be so hard on Harry.


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Old June 13th, 2004, 1:54 am
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I think Harry may find himself actually slighly reassured to be at Privet Drive now knowing what he does - maybe he wont resent it so much knowing he is here to be kept safe so I think this time he won't be driven out ... but brought out when one or the Order come to collect him because of the important things happening in the wizarding world. And I also see a nice quiet chat with Petunia, a sort of understanding between them that has never existed before ...


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