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Old April 21st, 2003, 7:30 pm
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That's exactly why it's my theory. Voldemort will probably suspect McGonagall or:bow: Dumbledore :bow: to be the secret keeper, not Snape.


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Old April 23rd, 2003, 1:31 am
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Or could Filch be a secret keeper?


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Old April 23rd, 2003, 3:02 am
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I just re-read the part where Dumbley~dorr asks Snape to do his task. It seems like it's going to be the same thing that he did during Voldie's reign. This is what Dumbledore said...(Goblet of Fire, American paperback, page 713)-

'"Severus," said Dumbledore, turning to Snape, "you know what I must ask you to do. If you are ready...if you are prepared..."
"I am," said Snape.
He looked slightly paler than usual, and his cold, black eyes glittered strangley.

I think Dumbledore just asked Snape to do what he did while Voldie was in power. We think it was spying (or know can't remember where it is that Dumbles says that Snape did something at a great risk to himself) But what if it was something else...


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Old April 23rd, 2003, 4:01 am
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Or could Filch be a secret keeper?
Filch is a minor figure in the politics game. I don't believe dumbledore would name him secret keeper of harry.


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Old April 23rd, 2003, 7:57 am
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What does politics have to do with him being a secret keeper?
The fact that no one would believe he was one could be the perfect reason to choose him to be one.
I'm not saying he would be my choice, just that the least likely person could be the safest to choose.


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Old April 23rd, 2003, 7:58 am
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That's interesting reasoning Barbara.
That's what landed Sirius into trouble with Peter so let's hope they don't make the same mistake with Filch.


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Old May 9th, 2003, 3:14 am
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Obviously, the choosing of a secret-keeper isn't a minor decision.
All factors have to be taken into consideration.
Your closest friends may come to mind first, but for that reason are they really a good choice?
They would be a little obvious.
They would also then be the obvious first targets of anyone trying to destroy your secret-keeper.


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Old May 9th, 2003, 3:20 am
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Exactly. They couldn't pick someone obvious because Voldemort could kill them leaving them without protection.


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Old May 9th, 2003, 6:12 am
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I just re-read the part where Dumbley~dorr asks Snape to do his task. It seems like it's going to be the same thing that he did during Voldie's reign. This is what Dumbledore said...(Goblet of Fire, American paperback, page 713)-

'"Severus," said Dumbledore, turning to Snape, "you know what I must ask you to do. If you are ready...if you are prepared..."
"I am," said Snape.
He looked slightly paler than usual, and his cold, black eyes glittered strangley.

I think Dumbledore just asked Snape to do what he did while Voldie was in power. We think it was spying (or know can't remember where it is that Dumbles says that Snape did something at a great risk to himself) But what if it was something else...
At this point it seems that spying for Dumbledore is about the most dangerous thing he could do, it is also the only logical thing for him to do that springs to mind. He obviously would have to do it in disguise to have any hope of success, or survival.


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Old May 9th, 2003, 8:51 pm
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Uhm, just a thought..."The one who has left forever" might not be Snape but Lily Potter. It's just a theory.

Snape is not a vampire and he's not evil! (Someone else pointed this out...thanks!)

He's just mis-understood!
*wishing june 21st would come a little faster!!!!*


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Old May 10th, 2003, 12:12 am
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Uhm, just a thought..."The one who has left forever" might not be Snape but Lily Potter. It's just a theory.

Snape is not a vampire and he's not evil! (Someone else pointed this out...thanks!)

He's just mis-understood!
*wishing june 21st would come a little faster!!!!*
I don't think it is very likely to be Lilly Potter, seeing as how she is dead and has been since Harry was one year old.


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Old May 20th, 2003, 8:39 pm
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I was thinking. Remember at the end of GoF when Voldie is talking to the Death Eaters about those who are missing. He said here are 6 missing death eaters. Three in Azkaban, my faithful servant at Hogwarts, one who is too scared to return (whom I think is Karkaroff) and one who I fear has left us forever. He will be killed! When I read that I was sure he was talking about Snape. Old Voldie knows that Snape has left him. He is not stupid enough to take him back. I just don't see that happening. Besides, what happened at the trials where Dumbledore said Snape was a spy for the good side. There were dark witches and wizards there too. They would definitely let Voldie know about this.

Snapes mission (though i don't know what) is something else. Something I think is far more dangerous.


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Old May 20th, 2003, 11:24 pm
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Snapes mission (though i don't know what) is something else. Something I think is far more dangerous.
I agree with Franke. I've just reread GoF and that caught my attention and the first person that came to mind was Snape. Who else? Ludo Bagman?:??: Maybe. But I agree, it has to be something dangerous, it did say that he seemed palerer. Cheers!:clappy:


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Old May 20th, 2003, 11:42 pm
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When I read that part that Frankie quoted, I got the sense of skeptisism. Almost as if Voldemort wasn't sure whether Snape had left him or not. This leads me to think that Dumbledore and Snape have obviously got a huge plan that is very complicated, complicated enough to where it even makes voldemort unsure. This in turn, would naturally say that where ever Snape goes on his "mission", it is very dangerous because not only do all the death eaters know about him, but voldemort himself has snape on his hitlist. However, this cloudiness that surrounds us about whether Snape is on the Good side or the Bad also surrounds Voldemort, which could very possible be the weakpoint that Dumbledore and Snape are going to exploit in Snape's mission.....

All this talking of Snape has made me think of this question: Why did Snape quit in the first place? I don't know if this has been discussed already or it was in the books but I was just wondering....


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Old May 21st, 2003, 4:13 am
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It has been dicussed many times, primarily because it is one of the mysteries about Snape that many of us want to know.


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Old May 21st, 2003, 5:26 am
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I think Snape went off to retrieve the OOTP and bring it back to Hogwarts. Becuase I for one think that the OOTP is not a group but something Dangerous or even good that Voldemort wishes to destroy or use. it may even be part of the reason why Voldemort wants Potter dead.



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Old May 21st, 2003, 7:47 pm
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There are a lot of really interesting theories here, but there are some problems with almost all of them.

Snape usinf polyjuice potion to be Crouch is almost impossible- mainly because Dumbledore said "Severus, you know what I must ask you to do. If you are ready. If you are prepared."-- Well, that implies it was something that he had done in the past. How could Snape possibly know from that comment that his job was to take on Crouch's appearance with polyjuice potion? I really interesting idea, but almost impossible that it was his assignment.

I don't recall Voldie ever finding out that Snape was a spy. Nor did the death eaters know. Only Karkaroff found out, but when they catch him, him may spill his guts like before and put Snape in danger. Voldie did say that "one too cowardly to return... one whom I believe has left me forever" and one would assume he meant Karkaroff and Snape, however we have been taught time and time again that what JK makes us think is usually a red herring. I believe this was a red herring too.

Logically, the only thing Snape could have known he had to do was spy, so logically he would have to enter that position again. Unfortunately, we have also been taught that logic is not even a sufficient defense against the cunning of JK Rowling......


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Old May 21st, 2003, 9:24 pm
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I think snape will take a polyjuice potion to be Barty Crouch. Voldemort doesnt no hes dead and maybe snape will spy. Just a thoery.


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Old May 21st, 2003, 10:01 pm
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I think snape will take a polyjuice potion to be Barty Crouch. Voldemort doesnt no hes dead and maybe snape will spy. Just a thoery.
Actually Crouch Jr is not dead, his soul has been sucked out, which in the book is described as worse than dead. I wouldn't be suprised to see Snape polyjuice into him. That would have some sirius implications though with Jr still alive. Where will they keep him? What functioning level could he have. That could be some sirius issues to deal with.


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Old May 21st, 2003, 10:07 pm
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maybe they will keep crouch in a locked room and use the truth potion to help snape with the quest.


 
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